dman1
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I am 21years old 6 foot tall and weigh around 210-215 lbs in the morning high teens bf%
Been lifting since i was 16 Ive bench pressed 250 and squatted 365 ass to grass naturally so i have a base
this will be my 2nd cycle i ran 6 weeks of epi at 40-50mg no PCT(yes stupid but I didnt inform myself and its my fault but thank god i feel completely fine in all areas) which actually shrank my bad pubertal gyno, it came back after i stopped (in hindsight, DUH brb estrogen rebound and no PCT)but not back to the original size
My goals:
reduce pubertal gyno some more if possible or atleast keep it from getting worse and
lose 10-15lbs fat for boxing, gain as much muscle in the process emphasis on GAIN, the reason im running a somewhat aggressive cycle(not as aggressive as my soon to be hospitalized gym buddy lol) is that i dont want to just maintain i want to cut fat and gain muscle as stupid as it sounds and i have my mind set on this
What i have now:
OL EP15tane one bottle 15mg per cap, 120 caps, OL Sup3r PCT one bottle, nolva enough for 20/20/10/10 pct , 2 bottles CEL cycle assist
My planned cycle:
Ep15tane 60/60/45/45/30/15 or any other way that uses the entire bottle within 4-8 weeks but
yes for now i think tapered DOWN to make it kick in faster and try to minimize estrogen rebound. Please let me know if my logic is faulty and what kind of dosing of the 15mg/cap 120 cap bottle would lead to the most gains with as little E-rebound as possible. Slow and steady for 6-8 weeks or high dose for 4-6?
AND
either one bottle of OL super Epi andro again within 4-8 weeks whatever dosing schedule you guys say is best for gains
OR(based on what experienced bros say will lead to most gains)
Halodrol at a moderate dose something like 25/25/50/50/75/75 to complement strength and gains from epi( my initial set up for the halo option is very low dose in the beginning as i would be on a high dose of epi at first and i dont want to stress my body more than necessary for my goals)
and yes the stack HAS to be super dry because of the gyno issue. also question do halo and epi have synergy or do they compete for the same androgen receptor?
Support supps:
Cel cycle assist used as directed
PCT:
nolva 20/20/10/10 and sup3r pct
Please give feedback on my plan, what you would change in terms of dose schedule for as much gains as possible with the least risk of gyno(NOT reduce i am definitely using the entire epi bottle and stacking it with something as i want a little more gains then this alone would permit)
Once my questions have been answered and im ready to go i will do a detailed log for you guys
thnks again ahead of time for the responses
I am 21years old 6 foot tall and weigh around 210-215 lbs in the morning high teens bf%
Been lifting since i was 16 Ive bench pressed 250 and squatted 365 ass to grass naturally so i have a base
this will be my 2nd cycle i ran 6 weeks of epi at 40-50mg no PCT(yes stupid but I didnt inform myself and its my fault but thank god i feel completely fine in all areas) which actually shrank my bad pubertal gyno, it came back after i stopped (in hindsight, DUH brb estrogen rebound and no PCT)but not back to the original size
My goals:
reduce pubertal gyno some more if possible or atleast keep it from getting worse and
lose 10-15lbs fat for boxing, gain as much muscle in the process emphasis on GAIN, the reason im running a somewhat aggressive cycle(not as aggressive as my soon to be hospitalized gym buddy lol) is that i dont want to just maintain i want to cut fat and gain muscle as stupid as it sounds and i have my mind set on this
What i have now:
OL EP15tane one bottle 15mg per cap, 120 caps, OL Sup3r PCT one bottle, nolva enough for 20/20/10/10 pct , 2 bottles CEL cycle assist
My planned cycle:
Ep15tane 60/60/45/45/30/15 or any other way that uses the entire bottle within 4-8 weeks but
yes for now i think tapered DOWN to make it kick in faster and try to minimize estrogen rebound. Please let me know if my logic is faulty and what kind of dosing of the 15mg/cap 120 cap bottle would lead to the most gains with as little E-rebound as possible. Slow and steady for 6-8 weeks or high dose for 4-6?
AND
either one bottle of OL super Epi andro again within 4-8 weeks whatever dosing schedule you guys say is best for gains
OR(based on what experienced bros say will lead to most gains)
Halodrol at a moderate dose something like 25/25/50/50/75/75 to complement strength and gains from epi( my initial set up for the halo option is very low dose in the beginning as i would be on a high dose of epi at first and i dont want to stress my body more than necessary for my goals)
and yes the stack HAS to be super dry because of the gyno issue. also question do halo and epi have synergy or do they compete for the same androgen receptor?
Support supps:
Cel cycle assist used as directed
PCT:
nolva 20/20/10/10 and sup3r pct
Please give feedback on my plan, what you would change in terms of dose schedule for as much gains as possible with the least risk of gyno(NOT reduce i am definitely using the entire epi bottle and stacking it with something as i want a little more gains then this alone would permit)
Once my questions have been answered and im ready to go i will do a detailed log for you guys
thnks again ahead of time for the responses