For extreme use take 4 caps twice a day! Should I give this a run?
Give it a shot see what happens.For extreme use take 4 caps twice a day! Should I give this a run?
Yah I only what moderate results so I will take less... lol yah anybody that believes that, well thiere this bridge I have for sale in Brooklynn...For extreme use take 4 caps twice a day! Should I give this a run?
I like that kind of instruction ... lets push it to the max but for the logging purposes use as intructed. Then buy a boatload of the shyte and go to town. I know that's not the real price on Nutra it will go down significantly I believe.I only ask because it has this in the instructions of use. :saevil:
i thought it was pretty damn extreme on the 4/day dosing myself :blink:I only ask because it has this in the instructions of use. :saevil:
Coming up to contest time I will be extreme .. something tells me you will be too...i thought it was pretty damn extreme on the 4/day dosing myself :blink:
try it AZ - just keep in mind, you may exacerbate any issues you have noticed, by doing so :dunno:
Thats what i would do if it were me but not sure if the other guys have a better idea.Out of curiosity, if dosing 8, what would be the optimal time? I'm figuring four 30 minutes before lifting. What about the other four? AM meal perhaps?
i do not have an answer for that att..seems to make sense, but may be more like a 6on/2off rotationDoes this need to be cycled like most other supplements? 8 weeks on then off for 4 and back on? Just curious..
you bashful all the sudden, friend?Here is a pic today of me afterwards...I'm covered up but you can see that my arms are filling up the sleeves of that XXL.
Well,the pump for me took about 2 days to establish itself fully. I had to interupt my run so I can't say much as far as it peaking. I will be on this run longer so maybe I can comment on that soon.What I want to find out is when you peek using this cuz that's how far out from contest I will use it.
It should be a killer combo in my mind. I am taking creatine mono(5g ed) during this but have been for sometime. The endurance/stamina aspect is phenomenal for me and the pump just sweetens the pie.One thing that caught my attention was the fact that you had to work longer to get lactic acid to come. Wouldn't this suggest an increase in ATP ? Makes sense. Now I really wonder about this with Crea-Trona.....
so you are nitrating your creatine?It should be a killer combo in my mind. I am taking creatine mono(5g ed) during this
I'n not waiting I am going to jump in right away.... cycle or no cycle...Today is my core/posterior chain day. I did weighted ABs/hanging knee raises and then went to weighted Reverse Hypers/weighted single leg hypers/RDLs/weighted glute bridges/lying hamstring. I blew through the workout but at the end I could barely stand erect because my back was so pumped. I would not suggest that Max Pump be used while on cycle. Lol
Calves/Shoulders tomorrow.
Reverse hacks, Leg press and leg extensions for me right now.Well that or don't do the exercises that make your back pump really bad with it. I almost never do Squats on an oral run. I will always go for the leg press simply because I have had squats cripple me via back pump to the point I had to stop too many workouts because I couldn't even walk much less lift.
Main reason for doing the Zerchers^^Reverse hacks are really a squat, does put less pressure on the core though.
As my waist gets smaller, I am at bigger risk but I do a lot of WOD so I should be ok..Main reason for doing the Zerchers^^
No Nonsense at all! In all honesty squats are basically a hamstring, adductor and hip exercise for me. My natural pelvic tilt and hip position see to that. I can do very close stance squats and get my quads but in all honestly the leg press does a much better job for me than squatting as a power move for my quads. When I switch up my legs to doing hamstrings and quads separately I put squats on the hamstring days, alternating typically with Dead Lifts as the main exercise. For quads it is mostly leg press with some hack squats tossed in. I do like to do leg press first sometimes then do a Widow Maker on squats while my quads are already beat then they seem to get much more from the squats.what what what??!?!?
what's this nonsense about no squats? :blink:
man....cannot live without them..of course, i don't have a leg press unit, so unless i'm doing squats or walking lunges, my wheel size suffers tremendously
Nice that you are getting a pump in places you normally don't. Zerchers are some seriously uncomfortable S.O.B.'s do you use a towel or anything to keep them from biting into your biceps tendons?True that Snags! I've always had some form of squat in my routine. Right now I am using the Zercher squat. It isn't quite as hard as the front squat but it's close.
Today I hit calves/shoulders. I've always had a tough time getting my shoulders to fill up with blood but today it was definitely better than usual. Nothing to get excited over but a noticeable improvement. I did however increase my reps and weights today so the endurance/strength aspect is still solid. I am still loving this benefit tremendously.
For the reverse hacks do you mean just facing backwards in a Hack Squat Machine? We have a machine specifically made for that in one of gyms I go to but again it ands up being hamstring and glute dominant.Reverse hacks are really a squat, does put less pressure on the core though.
I may have to give these another shot. I do get a great quad workout from Barbell hacks but talk about a movement that requires CNS to be trained... I have fallen backwards a step or two probably every time when I first incorporate them back into a workout. Man do they kill the quads though.Main reason for doing the Zerchers^^
puny wheels :28:By the way Paul Dillet built his legs without squatting also. He basically had the same situation as me regarding them being hip and hamstring dominant.
Yes the machine the gym is designed for both forward and reverse hacks and when you go very low it's extremely focussed on the hams and glutes. I need extra hamstring focus more than anything so it's a win for me.For the reverse hacks do you mean just facing backwards in a Hack Squat Machine? We have a machine specifically made for that in one of gyms I go to but again it ands up being hamstring and glute dominant.
Yeah it really has to do with pelvic tilt if they tend to rock back then glutes hams and hips are dominant, if they are in a more forward alignment then squats will rock quads. Don't get me wrong I definitely squat, I find it both fun and challenging. However to really get my quads I also need leg press. If I only had a home gym I would definitely have to do front squats or zerchers and barbell hacks to kill my quads.puny wheels :28:
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wow, that freak is enuff to make one believe in no squats LOL
i'll stick with what i know, however...
Nice I love that machine. I can load that bad boy up with plates all the way across it and rep that bad boy out for 3 sets of 15. I have ridiculously large glutes and my hamstrings are not too shabby either.Yes the machine the gym is designed for both forward and reverse hacks and when you go very low it's extremely focussed on the hams and glutes. I need extra hamstring focus more than anything so it's a win for me.
I have one lying around somewhere will give that a shot.I just use a squat bar pad to save the arms Kleen.
Xxl! Lookin thick!Biceps/Calves/Quads today and there weren't any of the issues from yesterday. Dosed Max with a whey shake first thing in the morning and did not feel any stomach discomfort. If I do the 8 cap trial I will keep the morning dose and then take the second 30 min preworkout. It won't be 12 hours but close enough. I will give it a go on monday for chest/triceps...can you think of a better time?? Lol
Vascularity/Pump: My biceps were blown up today. My quads felt like tree trunks after my 2 20 rep extensions following squats. Stretching them after was brutal.
Muscle Endurance/Stamina: 2nd day back on Max Pump and the reps just keep coming. I increase the weight and can still hit all my reps. You really have to push to get the lactic acid to come.
Muscle Stength: The weights keep moving up so here again my strength is building.
Overall: I am sold on the product and look forward to stocking up when out. Does this need to be cycled like most other supplements? 8 weeks on then off for 4 and back on? Just curious..
Here is a pic today of me afterwards...I'm covered up but you can see that my arms are filling up the sleeves of that XXL.
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I have the same issue with my back and traps and sometimes legs.5th day of use and it seems to have me feeling fuller all day. My diet has been on point since the trip out of town so no changes there to cause these effects. I am probably going to keep my cals at this level for a little while longer since I just started logging a test booster. Today I hit calves/back and once again the weights went up and all my rep targets were hit. It will be very interesting to see where my numbers go after Max Pump ends. Not much in the pump department with my back. I have 3 body parts that struggle to get pumps and good mind/muscle connections:back,hamstrings,and shoulders. My back is slowly coming on line but the other 2 seem hopeless. I guess I could throw calves(gastrocs) in there too. Hey,who doesn't like a challenge right. Off day tomorrow and then some core/posterior work on Sunday. Enjoy your Friday guys!
I agree. I have been just trying to hit them from every different angle and rep schemes. I will not give up.Yeah it sucks but I just look at it as a challenge and have been taking steps to turn the corner with it.
Same game plan here. I am aggressively trying to change things.I agree. I have been just trying to hit them from every different angle and rep schemes. I will not give up.
I plan to start competing mid next year so im giving it all ive got.
I definitely cant wait to try this stuff!Same game plan here. I am aggressively trying to change things.
Today was a basic core/posterior workout. Hit some ABs/reverse hypers/hypers and some stretching. My lower back was so pumped again that it was tough to stand up straight. I will say this though: day 4-5 is when the cummulative effects set in. The specific muscles you workout get pumped for about an hour and then subside but you do have a nice total body fullness all day. Tomorrow is chest/triceps and it will be a double dose test!
Fuggin "A" ...Aside from stims, it's not often that a new supplement comes along that you can physically feel it's benefits from the first dose.
Amen!Aside from stims, it's not often that a new supplement comes along that you can physically feel it's benefits from the first dose.