8/23.
I'm honestly surprised that it's taking so long for the next hardcore "underground" PWO to hit the shelves. After all, if you consider that Excelsior was originally released in 2016, it's been literally almost 8 years since we've seen anything new in that space enter the market. With the negative publicity swirling around the current iteration of Excelsior, you'd think another small-time supplement manufacturer would be chomping at the bit to establish their presence with a new product.always had a good experience and communication with Ruesco and Eva’s…..
Same great experience with Muscle Players, and always get great communication from Uncle Eddie, a real OG….
OG Excelsior and OG hydrazine came out soon after OG Craze got liquidated, so I expect the next best thing is just around the corner within the next 1-2 years like usual….
Mouth = watering.
I had the chrome label. I had the very first batch that ever came outI still would love the forum opinion of anyone who had that OG Chrome label dragon excelsior….what was it like and how did it compare to exp 9/21 and later?
I always was fortunate to get consistent tubs but did notice that Exp 9/21 was slightly stronger to me, COULD NOT go past 0.75 scoops on that and was when I started weighing scoops…..
I noticed the scooper included seemed to be more than a 6g serving at a full scoop (comparing to the scooper in OG Craze, which was smaller and when I started noticing, because it measured out exactly to 6g). Always wondered if this was one reason why people had negative effects
Can’t imagine what batches prior to 9/21 and/or first run launches with that chrome label
Were like but would love input on anyone that tried them…..
My man, there we go!I had the chrome label. I had the very first batch that ever came out
And that was why I left such a dramatic review on the forum
In my 20s I def had some recreational drug use. And strip clubs.
The OG excelsior absolutely reminded me of mixing an energy drink with a small line of cocaine.
Or maybe even some bath salts. I immediately knew something else was in it when I was gnashing my teeth and twirling glow sticks in between sets at the gym ( that's an attempted joke btw
I remember going into Eva's in NYC and they had a crap load of the chrome labeled Excelsior but I opted for some other pre workout instead. Can I press rewind lolOh how I'd pay top dollar for a chrome label excelsior
That Berry Lemonade OG Craze was my favorite…..I remember when it was all the rage to stack that with a scoop of Hemovol for extra pumps and debate OG Craze vs. OG Jack3D…As much as I want to chase the dragon, this stuff is probably far worse than any Rec and probably good for everyone it’s gone. I had so many chances to buy it but just like tin salts and phenibut I figured I’d best just live in ignorance. At least rec drugs were somewhat studied and had medicinal uses. If cocaine is that hard on your an hour imagine which something even stronger has for 12 - 24 hours. Craze always felt so clean to me that I thought the herbal ingredient list was true. Then one night I went out after work and brought to zip lock bags with scoop for me and my buddy who also worked late and he called me over a day later and still hasn’t been to bed.
Then one day I got a crazy berry bottle of craze after going through 5 normal tubs. One scoop
And I was balling on the phone and had to leave early. They are awesome but best they probably do away
Unfortunately, I didn't try Craze until I bought my first tub in October 2012, and I felt literally nothing from it. Funny enough, a DS rep on another forum advised that I may have been a "non-responder" to the formula, although I think it's more plausible that I'd bought a tub that was manufactured after the meth analogue had been removed from the formula.That Berry Lemonade OG Craze was my favorite…..I remember when it was all the rage to stack that with a scoop of Hemovol for extra pumps and debate OG Craze vs. OG Jack3D…
Never tried Detonate or OG OxyElite Pro, but all these were considered babies compared to the upper shelf of GNC “hard hitters” like 1-AD and 1-OXO by Pat Arnold etc that you could buy as quick and easy as candy, and with a gold card discount to boot….look at us now!
Ah, the good ole days lol….
Im in search for one, maybe its available and has been found out yet. Once the youtubers and all that make videos, the FDA probably goes after. So probably better be downlow.I'm honestly surprised that it's taking so long for the next hardcore "underground" PWO to hit the shelves. After all, if you consider that Excelsior was originally released in 2016, it's been literally almost 8 years since we've seen anything new in that space enter the market. With the negative publicity swirling around the current iteration of Excelsior, you'd think another small-time supplement manufacturer would be chomping at the bit to establish their presence with a new product.
let’s goo my boy 2 scoops + 2 hydrazine. See you at the topBoom bitches!
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I couldn't let you guys have all the fun without me. And I wanted to know what's life like on the other side. In to psychosis - and beyond!
Was 2 scoops of Excelsior stacked with 2 caps of Hydrazine the standard beginner dose
let’s goo my boy 2 scoops + 2 hydrazine. See you at the top
no one knows whats going on lolis the excelsior at PN legit? late to the party here but trying to get me a tub before its all gone. Are they ending supply soon or does no one know whats going on?
funnyvmuscleanamusings having become a drbgo!
I knew we could count on a real OG to weigh in!
Would love to see some muscleman musings on a scoop
I have been trying my red 5/24 after cutting out O.G. After quite a long break from any Excelsior one scoop felt like decent energy after adding a couple of cups of coffee.Well.. That was a disappointment..
Took 1 heaping scoop of Excelsior and didn't notice much. Maybe decent energy levels still at the end of my WO, but not sure if anything out of the ordinary and if Excelsior played a role in that.
One effect seems to be present; I'm on a cut and now 4,5 h after ingestion still not hungry at all. It did make my stomach a bit upset and even drinking my post WO whey was a bit unpleasent. So maybe it's a good appetite suppressant. Some subtle sings of a 'different kind' of stimulation/effects maybe present here and there, which makes me think, that there might be something different in it, but the amount is very low (in my tub). But double dosing (or more) would most likely yield way too much caffeine/other stims and would end up just being awful.
Angel Dust hits way harder and I prefer it clearly over Excelsior. Angel Dust actually provides great pumps as well, which is surprising considering all the stims in it.
The Hydrazine I bought before Brexit was clearly better as well, 1 cap vs 1 scoop. I'll see about this latest Hydrazine some other day.
I guess this (6/24) Excelsior may be a decent morning stim for cutting and appetite suppressant, but one of the worst 80£ I've spent
Thanks I am afraid I am not getting into any funny moods after the 5/24 LolMy man, there we go!
I knew we could count on a real OG to weigh in!
Would love to see some muscleman musings on a scoop of that OG chrome label dragon, would be like reading a passage of Harrison Ford’s dream in the movie Bladerunner….
matt Cahill of Driven Sports was telling people on bodybuilding.com to shake the tub! Duh! But yeah some of the tubs of Craze in the end were even more duds than the new Excelsior in my experience.Unfortunately, I didn't try Craze until I bought my first tub in October 2012, and I felt literally nothing from it. Funny enough, a DS rep on another forum advised that I may have been a "non-responder" to the formula, although I think it's more plausible that I'd bought a tub that was manufactured after the meth analogue had been removed from the formula.
Never had the chrome only 10/22 But my musings after my Craze Summer Tea were really far out in my head. I remember having such a sensory overload on so many levels.My man, there we go!
I knew we could count on a real OG to weigh in!
Would love to see some muscleman musings on a scoop of that OG chrome label dragon, would be like reading a passage of Harrison Ford’s dream in the movie Bladerunner….
Thanks for tagging me ! LolMy man, there we go!
I knew we could count on a real OG to weigh in!
Would love to see some muscleman musings on a scoop of that OG chrome label dragon, would be like reading a passage of Harrison Ford’s dream in the movie Bladerunner….
With all the publicity and this forum going on if any of us honest impulsive O.G people would get a hold of the new thing and tell it here surely many would try it and perhaps next time the FDA would be quicker?I'm honestly surprised that it's taking so long for the next hardcore "underground" PWO to hit the shelves. After all, if you consider that Excelsior was originally released in 2016, it's been literally almost 8 years since we've seen anything new in that space enter the market. With the negative publicity swirling around the current iteration of Excelsior, you'd think another small-time supplement manufacturer would be chomping at the bit to establish their presence with a new product.
Excuse me but are you saying 6/24 gave you a 10/22 like experience?I tried today 10/22 magic expierence .not this **** from PN 05/24. .06/24
aterall actually looks like a decent formula. 2 caps looks nice.Not excelsior but order some MA labs aterall and methyl blue. They arrive tomorrow along with Mitradopa. Love Mitradopa you can see my thoughts on the thread. I will update on the other two
Out of what I have currently, Crack Gold, Herolean, Double Impact, Zeus and some other weaker stuff it's the best and closest.Is crack gold as good as this stuff by the way guys?
Have you found another tub that causes sleeplessness lately?has anyone found a way to fall asleep after excelsior ?
Not selling, but I think many people who experienced negative effects on O.G like mentioned before simply overdosed.Anyone want to sell a sample
Of their OG so I can experience the mania?
Also, never taken excelsior, but MA supps Atteral ER combined with Mitradopa is insane
Yes those tubs are my old batch hahaHave you found another tub that causes sleeplessness lately?
Otherwise that´s the only great thing about my new red 5/24 PN tub , I can go to sleep and no mania....
If you never had O.G it is still different from other stims, some here seem to like the new tubs. Personally I am sad because although they almost resemble old tubs for a little moment if I have fressh receptors, then I notice the energy focus and mood dont really get there and even with double or threedouble dose compared to O.G I get sleepy and depressed, not buying again.So basically the new excelsiors are bunk?
Thanks for the info. I got a 6/24 batch coming. Do you think the new batches are still “enhanced”?If you never had O.G it is still different from other stims, some here seem to like the new tubs. Personally I am sad because although they almost resemble old tubs for a little moment if I have fressh receptors, then I notice the energy focus and mood dont really get there and even with double or threedouble dose compared to O.G I get sleepy and depressed, not buying again.
Gonna build tine machine to go back in time and buy more O.G though
Yes. Its still better then other normal PWOs. Just not meth or cocaine like people seem to want.Thanks for the info. I got a 6/24 batch coming. Do you think the new batches are still “enhanced”?
In my experiences and opinion I am guessing that they are "enhanced" in a different way that DMHA PWOs- I feel for example old 1,3 dimeth called DMAA today and am not sure but I even threw out my first and only tub of jack3d... It was strong but I got a short temper and couldn´t sleep for a long ti, after that as wellThanks for the info. I got a 6/24 batch coming. Do you think the new batches are still “enhanced”?
If you only would have saved your tub and sold it in the future to some Excelsior head in this thread insteadI do not recommend this product, it ended in the bathroom as my money : no effect
I would take Arez white if you support yohimbine and if not Re1Gn but the US version because for me the EU ver is not as good
Just curious -- how much were you looking to get for the second tub, if you do decide to sell it?Just got 2 tubs from ruesco. First tub was severely underwhelming. Not sure about second tub cause I think I’m going to sell it so don’t want to open it.
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