Is this Epicatechin stuff still hot or not?
It really depends on the goals.Is this Epicatechin stuff still hot or not?
That doesnt mean anything, companies would put dog chit in their products if they thought it would boost sales. Hype is what keeps this industry afloatFar from bunk
And more and more companies are putting it in their products
How many legitimate studies could there actually be though?The "size" gains from myostatin inhibition were a bit blown out of proportion early on, but study after study has shown immense benefits in endurance, marginal strength gains and improvement of numerous health metrics like BP, lipids, etc.
For my money I like Epic Unleashed (specifically a combo of TD + caps).
So it does increase endurance huh, thats goodIt really depends on the goals.
If you buy it directly for size and strength (seen many false claimings from some companies) then you will be pretty disapointed.
But if you buy it for health properties, endurance boost and musclefullness/pumps then I would say it is a good product.
It does have a nice place in supplement industry and there will be more studies on this compound.
That doesnt mean anything, companies would put dog chit in their products if they thought it would boost sales. Hype is what keeps this industry afloat
Quite a few with more ongoing, and none of them were sponsored by supp companies.How many legitimate studies could there actually be though?
It isnt more expensive than ArA in some casesIf it weren't so expensive then it would be worth looking into, considering it's more expensive than ArA which has some more convincing info on it relevant to strength increases.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't at least 300mg the effective dose if used stand alone? Is CEL Epi Plex the cheapest?It isnt more expensive than ArA in some cases
yes exactly. Ep1c unleashed is the most superior epi product on the market but if you are looking for cost efficiency then yes epi plex can be had for like $30 before coupon codes which is $5-10 cheaper than ArACorrect me if I'm wrong but isn't at least 300mg the effective dose if used stand alone? Is CEL Epi Plex the cheapest?
Try EP1C ; )I'm not sure about Epi, I did a few bottles of Folli and 1 bottle of Magnitopine but didn't "feel" any big difference...
I really wanted it to work but I don't think it did... I been looking at Epic but not sure I willing to waste more money...Try EP1C ; )
We use PhytoFUSE for up to 200-600% increased absorption. Seems like a good amount of "non-responders" change their mind after EP1C.
I liked EpiPlex at 3 caps a day but it took a couple weeks to kick in. Folli was ehh for me at the suggested dose.
Understandable since you didn't respond to either of the other two.I really wanted it to work but I don't think it did... I been looking at Epic but not sure I willing to waste more money...
200-600% in people?Try EP1C ; )
We use PhytoFUSE for up to 200-600% increased absorption. Seems like a good amount of "non-responders" change their mind after EP1C.
I liked EpiPlex at 3 caps a day but it took a couple weeks to kick in. Folli was ehh for me at the suggested dose.
Does it really matter? You turn into a demigod from conquer before you take it200-600% in people?
I think most of our retailers sell Epi plex cheaper than our XgelsIt isnt more expensive than ArA in some cases
As long as it show single dose of epi and not in blendBlack Lion Research is coming out with a more comprehensive -Epi product as well. Will be worth looking into.
I bet that won't be cheap.Black Lion Research is coming out with a more comprehensive -Epi product as well. Will be worth looking into.
In my opinion none of them are cheap, really. But thus far I've had good experiences and I'll probably continue to periodically invest in some -epi as long as I keep having great training cycles on it. The fact that it's not a detriment to my health is a nice change of pace as well.I bet that won't be cheap.
Thats how i see it, ill prob pick up some epic next time i buy agmatine from np.In my opinion none of them are cheap, really. But thus far I've had good experiences and I'll probably continue to periodically invest in some -epi as long as I keep having great training cycles on it. The fact that it's not a detriment to my health is a nice change of pace as well.
I have a lot of money tied up in a storage building I just bought and with my limited funds for supps I need more bang for the buck than what I got from epi, especially at the price point it is set at.In my opinion none of them are cheap, really. But thus far I've had good experiences and I'll probably continue to periodically invest in some -epi as long as I keep having great training cycles on it. The fact that it's not a detriment to my health is a nice change of pace as well.
Speaking of bulk. What's the verdict on bulk ARA?I have a lot of money tied up in a storage building I just bought and with my limited funds for supps I need more bang for the buck than what I got from epi, especially at the price point it is set at.
now if it were available in bulk say for a price like agmatine I would be a buyer...I will just stick with agmatine for the health benefits at a MUCH better price point.
I would definitely advise against it if you don't have supp money to blow - it's the first none-bulk supp I would buy after basics but price point now makes it non-staple for time being.I have a lot of money tied up in a storage building I just bought and with my limited funds for supps I need more bang for the buck than what I got from epi, especially at the price point it is set at.
now if it were available in bulk say for a price like agmatine I would be a buyer...I will just stick with agmatine for the health benefits at a MUCH better price point.
Powder is like 5% AraSpeaking of bulk. What's the verdict on bulk ARA?
I remember there being some back and forth.
I'm not sure anyone has stayed on it for an extended period but as a tea extract I would think you'd probably be doing your health a service honestly. I've used it for 10wks or so and only reason I stopped is because I ran out. And joints weren't an issue.i like Ep1c unleashed anyone feel like they need to cycle on or off this stuff at all
somebody tried to tell me that Epic would be bad for tendons and ligaments after a while
And the liquid form is like 40-45% right?Powder is like 5% Ara
Yeah, 40%. 8x moreAnd the liquid form is like 40-45% right?
tbh..epicatechin is one of only a few supps that I seem to be a non-responder to, I didn't get anywhere close to results some of you seem to be getting...this is not a knock on epi, I consider myself fortunate that I respond very well to most supps/ingredients.I think it goes for a lot of supps that they work differently for different people. Some however work for most.
I've found some work best stacked with others and some are decent standalone. Always research and research and get everyone's opinion first tho before plopping down that hard earned.
I've also found you get what you pay for.
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