Any cahnce of Nutra doing a PLCAR/LCLT powder? I love RPN's-but we wont be seeing those in again or atleast for a while I think
This is pretty much a rock bottom price for this product given the cost of the raw material. His markup on this is minimal, unless he's buying huge amounts. To be honest, we could beat the price, but doing so would not really be worth it as we'd have to sink a huge amount of $ into inventory.It's $20 for 67.5g at Primordial....
This is pretty much a rock bottom price for this product given the cost of the raw material. His markup on this is minimal, unless he's buying huge amounts. To be honest, we could beat the price, but doing so would not really be worth it as we'd have to sink a huge amount of $ into inventory.
Why not look into price matching and offering a larger quantity; your margin will be slightly larger at a higher quantity anyways. Plus, if people are willing to pay for caps, you can add a few more % there making it more viable.This is pretty much a rock bottom price for this product given the cost of the raw material. His markup on this is minimal, unless he's buying huge amounts. To be honest, we could beat the price, but doing so would not really be worth it as we'd have to sink a huge amount of $ into inventory.
Great new Custom, thanks for listening to all of our nagging requests for this. Now, don't let us down!:006:We're trying to see how we can do it the NP way.
So relax meathead, it makes no sense for nutra to sell this stuff if they can't beat pp's price. Sounds pretty logical to me
Many customers like a one-stop website. I know I do. I got online and headed over to Nutra to look for some GPLC after reading about it in a recent MD magazine and was disappointed that my one-stop web store did not carry it. I got on here and found this thread. Now I'm headed over to PP for some, and if they also carry the other supplements that I need to refill on, I will also be ordering from there. One stop, one cart to pay attention to, one single payment, one package to keep track of through the shipping process and one package to deal with at the door.To be honest, we could beat the price, but doing so would not really be worth it as we'd have to sink a huge amount of $ into inventory.
I have not doubt NutraPlanet understands the "big picture" as well as anyone else. The wide variety of sales they do is testimony to this. Yet, NutraPlanet must correctly scrutinize customer wishes to be able to assess their commercial viability, as well as not only the required initial investment, but also the inventory exposure. Standard investment analysis.Nutra needs to understand that the big picture is not just about profit margins, but giving customers what they want...
Exactly, the average customer fails to understand this. It's not their 50,000 they have to throw down on an item. 1 item.I have not doubt NutraPlanet understands the "big picture" as well as anyone else. The wide variety of sales they do is testimony to this. Yet, NutraPlanet must correctly scrutinize customer wishes to be able to assess their commercial viability, as well as not only the required initial investment, but also the inventory exposure. Standard investment analysis.
Overall, NutraPlanet is customer-focused, and will certainly reflect this in its decision here.
VERY VERY VERY BADLY!!!!!!!Here it is...show us how bad you guys want us to stock GPLC (glycine propionyl l-carnitine). The demand has to beat the cost...which is pretty high.
If there is enough demand to meet the cost then the boss would be more inclined to stock it. Share your support by posting in here. Quantity you would order and dosing should be good info.
If there isn't enough demand we will not risk stocking such an expensive product
It isn't a niche product, this should be used by anyone within a square mile of a dumbbell! It is on par quite easily with beta alanine and perhaps even the longstanding king of the otc hierarchy itself, creatine. You must not have been taking enough to impart the true dramatic physiological effects realized by 4.5+ grams, the clinical efficacious dosage.It is kind of a niche product. I've tried GPLC and just PLCAR and couldn't tell a noticeable difference between those two. So no...I wouldn't pay the extra $$ for GPLC
Going straight through Sigma-Tau huh? Awesome!Problem of gplc is suppliers...there are only a handful...literally and those aren't set up for BIG orders like the ones we deal with. When we stock something we want to have stick after stock as to not run into out of stock issues. Some supplements are different, different extraction processes which take more time and others where the raws are present in different countries. Add on tarifs, restrictions and it gets expensive.
The company we are talking to know holds a patent on gplc I'm told and conforms to te quality standards we require our products to have.
Repped for that reply - awesome reasoning; I also simply try to consolidate my shipping costs to one purchase online. I bought Slin Sane yesterday from another website because I had a coupon code and shipping was $6.99 and arrives the next day.Many customers like a one-stop website. I know I do. I got online and headed over to Nutra to look for some GPLC after reading about it in a recent MD magazine and was disappointed that my one-stop web store did not carry it. I got on here and found this thread. Now I'm headed over to PP for some, and if they also carry the other supplements that I need to refill on, I will also be ordering from there. One stop, one cart to pay attention to, one single payment, one package to keep track of through the shipping process and one package to deal with at the door.
Nutra needs to understand that the big picture is not just about profit margins, but giving customers what they want. So what if Nutra only makes 10 cents profit per 50g? Nutra will make up for it with the other $400-$600 I typically drop per order. I know Nutra doesn't have the BEST price out there. Nutra just has good overall prices, and a large inventory. That's what attracted me to them after some bad customer service at BN years ago.
My vote is for you guys to carry it at competitive prices even if the profit margins aren't going to be large. Off to the other site I go...
-Paul
VERY cool, thank you so much for the update...I've been discussing pricing with Sigma Tau to try and get a better deal so we can pass it on to you guys...
Reps for the update and working to get us awesome pricing, as only NP can do!I've been discussing pricing with Sigma Tau to try and get a better deal so we can pass it on to you guys...
IMHO I think it has to do with the study: Bloomer RJ, Smith WA, Fisher-Wellman KH. Glycine propionyl-L-carnitine increases plasma nitrate/nitrite in resistance trained men. J Int Soc Sports Nutr 2007;4(1):22.To be perfectly honest, though, I do not see how this is superior to Propionyl-L-Carnitine.
PLCAR costs less and requires less of a dose to be active.
With GPLC, the Glycine is going to cleave off of the PLCAR and too much Glycine all at once can make people overly drowsy, hence why you may see some companies over-compensating with stimulants when using GLPC in a blended pre-workout product.
I mean, to each his own, but I'm just not seeing why people want to pay almost double for essentially PLCAR + Glycine.
If I'm missing something, someone please enlighten me. Everyone knows I've been wrong before.
To be perfectly honest, though, I do not see how this is superior to Propionyl-L-Carnitine.
PLCAR costs less and requires less of a dose to be active.
With GPLC, the Glycine is going to cleave off of the PLCAR and too much Glycine all at once can make people overly drowsy, hence why you may see some companies over-compensating with stimulants when using GLPC in a blended pre-workout product.
I mean, to each his own, but I'm just not seeing why people want to pay almost double for essentially PLCAR + Glycine.
If I'm missing something, someone please enlighten me. Everyone knows I've been wrong before.
This is some VERY good food for thought. I have just been reading through all the published studies listed directly on the GPLC official website, and even though Sigma has been the leading research firm regarding Carnitine, I have never seen such a dramatic 'push' and science-backed campaign paired with hugely positive user feedback before - as we are seeing with GPLC. I am definitely one of the many who would be ecstatic to implement a supplement as effective at half the price, but for now I have yet to see any true definitive lines and comparative analysis drawn between these two versions.To be perfectly honest, though, I do not see how this is superior to Propionyl-L-Carnitine.
PLCAR costs less and requires less of a dose to be active.
With GPLC, the Glycine is going to cleave off of the PLCAR and too much Glycine all at once can make people overly drowsy, hence why you may see some companies over-compensating with stimulants when using GLPC in a blended pre-workout product.
I mean, to each his own, but I'm just not seeing why people want to pay almost double for essentially PLCAR + Glycine.
If I'm missing something, someone please enlighten me. Everyone knows I've been wrong before.
To be perfectly honest, though, I do not see how this is superior to Propionyl-L-Carnitine.
PLCAR costs less and requires less of a dose to be active.
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WOULD LOVE TO SEE LCLT/PLCAR IN BULK.ANY CHANCE?
Were you looking at this on Bulk Nutrition's Australia site? I saw that too... wonder why their main domestic site doesn't carry it yet?I've seen it for $120 for 300 grams and that's coming from Australia so who knows the shipping $40 for 100grams IS fair, this stuff is expensive and I have no problem supporting NP, just be realistic about this one guys it's PRICEY.
YUPWere you looking at this on Bulk Nutrition's Australia site? I saw that too... wonder why their main domestic site doesn't carry it yet?
Also... sadly... anything with true science behind it (GPLC, na-r-ALA, Pycnogenol etc) will always be pricey, because they actually work
The only exclusions to this rule, would be Creatine and BCAAs as they have been widely available for decades and the raws are easier to manufacture.
I have not heard anyone talk about Superior for a long time... I used to buy from them a long time ago when they were one of the only ones with na-r-ala, along with Life Extension I believe. I was going to swing over by their website and see what they have going on these days, they don't carry GPLC anymore? Ha, actually I don't even know if they're in business... they were a good company from all my experience.My stash of Superior Nutraceuticals GPLC is going for 90 dollars a 250g tub on the web.
And I have another pile of RPN LCLT that is OOS.
PP's price is still cheaper at 29 cents per gram vs 36 cents per gram at Superior Nutraceuticals.My stash of Superior Nutraceuticals GPLC is going for 90 dollars a 250g tub on the web.
And I have another pile of RPN LCLT that is OOS.
I think they are still up and running.I have not heard anyone talk about Superior for a long time... I used to buy from them a long time ago when they were one of the only ones with na-r-ala, along with Life Extension I believe. I was going to swing over by their website and see what they have going on these days, they don't carry GPLC anymore? Ha, actually I don't even know if they're in business... they were a good company from all my experience.
rpn has quality product.I would even bet that we could find PLCAR for cheaper than what RPN offered if we looked hard enough.
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looking into this as we speak. Once I know, I will post it up here :thumbsup:any updates?
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