The hostility is weird in this thread lol
Everybody is so wired on stimsThe hostility is weird in this thread lol
Highs vs withdrawals i guessThe hostility is weird in this thread lol
Super ultra hardcoreAlso not every captain has to go down with the ship!!!:
steroids and doomsday....
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Get some from Eva’s if you can, it’s legit good…. Haven’t tried any from Predator, but my thermal spark and excelsior from Eva’s in NY are bothThe new Thermal Spark being sold at Predator is not the same as the OG Thermal Spark. I have only tied the new one once so far, but it’s not nearly as good as the OG. It less energizing, less euphoric and doesn’t last as long.
The new one is not terrible, but not nearly as good imo.
Make senseBeen reading with interest initial thoughts on Thermal Spark. Where people say its not as punchy as the O.G, do you think there's a possibility that it's because receptors are down regulated or not as fresh as they once was?
Reason I say this is because to be brutally honest pre workouts don't really seem to hit me much anymore regardless of what it is or if I take a full serving or not. There could be truth in that or simply its not as formulated as it was
Reminds me of another supplement I used for a long time, eventually the magic went away and only returned when I started focusing on re-upregulating and rebalancing receptors with something else.
Just a thought. I'm going to be looking for a new pre soon.
I think so too. Never really thought of it like this, but even as an avid coffee drinker, the caffeine is going to have something of a dampening effect over time. So if you're running pre workout after pre workout and drinking things like coffee every day as well (as I do) it makes sense that the receptors aren't getting a break.Make sense
Definitely think long time stim use is gonna downgrade adrenal response. No different than how if you’ve drink regularly a scotch isn’t gonna do to you now what a beer would have done when you first drank.Been reading with interest initial thoughts on Thermal Spark. Where people say its not as punchy as the O.G, do you think there's a possibility that it's because receptors are down regulated or not as fresh as they once was?
Reason I say this is because to be brutally honest pre workouts don't really seem to hit me much anymore regardless of what it is or if I take a full serving or not. There could be truth in that or simply its not as formulated as it was
Reminds me of another supplement I used for a long time, eventually the magic went away and only returned when I started focusing on re-upregulating and rebalancing receptors with something else.
Just a thought. I'm going to be looking for a new pre soon.
Exactly that. So I wonder if people are over thinking it. Definitely doesn't make sense to have two versions of the same product for sale at different stores, although I know its wild swings and roundabouts with different batch numbers etc. I might take a 4 week stim break then try thermal spark.Definitely think long time stim use is gonna downgrade adrenal response. No different than how if you’ve drink regularly a scotch isn’t gonna do to you now what a beer would have done when you first drank.
That’s a good thought and probably true to some degree. I will say this though I only use OG thermal spark 1x every few months so I still stand by my statement that this new version is not nearly as good.Been reading with interest initial thoughts on Thermal Spark. Where people say its not as punchy as the O.G, do you think there's a possibility that it's because receptors are down regulated or not as fresh as they once was?
Reason I say this is because to be brutally honest pre workouts don't really seem to hit me much anymore regardless of what it is or if I take a full serving or not. There could be truth in that or simply its not as formulated as it was
Reminds me of another supplement I used for a long time, eventually the magic went away and only returned when I started focusing on re-upregulating and rebalancing receptors with something else.
Just a thought. I'm going to be looking for a new pre soon.
Most good things are pulled or dialled down to be fair. Trying to think off the top of my head the last pre I had that notably impressed me to a degree was probably Le Royal by Koka Labz. That's probably been reformulated since too. Didn't jump on the smash train, after reading how it dropped people on their ass.That’s a good thought and probably true to some degree. I will say this though I only use OG thermal spark 1x every few months so I still stand by my statement that this new version is not nearly as good.
That was almost 100% from the yohimbine. Basically ruined the entire experience thanks to the cold sweats and feeling of extreme overstimulation. Totally unnecessary ingredient. I've heard the same company makes SCL F-Bomb, which does NOT contain yohimbine but is almost impossible to find.Most good things are pulled or dialled down to be fair. Trying to think off the top of my head the last pre I had that notably impressed me to a degree was probably Le Royal by Koka Labz. That's probably been reformulated since too. Didn't jump on the smash train, after reading how it dropped people on their ass.
somewhere, @muscleman just got all the feels….I assume it's still g2g though. I'll try a scoop tomorrow.
I want to tryI assume it's still g2g though. I'll try a scoop tomorrow.
Yeah just some moisture got in there. It is definitely still g2g, but it will be a little harder to dose it. That doesn’t look too bad though. I would do 0.75-1.0 scoop of it.I assume it's still g2g though. I'll try a scoop tomorrow.
I've had an old PWO that I had to chisel pieces off with a knife, still worked fine, lolI assume it's still g2g though. I'll try a scoop tomorrow.
Does say 02/23 expiry but pretty sure it’ll work even if you gotta just eat itView attachment 238890View attachment 238891
Just took out a 2/23 batch I had opened previously and its turned clumpy.
I was looking at that too but it's like £25 or so for international shipping to the UK. Is it the next wildfire? Better or?I am enjoying the new Juiced preworkout
It’s different. Wildfire feels illicit, at times I’ll be so hyper focused midset and the music sounds enhanced and I’m like **** this is spiked wildfire has this steady zen type of stimulation, like I’m amped up but also feel very calm and my mind is quiet. I love it. Juiced has a very clean ,aggressive , throw the weights around feeling. From my experiences I believe it is super clean DMHA, but also alpha yo effects ( even though that isn’t on the label) however the alpha yo isn’t overwhelming - I had some nausea, chills , sweats and salivating but it was not unbearable like some other pres. In a way , using Juiced made me feel like alpha yo is useful for the first time( again , weird that it’s not on the label it definitely feels like it’s in there )I was looking at that too but it's like £25 or so for international shipping to the UK. Is it the next wildfire? Better or?
Who makes this?I am enjoying the new Juiced preworkout
A brand called Quality Vitamins makes Juiced PW.Who makes this?
Really quite crazy how different formulas hit people differently because for me I didn't feel anything too illicit feeling from wildfire. I tried it first at half a scoop then a full scoop. It was productive feeling and the most important aspect, the training, was productive too.It’s different. Wildfire feels illicit, at times I’ll be so hyper focused midset and the music sounds enhanced and I’m like **** this is spiked wildfire has this steady zen type of stimulation, like I’m amped up but also feel very calm and my mind is quiet. I love it. Juiced has a very clean ,aggressive , throw the weights around feeling. From my experiences I believe it is super clean DMHA, but also alpha yo effects ( even though that isn’t on the label) however the alpha yo isn’t overwhelming - I had some nausea, chills , sweats and salivating but it was not unbearable like some other pres. In a way , using Juiced made me feel like alpha yo is useful for the first time( again , weird that it’s not on the label it definitely feels like it’s in there )
It really is a good pwo , I am just summarizing here and I am not the most eloquent, but I think if you like getting hyped and intense workout it’s perfect. It also makes me want to keep going longer than I usually workout, definitely enhances endurance. The focus is also strong, I was better able to get in the zone during every set. Juiced reminds me in some ways of Smash amf but much cleaner and smoother
Don’t take this the wrong way, but I don’t think you should be taking any preworkouts or spending time on boards like this. Reading that post I hope you can get some help buddy cos it’s uncomfortable to read for me.Thank you Carolia and i dont anybody believe snd O dontr eanna shre too much here anymore. The last 11/25 I had was okay but been gettin tired of all toxic tasting owos kately.
And I have also had a reawakenig feeling ashamed of mu own stress and how O get hing up thesr wordöy things snd more or less obssesed with a supplemen of spme pf the ingredients onthere.
Also ashamed of myself and how I habe stressed by digital media.
Well I gad a rough patch in life and slthough very few offers coming I have stress addictetxpgonexand digital medua.
O akso studied years pnllne abd I gave to admiut with doped up with 10/22 Excelsior I got through3 courses at Uni in löittersy science and fil theory with 20 books on my table
I got all my credits snd made a few decent arguemts and essays but grnerally amI feel the academic structure abd what I studied mistly build on refering to wgat other gad written in mist of my studies humaniora that was mor important than stimulating new thinking leading to new knowledge
I am looking forward tryng to be a better person ansd I am looking to spen more tima on nature eather than pnlibe.
found this oaradise white beach in thus lake on the middle of the pine forest. Not long and vadt like Thsiland but amazingly beautiful and I live it so much to make campfire so much.
been lazy but thonking to get back to basics and from barely being able to do a songle pushup although I pnly weight 37kg when I was 12years old
I was however trainibg teble tennis until sömost 14 years of age in Öngby a world class elie club where The best player of all times joine his last years almaot turning 40z
jo waldner ping pong player there has never been anyone line him. Already as 12 he played afainst grown in highest keague on Swdden.
St 16 still linda tiny hit puberty kate I guess he reached Eurpean chsmpion fonsls snd lost to swede mikael apelgren.
The Chiness gas slmost lways dominated tanke tennis with more than 1000 traonees to Swdens every single time.
But smazinhgly on the 90s 3 Swedes becsme world chsmps even steslingcteam gokd from Chonese maybe 3 times?
Waldner was the greatest of the all I dont remember if he was tve first swede beating previous chsmp juanglisliksng? At arond 21 gettring his first gold nedal. He won dveryghing olympocs snd hus kast omympics he was 36 bern injured long time but made semifinsls to 4
He played öike no other inviting new serves and techniqyes no had done before.
I just got team gold in Stockholm gfor boys 12 years omd but was slmost the weakest of 5 pleys.
puberty gave 17 kg increase in one year O was teaing rable tennis snd running snd from skinny I beacme one of fastest 60 meters sprinter and sometimes I did 40 push uos in the morning without coffee or PWo and esoecially snd still my chest pos nicley delts pop too snallhands and supthin wrist sp arm never really grow much no matter 12
My son only 12 dont train but almost has as thick arm as me and myscles popping even without training.
he is developing into a very talented srtist
Myself maybe try and pick up push ups amazing alrounder!
I’ve tried adderex once. It worked pretty dand well for focus. Smooth energy. Kind of came in waves. But I felt like it made me not feel right for a day or too after. Need to try it again but with the holidays and work can’t risk a day after like that. I think Malabs Atteral is a better choice as of nowSo in regards to capsule based preworkouts then, is there anything around worth the vote other than hydrazine and thermal spark? How does this new version of thermal spark stand up to O.G hydrazine? Used O.G hydrazine before excelsior even, I was a fan
What's the story with this Adderex XR ? Never heard of it but seems to be getting some good feedback.
At the moment seriously tempted to revisit Le Royal. Me and Le Royal got on
Did you try it ? What makes you think it is spiked?I suspect juiced has a little something else in it that's not on label
what makes you think that it’s spiked ? The focus ? Endurance boost? Too me it just feels like a perfect blend of caffeine , dmha and alpha yoI suspect juiced has a little something else in it that's not on label
When you say like a longer lasting hydrazine, do you mean similar to the o.g hydrazine or the newer formulations? To me o.g hydrazine felt very different to excelsior buy still pretty damn good in its own right. Merry Christmas all.Muscleman you find a stash of OG excelsior? Haha Merry Christmas brother but seriously I hope you are happy and not manic! Clear head is best for the season.
As far as the new thermal, never tried the original, but subsequent uses of the new predator batch provide pretty long lasting clean focus. After about 2-3 hours you sometimes forgot you took it but then realize you have plenty of energy and are focused. To me that’s good. No stimmed out I might drop dead feeling. Still, not sure it’s like the original thermal spark from what people describe. But it does feel like a longer lasting hydrazine
I know what youre saying but I also know for a fact they changed the formula from 2020 to now... its clearly less potent and looks completley differentExactly that. So I wonder if people are over thinking it. Definitely doesn't make sense to have two versions of the same product for sale at different stores, although I know its wild swings and roundabouts with different batch numbers etc. I might take a 4 week stim break then try thermal spark.
It’s definitely then the original. It’s still better then most things out there right now just not sure it’s worth the price tag for me.I know what youre saying but I also know for a fact they changed the formula from 2020 to now... its clearly less potent and looks completley different
Different *It’s definitely then the original. It’s still better then most things out there right now just not sure it’s worth the price tag for me.
Feels similar to OG from memory. But honestly only tried a bottle of one of the later white cap bottles and it’s been a minute so could be off. I have black cap bottles currently but haven’t tried them in over a year so not sure there. Nothing like excelsior or anything like that. But clean long last energy. I don’t get any wild euphoria or anything like that out of itWhen you say like a longer lasting hydrazine, do you mean similar to the o.g hydrazine or the newer formulations? To me o.g hydrazine felt very different to excelsior buy still pretty damn good in its own right. Merry Christmas all.
How much was a tub at Eva and is it significantly better than predator in your opinion?No, purchase in store only to my knowledge….
I think guys taking lower doses/less stims in general seem to report better response over the long term than those who desentizied themselves by taking too much for too long. Think once you’ve crossed a threshold of use you’ll never respond the same way. Phenibut is similar here. Once you take a lot one time even a one year break will never hit the same for that user IME.Feels similar to OG from memory. But honestly only tried a bottle of one of the later white cap bottles and it’s been a minute so could be off. I have black cap bottles currently but haven’t tried them in over a year so not sure there. Nothing like excelsior or anything like that. But clean long last energy. I don’t get any wild euphoria or anything like that out of it
Just went to Eva's again. They got 7/26 tubs now available. I just went with 11/25 again.Get some from Eva’s if you can, it’s legit good…. Haven’t tried any from Predator, but my thermal spark and excelsior from Eva’s in NY are both
Top quality and excelsior is definitely better than the tubs I got from Predator….
$70 or $80 if I remember correctly?How much was a tub at Eva and is it significantly better than predator in your opinion?
$70 for TS. $80 for Excelsior$70 or $80 if I remember correctly?
“significantly” better would be a matter of opinion for everyone I guess, but I think so.
IMO, it’s definitely better…..haven’t tried any thermal spark from Predator, the ones I got
From Eva’s have all been hitters and same as OG to me, still the best cut supplement since OG Detonate IMO…..
Only allowed to sell in store is my understanding, not available online on their website….Anyone have the link to Evas. I dont see it online. I can just call them later, but I know theres at least 3 locations.
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