Finished Havoc...into PCT,WHEN CAN I CUT????

[rocky025]

I finished my havoc im on week 2 of PCT about to starting LEAN XTREMES and i was thinking can i ease into a cut 3 weeks into PCT but go full bore into the cut when PCT is done... i need to lose fat for football season and im now 19% body fat and i need to be 15% at least in 5 weeks time from now.

when i was on havoc i gained 10lbs of fat ****! :aargh:

these PS/DS are bullshit waste of time, i should of done AAS

 

[Trauma1]

I finished my havoc im on week 2 of PCT about to starting LEAN XTREMES and i was thinking can i ease into a cut 3 weeks into PCT but go full bore into the cut when PCT is done... i need to lose fat for football season and im now 19% body fat and i need to be 15% at least in 5 weeks time from now.

when i was on havoc i gained 10lbs of fat ****! :aargh:

these PS/DS are bullshit waste of time, i should of done AAS

I'll be the first to ask.......So what did your diet look like?

 

[rocky025]

I'll be the first to ask.......So what did your diet look like?

i ate the baisc healthy stuff 3750cals clean + i ate lots of bonus food i call it.. which bumped up my cals of 5000cals..i ate the odd hamburger, oatmeal bar, etc. i was sorta of dirty bulking

 

[Trauma1]

i ate the baisc healthy stuff 3750cals clean + i ate lots of bonus food i call it.. which bumped up my cals of 5000cals..i ate the odd hamburger, oatmeal bar, etc. i was sorta of dirty bulking

Well, there is your answer man. You make the cycle what it is.

I don't encourage you to start a cut until you pct is done. You'd be surprised what you can do on a 3-4 week cut.

 

[UnrealMachine]

6'0 200 with 19% bf and "football season" guessing you are underage

IMO this was not a good choice, especially with such a poor diet to gain 10lbs fat on something as lean as Havoc

You determine the results of the cycle, do not blame the compound, do not regret not using AAS... take a step back from it all, and for fukc's sake remember that PH = steroids, not bullshit.


Now to answer your question, complete PCT with a solid diet, you need enough cals to maintain the muscle mass you added. You have to wait until PCT is done before you start a cut. Start cutting too soon and the caloric deficit will make you lose your gains.

 

[tnick7]

I finished my havoc im on week 2 of PCT about to starting LEAN XTREMES and i was thinking can i ease into a cut 3 weeks into PCT but go full bore into the cut when PCT is done... i need to lose fat for football season and im now 19% body fat and i need to be 15% at least in 5 weeks time from now.

when i was on havoc i gained 10lbs of fat ****! :aargh:

these PS/DS are bullshit waste of time, i should of done AAS

Oh funny they are crap, this is your right up copy and pasted from YOUR LOG on the bb forums. I will post the link if I'm allowed, or anyone interested PM for links, there are before and after pics, with VISIBLE differences

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Cool The End Of Cycle
Today was the last day and to wrap it up i gained some good weight and Strength but was a little less then expected. overall this product was great and i plan to run again some day, when? im not sure but i might take it when im bridging from my cut into a bulk next march

Sides effects i felt:
Week 1: little roid rage/ Acne
Week 2: Medium roid rage/ acne
Week 3: Medium Roid rage/ Acne!
Week 4 Laziness/ testicals shrinking/ Acne

Results:
Bench: 185lbs x 2 reps ----> 185lbs x 9 reps
Squat: 275 x 4 reps ----> 315 x 2 reps
Dead: 315 x 6 reps ----> 345 x 6 reps
Bicep Curl: 85lbs x 8 reps ----> 105lbs x 10 reps
Shoulder Press: 135lbs x 5 reps ----> 145 x 10 reps

+ all other lifts have gone up a hell alot! just dont want to write all of them.
++ i will post weight next time i weight in

Measurements:
Waist: 34.5" ----> 34.5"
Biceps: 13.75" ----> 14.8"
Chest: 40.5" ----> 42."
Thigh: 24.5" ---->26"

pic: i changed a lot just my fat hides it

 

[DrakeC]

Oh funny they are crap, this is your right up copy and pasted from YOUR LOG on the bb forums. I will post the link if I'm allowed, or anyone interested PM for links, there are before and after pics, with VISIBLE differences

LOL good find. So on one site you love it and on the other you hate it?

:hammer:

 

[A_I_Sports_Nutrition]

Wow got nothing better to do I guess:dance:

 

[LatsRus]

HAHAHAHAHA!! RIDICULOUS! how old are you? 16?? JESUS!

 

[Rabidpanda25]

Sides effects i felt:
Week 1: little roid rage/ Acne
Week 2: Medium roid rage/ acne
Week 3: Medium Roid rage/ Acne!
Week 4 Laziness/ testicals shrinking/ Acne

lol