Formex MCPE - Coming soon!

[nattydisaster]

What do you think about stacking x-dreams with Formex?......:scared: :dl:

You could stack them, they dont interfere or anything. X-dream is awesome. I take one every night.

 

[nattydisaster]

Personally, I'd think a Reverse/Formex stack would be very effective.

I agree. For someone really looking for some anti aging and year round test boost, a dose of reverse and 25-50mg Formex could be very potent.

 

[rxp1997]

how do you guys (IBE) foresee the PCT landscape shaping up? here you have a product that is redefining the pct AI and maybe testbooster aspect, anything in the OTC SERM arena?

 

[Iron Lungz]

how do you guys (IBE) foresee the PCT landscape shaping up? here you have a product that is redefining the pct AI and maybe testbooster aspect, anything in the OTC SERM arena?

Well, you will just have to wait to see what the future has in store for everyone, won't you?
The Innovation is just now starting!

 

[rxp1997]

well then, hope you keep me in mind as you start making announcements :notworthy:

 

[celc5]

stxnas,
I've ran form stacked with other popular AI"s and stacked with popular div products. It's soooo much more potent that it totally overshadowed everything anytime I stack it in my experience.

I get a lot of form questions and I keep the answers simple:
Bulk: form + creatine
Cut: form + fat burner

I personally try to add form in when I hit a plateau in a bulk or cut... rather than start off a phase with it. So, I sort of use it to kick into that next gear when I felt that I'd naturally hit a wall.

 

[somewhatgifted]

stxnas,
I've ran form stacked with other popular AI"s and stacked with popular div products. It's soooo much more potent that it totally overshadowed everything anytime I stack it in my experience.

I get a lot of form questions and I keep the answers simple:
Bulk: form + creatine
Cut: form + fat burner

I personally try to add form in when I hit a plateau in a bulk or cut... rather than start off a phase with it. So, I sort of use it to kick into that next gear when I felt that I'd naturally hit a wall.

Celc what are your stats out of curiosity , no homo.

 

[celc5]

Celc what are your stats out of curiosity , no homo.

At the moment, I'm about 195. I can see abs after a workout and first thing in the morning, but not after a meal. So I'd guess I'm about 14% bf.

For the log, I'd like to see a drop of about 4 pounds fat mass in 4 weeks. I'd like lean mass to stay exactly the same or possibly gain about a pound lean mass. I think those are reasonable goals that would be congruent with my previous form experience.

 

[nattydisaster]

At the moment, I'm about 195. I can see abs after a workout and first thing in the morning, but not after a meal. So I'd guess I'm about 14% bf.

For the log, I'd like to see a drop of about 4 pounds fat mass in 4 weeks. I'd like lean mass to stay exactly the same or possibly gain about a pound lean mass. I think those are reasonable goals that would be congruent with my previous form experience.

Definitely very reasonable goals. I'm excited to see you run it. :dl:

 

[celc5]

Definitely very reasonable goals. I'm excited to see you run it. :dl:

The deadlift icon is very appropriate actually. I'm a big fan of SLDL, but recently just switched that up for traditional deadlifts. I'd love to see 5 plates go up for a few reps for the log :head: That'll probably be the lift for my objective power measure.

 

[stxnas]

stxnas,
I've ran form stacked with other popular AI"s and stacked with popular div products. It's soooo much more potent that it totally overshadowed everything anytime I stack it in my experience.

I get a lot of form questions and I keep the answers simple:
Bulk: form + creatine
Cut: form + fat burner

I personally try to add form in when I hit a plateau in a bulk or cut... rather than start off a phase with it. So, I sort of use it to kick into that next gear when I felt that I'd naturally hit a wall.

That's some nice feedback there, thanks!

 

[LakeMountD]

 

[Hank Vangut]

stxnas,
I've ran form stacked with other popular AI"s and stacked with popular div products. It's soooo much more potent that it totally overshadowed everything anytime I stack it in my experience.

I get a lot of form questions and I keep the answers simple:
Bulk: form + creatine
Cut: form + fat burner

I personally try to add form in when I hit a plateau in a bulk or cut... rather than start off a phase with it. So, I sort of use it to kick into that next gear when I felt that I'd naturally hit a wall.

i'd say -
Cut: form + creatine + fat burner

i don't see why you'd take the creatine out. extra water retention and atp levels have nothing to do with burning fat, but it does help maintain strength/muscle.

 

[nosnmiveins]

thats badass Lake

 

[strategicmove]

thats badass Lake

Looks great!

 

[Ev52]

sweet looking!

 

[stxnas]

You guys have some pretty cool looking labels. I know, I know, it's what's IN the bottles that counts...but still...

 

[JBerto]

HDrol + Formex

Personally, I'd think a Reverse/Formex stack would be very effective.

I'll run HDrol + Formex. I think it must be a good mild, safe and effective cycle.

What do you think about this cycle:

Cycle: HDrol + Formex (4 weeks)
PCT: Reversitol + Formex (4 weeks)

??

 

[celc5]

i'd say -
Cut: form + creatine + fat burner

i don't see why you'd take the creatine out. extra water retention and atp levels have nothing to do with burning fat, but it does help maintain strength/muscle.

I see your point. I just like to find excuses to cut creatine out occasionally. I like the feeling of adding it back in after taking a month or 2 off.

I'll run HDrol + Formex. I think it must be a good mild, safe and effective cycle.

What do you think about this cycle:

Cycle: HDrol + Formex (4 weeks)
PCT: Reversitol + Formex (4 weeks)

??

I ran Hdrol with Formestane about 2 years ago and the recomp was rediculous. I gained something like 7 or 8 pounds and bf dropped by about 2% in 5 weeks. I HIGHLY recommend that stack.

 

[nattydisaster]

I'll run HDrol + Formex. I think it must be a good mild, safe and effective cycle.

What do you think about this cycle:

Cycle: HDrol + Formex (4 weeks)
PCT: Reversitol + Formex (4 weeks)

??

That sounds like a solid plan. If you do this log it so I can follow!

 

[JBerto]

Thats sounds like a solid plan. If you do this log it so I can follow!

I'll do it for sure! :thumbsup:

IMO HDrol + Formex must be a great mild cycle with very low sides, low hepatic toxicity, no hairloss, no gyno,...

I can't wait to try it!!!

 

[nattydisaster]

I agree completely, cant wait:hot:

 

[alwaysgaining]

the best part i all ready bought some 29.99 its cheap!
just look around

yeah guys thanks i plan on maby using it during mi dermacrine run or after for pct

 

[james1]

Is it suppressive at any high but reasonable dose? what is the highest dose you would see this used at?

 

[Iron Lungz]

Is it suppressive at any high but reasonable dose? what is the highest dose you would see this used at?

Without suppression - 50mg ED. I would recommend to stay there, or run 25mg ED.

 

[DreamWeaver]

Without suppression - 50mg ED. I would recommend to stay there, or run 25mg ED.

What dosage would you recommend for my scenario, I think you know I use E-Form 100mg 3 times a week. This way I can continue use over extremely long periods, and I've seen great benefits. I was just wondering how that would compare to the new oral.

 

[Iron Lungz]

What dosage would you recommend for my scenario, I think you know I use E-Form 100mg 3 times a week. This way I can continue use over extremely long periods, and I've seen great benefits. I was just wondering how that would compare to the new oral.

With you, I would say to do what Natty is doing - run 25mg ED. Or you can run it 3 days at 25mg, then 3 days at 50mg... Or just do a straight up and down dose (25/50/25/50...)

 

[nattydisaster]

Without suppression - 50mg ED. I would recommend to stay there, or run 25mg ED.

Yup, 50mg will be the sweet spot. Remember, you don't want to get rid of ALL the estrogen in your body, just most of it . This is why proper dosing is important. The only reason I would expect to see someone go over 50mg/day is if they are on an extreme amount of synthetic testosterone.

 

[nattydisaster]

With you, I would say to do what Natty is doing - run 25mg ED. Or you can run it 3 days at 25mg, then 3 days at 50mg... Or just do a straight up and down dose (25/50/25/50...)

Great Advice ^^^^

 

[DreamWeaver]

With you, I would say to do what Natty is doing - run 25mg ED. Or you can run it 3 days at 25mg, then 3 days at 50mg... Or just do a straight up and down dose (25/50/25/50...)

How long could one run a low dose like 25 ed ... you see by pulsing (3 times a week) I have been able to run it as a staple.

 

[Iron Lungz]

How long could one run a low dose like 25 ed ... you see by pulsing (3 times a week) I have been able to run it as a staple.

Everday. Natty is making it a staple at 25mg daily.
If you figure a 2 month supply (25mg daily), $30 is a great bargin!

 

[AZMIDLYF]

Sounds like a plan to me^^^

 

[celc5]

Were there any beta testers? If so, is there any feedback from them?

 

[Iron Lungz]

Were there any beta testers? If so, is there any feedback from them?

Dustin will have to answer this one.

 

[nattydisaster]

Everday. Natty is making it a staple at 25mg daily.
If you figure a 2 month supply (25mg daily), $30 is a great bargin!

Haha, i was just about to type this. IL is all over it today! And as IL said, I will be running it year-round at 25mg/day. 1 bottle will last me 2 months. If i decide to do a prohormone cycle or something, I will do 50mg/day while on cycle and PCT. I may also choose to randomly bump it up to 50mg/day for a month just to grab a little extra from it every now and then...sort of like a blast and cruise deal .

 

[Iron Lungz]

Haha, i was just about to type this. IL is all over it today! And as IL said, I will be running it year-round at 25mg/day. 1 bottle will last me 2 months. If i decide to do a prohormone cycle or something, I will do 50mg/day while on cycle and PCT. I may also choose to randomly bump it up to 50mg/day for a month just to grab a little extra from it every now and then...sort of like a blast and cruise deal .

And bumping it up will also help in plasma levels. A spike (or a kick E down) every now and then is good for the overall benefit of getting rid of that excessive Estrogen that haunts and attacks the mid-section.

Natty should see great results withing weeks; overall, within months. His success will be the blueprint for all at some point - I can see it, at least.

Damn, $30 a bottle, seriously, it can't be beat.
For all those who are hesitant, great, because there will be some great unbiased logs going on in a week or so. We picked people that are reliable for unbiased reviews. We at IBE want to show you that we may not hype like some companies, but we are willing prove our products in a "real life situations." So let’s let the proof come to light with use.

 

[AZMIDLYF]

Any merit to running it first week at 50mg e/d and then backing down to the maintenance of 25 from then on? Just like front loading I guess...

 

[Mr.50]

So wait.....is it available yet?

Mr.50

 

[DreamWeaver]

Everday. Natty is making it a staple at 25mg daily.
If you figure a 2 month supply (25mg daily), $30 is a great bargin!

Yep just the kind of deal I was looking for...

 

[strategicmove]

So wait.....is it available yet?

Mr.50

Alwaysgaining appears to have bought some. See post #273!

 

[Mr.50]

Alwaysgaining appears to have bought some. See post #273!

I saw that. I can not seem to locate where he might have gotten some but I guess a pm might be in order.

Mr.50

 

[DreamWeaver]

Any merit to running it first week at 50mg e/d and then backing down to the maintenance of 25 from then on? Just like front loading I guess...

The possibilities are endless, I think I am one of the few who runs Formestane year round and I have to say that it is beneficial. I do believe that it retains it's effectiveness due to the fact that I pulse it. I am leaning towards 50 every other day, or 50 on workout days.

 

[AZMIDLYF]

I was thinking the same way DW. I workout 3 days a week though(mon,wed,fri). Would that be using it enough to see a result with 50 on those days only?

 

[DreamWeaver]

I was thinking the same way DW. I workout 3 days a week though(mon,wed,fri). Would that be using it enough to see a result with 50 on those days only?

You would be getting almost as much active ingredient almost as 25 a day.

 

[celc5]

... or 50 on workout days.

I'll definately be experimenting as a preworkout. The TD form rush was killer 15 minutes preworkout when I used to lift at home. But, you can't slather a TD on right before going to the gym if you don't want to smell like a total douche bag. So, an oral form preworkout would be killer, if you still get the rush.

 

[EasyEJL]

I'll definately be experimenting as a preworkout. The TD form rush was killer 15 minutes preworkout when I used to lift at home. But, you can't slather a TD on right before going to the gym if you don't want to smell like a total douche bag. So, an oral form preworkout would be killer, if you still get the rush.

my favorite for that was to take 3mg of melatonin, go do a heavy heavy leg workout, and then the eform after, and a no-carb pwo shake. was totally euphoric

 

[blind12]

...I still can't believe you guys are pushing this as a pct product. Why? The feedback isn't as good for pct. Trust me, I've ran it myself. The libido enhancement, strength, and aggression just aren't there with form during pct.
I've been using form on and off for about 3 years and have read countless similar opinions. Also there's some good DHT theories regarding why form isn't the best option for pct.

What theories, can you enlighten me ?

Also, what's the mechanism of DHT inhibition ? Nothing related to progesterone I hope ? Will this inhibition lower DHT or just reduce the increase from the increased test ?

 

[nattydisaster]

Any merit to running it first week at 50mg e/d and then backing down to the maintenance of 25 from then on? Just like front loading I guess...

You could, if you wanted it to start "kicking in" asap, but there would be no relevant reason to.

The possibilities are endless, I think I am one of the few who runs Formestane year round and I have to say that it is beneficial. I do believe that it retains it's effectiveness due to the fact that I pulse it. I am leaning towards 50 every other day, or 50 on workout days.

That would def. work

What theories, can you enlighten me ?

Also, what's the mechanism of DHT inhibition ? Nothing related to progesterone I hope ? Will this inhibition lower DHT or just reduce the increase from the increased test ?

5a-reductase inhibition

 

[Iron Lungz]

5a-reductase inhibition

Which is a gooood thing.

Inhibition of Type II 5a-reductase blocks the peripheral conversion of testosterone to DHT, resulting in significant decreases in serum and tissue DHT concentrations.

 

[nattydisaster]

Which is a gooood thing.

Less conversion to DHT means more total testosterone :dl: