RPN put havoc on the market before IBE put epistane on the market.
IBE were the original founders of the chemical, and spent a lot longer time manufacturing it.
Who do you consider the original...the original producers of the chemical...or the first ones to slap a label on it and put it for sale?
very bold call natty and i find your other post really quite disappointing, this is not BB.com :think:
this debate has been done and dusted long ago, let sleeping dogs lie, last thing we need here is a sh*t fight about who was first and who said what, we're not kids and this isn't the school playground.
Jerseyboy884 use the search tool my friend and go over the logs etc and make up your own mind, there is definitly no shortage of info and feedback on havoc, epistane and epidrol.
choose one of the 3 and forget the rest.