ill be striaght up honest, i dont really give a flying **** as long as this goes away. ive heard this a million times. gyno's made me wanna end it dude, id rather get rid of gyno and have some sorta issue than live depressed
He is taking raloxifene already, you do realize that right? If I were him I would look into andractim and see what the deal is with it. You may very well be correct. My thoughts were the way it would be used would be applied to the site at a very low amount trying to localize the effect of the gel rather than have it be a systemic effect. I will admit I do not know this for sure. Things that should be looked into.
Dude ive been there i get. I am 18 myself. My issue wasn't gyno tho. But screwing up your hormones can **** you up for life!! You could get rebound gyno and actually make it worse along with becoming sterile and so much more. If ralox and iodine isn't gonna work adding some topical dht ISN'T going to make a difference. The ONLY other you might want to add is some prolactin control like ldopa or maca or a lot stronger with some serious side parmi
studies that were done included teenagers, no side effects were seen at all with ralox. post some studies or logs to back up what your saying here dude
Im not talking about ralox.
Stop with the prolactin nonsense. Thats not the avenue to pursue when it comes to gyno.
Yes that's is true but he is 18 and should not mess with DHT which is a hormone. Ralox is fine with studies done in teenagers.
You would have to look online. ADC may even have it dont know.
It all depends on how the gel is used, at what dose etc. As I said in a few posts. If it is used at a low dose and the effects can be primarily localized it may be ok for him to use. If not you are correct he prob shouldnt use it. If it is used as suspect it would actually be very good combo with ralox, even for him.
i wont until i can find some solid evidence to back it up, ill look into it.
Maybe so but i would see if ralox and iodine works first.
where would i buy the iodine? is it just the usual stuff the use pre op in surgery?
I have no idea. Ill look into it. Although when purchasing the iodine, if you do, make sure its in an alcohol solution not water. It absorbs make better when in an alcohol solution.
I dont know about iodine for this purpose. I would suspect that it would honestly only work if there is hypothyroidism involved as part of the cause of the gyno. If not, much like with most supplements, if there isnt a deficiency it wont do anything.
will post up what i find
Okay, stop giving out shi+ information. 95% are not deficient in Iodine. Basically no one in the developed world is. Also do not start supplementing with Iodine because it will open up a whole other can of worms of health issues. SRZ.
if you would read carefully what i wrote, i said "allegedly". i didnt say it was a fact, no offensive but read the gdamn post before you get all butthurt. im going to look into it before i pick some up. also please for the love of god if you say something like that, back it up. if there are health issues associated with it, link some articles or studies. but to continue adding in unback claims is pointless
Cool story bro.
I'm yet to find a person who actually got any adverse effects from dosing or even over dosing on iodine
The only thing i have ever heard of that was an "adverse effect" was elevated body temp.
Right, i'm betting that with following the rec dosage someone would be perfectly fine. i gotta pick up a good multi
For treating gyno oral isnt going to do much. Get topical IF your only purpose is treating gyno.
what did OP in bodybuildingcom thread do? he noticed all those changes
INSANELY high doses of oral. But we are talking about over 100x what normal dosages are. He took 12.5mgs 3x a day when recommended is 125mcgs a day.
Have you tried their Letrozole? It worked wonders for mine.
letro is sketch, that route would make me nervous as a teen, idk bout him
the person i quoted R1187 says that ralox isn't working at all for him , so the logical next step would be Letrozole.
No it would not be. If raloxifene did nothing for his gyno his option is surgery. He shouldnt even bother wasting his time with letro, it will not work. If raloxifene, which is proven more effective that letrozole for treating gyno didnt work, letro will not. It would be an unpleasant, unhealthy waste of his time. Treating/reversing gyno is a difficult proposition , many times surgery is the only option that will work. That is the case when raloxifene does nothing for the gyno.
i'm not trying to argue with you, but i personally and people i know have ridden themselves of gyno with letro. yes you shut down your estrogen for a little while, and then you return to normal and you move on with your life, thankful and a little wiser and you then tend to be more vigilant with your anastozole/arimidex on your future cycles. imo surgery is the last option you should take and only if nothing else works. and fyi i'm talking about a full grown adult male not a teenager.
No I do not really wish to argue. My point is this, while some may have had success with letro they also would have had the same success with raloxifene and it would have been a much more pleasant and healthy experience. If however, they tried raloxifene and it didnt work, letro definitely will not work. Raloxifene is more effective drug for treating gyno than letro so it wouldnt make sense to try letro AFTER trying raloxifene.
Huh I would have thought you would have said that earlier on, that you tried ralox and it didnt work then you tried letro and it did. While there are def interdependent differences in a case like this it is very uncommon that that would be the case (ralox not working then letro working). Like so uncommon I have a hard time believing there are several people that can honestly say this but hey whatever. If he wishes to try Letro he certainly can. Personally, based on what I know to be true I do not thin that is the route I would go at all but certainly to each his own.
Yea to an extent. ChocolateClen he knows alot about this topic through personal experimenting.
My experimenting hasn't gone too well but yeah I know a bit.
What sides could he suffer from using this medication????
Would armedix or nolvadex work?
Can you please refresh my memory what we were discussing? This thread is from 2 years ago.
Yes sir. He's using a medication to get rid of his gyno. Nor I know about nolvadex and arimidex
Raloxifene is better for reversing gyno. Arimidex is an aromatase inhibitor, and nolvadex is a SERM. Raloxifene is a SERM as well but has a higher affinity for the receptors in your breast tissue, thus more effective for reversing gynecomastia.
Nothing I tried worked for me, dont waste time, just get the surgery. Maybe meds work for others, guess its worth the try being as cheap as they are.
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