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I m frightened to use testosterone because of the problem of acne and hairloss, is there another alternative for a first cycle?
in advance thank you for your reply
in advance thank you for your reply
And now you're asking if test is obligatory in a first cycle?hello everybody:nutkick:
i m a newbie and after a cure there remains to me a half bottle of testosterone. I wanted to know if I could keep it for my next cure, even if it is previous for in 6 months in advance....
thank you and sorry for my bad english
Agreed 110%There is no alternative to test. You have to decide whether or not the sides are worth what you want to accomplish. If they arent, then AAS isnt for you.
Some suppression without test?without test your going to have some suppression.
:blink:so turquish is not for me but for a friend of mine who don t speak english...
i m a little bit quite,i don t have hair !!!! lol
Haha, beat me to it ya bashtage!Some suppression without test?
How about even WITH test you WILL BE suppressed.
I see your reputation proceeds you? :trout:
:type: I already had my dose of cowbell for the day..... and I'm quick like that.Haha, beat me to it ya bashtage!
Dihydrotestosterone and nandrolone are naturally occuring steroids as is testosterone. All anabolic/androgenic steroids are preparations containing one of the three natural steroids or derivatives thereof....as all steroids are testosterone derivatives...
well to answer your question no it isn't but it is one of the better options. All steriods have some sides and you will have to do your research and see if the risk are worth the gains to you. But an EQ only cycle is fine for a first cycle dispite what everyone says. Primo if you can aford it can also be used. Thats about it though if your looking for mild, there are some rarer steriods that can be used but they can be hard to find.I m frightened to use testosterone because of the problem of acne and hairloss, is there another alternative for a first cycle?
in advance thank you for your reply
6 weeks of anavar. Very few get hair loss or acne from var, chances are you wont get either problem. You will be supressed still, but its not a bad experience and if you eat right it will greatly speed up gains. PCT is also generally a breeze. Few weeks of a SERM and very little crash. 90% of gains will easily be kept. I know some are against all oral, but everyday someone on here starts another thread about stacking halodrol and superdrol or something to that effect.I m frightened to use testosterone because of the problem of acne and hairloss, is there another alternative for a first cycle?
in advance thank you for your reply
It is my understanding that test causes suppression, as well. Your body has enough test when you take it, so it stops producing it. Where are you getting your information?without test your going to have some suppression.
have to agree on that, that is why I always finsh my cycles on test prop to keep that from happening until I have to.Most of the time the acne is caused by a flux in the hormone levels more so that the amount of test in the blood stream. One of my worst cases of acne was caused by a deca pack that was prescribe by my doctor for relieve from bulging disc..
The only "hard evidence" I know of is that testosterone is crucial to some activies of the body. Test does make cycles easier to cope with though, esspically if you are prone to ED while on. I guess I got lucky, because I am like you, never had a problem with getting my guy to salute. I have also never taken any sort of progestin either. Also, androgenic doesn't necessarily mean sex drive, its more of a "mind muscle connection" idea, as many report no sex drive at all while on tren alone, and you don't get much more androgenic then tren.I hear a lot of people on the boards repeating over and over that you must use test in every cycle, but I have yet to see hard evidence.
It isn't, never has been, and isn't likely to ever be. This is really a case of people taking generally good advice and turning it into gospel. Test is of course very often the best option and for most things the best “base” for a cycle. But it’s hardly necessary or even desirable all the time. People with joint or back problems for instance would do better to stay away from it. Deca, primo, var, and EQ would all be better options. Primo can often be used to replace test in terms of sexual side affects of deca or tren, proviron will work quite well in this regard. People with other health problems might also want to use steroids without the test sides.Isn't sex drive related to the androgenic component of testosterone? Shouldn't a good androgen keep you in working order. Why not take tren instead of test? Personally, I've taken all anabolic no-test cycles and still woke up every morning with wood.
There are plenty of authors who suggest no test cycles for cutting. Including the Anabolics 2005 author and the steroidology.com guy, two name two.
I hear a lot of people on the boards repeating over and over that you must use test in every cycle, but I have yet to see hard evidence.
um...why would those other compounds be better than test for people with back or joint problems???? EQ, for one, causes achey joints. not like winny, but still achey. i have never heard of anyone avoiding test because they have "back or joint problems"People with joint or back problems for instance would do better to stay away from it. Deca, primo, var, and EQ would all be better options.
i have also never heard of primo having noticeable libido stimulating properties.Primo can often be used to replace test in terms of sexual side affects of deca or tren,
definitely replace your "WILL work" with "MAY work" - wouldnt want anyone to think you are making suggestions into gospel.Proviron will work if fina d1ck is a problem,
Var increases collagen synthesis and Deca adds fluid and cushioning. I am sure skye has reasons for the other two.um...why would those other compounds be better than test for people with back or joint problems???? EQ, for one, causes achey joints. not like winny, but still achey. i have never heard of anyone avoiding test because they have "back or joint problems"
Makes sense to an extent, primo is a DHT based molecule. DHT generally is supportive of libido and sexual function.i have also never heard of primo having noticeable libido stimulating properties.
FYI, Proviron is/was PRESCRIBED for people with erectile function problems.definitely replace your "WILL work" with "MAY work" - wouldnt want anyone to think you are making suggestions into gospel.
i agree about deca for joints, but back problems? i've read that about var and collagen sythesis but never experienced any joint relief, nor have i ever heard of anyone experiencing it.Var increases collagen synthesis and Deca adds fluid and cushioning. I am sure skye has reasons for the other two.
no offense, but that is RETARDED.Makes sense to an extent, primo is a DHT based molecule. DHT generally is supportive of libido and sexual function.
that's wonderful. it still doesnt mean proviron WILL keep your **** hard during a tren or deca cycle.FYI, Proviron is/was PRESCRIBED for people with erectile function problems.
Superdrol gave me a libido boost. I won't try winny or anadrol. Remember, just because you respond a certain way to these compounds doesn't mean everyone does.no offense, but that is RETARDED.
winny is a DHT derivative. so is anadrol. so is superdrol. none of these help libido.
Ya, damn those doctors and their medical knownledge. There is no such thing as 100% when it comes to medication. 1% of people get a libido boost while on Tren. Therefore taking tren alone doesn't mean you WILL go limp either.that's wonderful. it still doesnt mean proviron WILL keep your **** hard during a tren or deca cycle.
re-read post #30.If skye's advice doesn't work for you then don't follow it. He tries to share information. He isn't forcing you to stop using test, he merely offered other routes to go. You don't have to go flamming a guy for bring different opinions to the table. I could have sworn thats what these boards were here for.....
Sense I seam to have stepped on your rather sensitive toes here I will explain myself though aspire had the basic ideaum...why would those other compounds be better than test for people with back or joint problems???? EQ, for one, causes achey joints. not like winny, but still achey. i have never heard of anyone avoiding test because they have "back or joint problems"
i have also never heard of primo having noticeable libido stimulating properties.
definitely replace your "WILL work" with "MAY work" - wouldnt want anyone to think you are making suggestions into gospel.
That doesn’t mean that people haven’t been doing lots of them for a long time, the old school deca/dbol, primo/tren, and all kinds of oral only cycles. This really isn’t anything new. A lot of old school beliefs are still around, almost no one believes that test e is worse then test cyp, or that you will keep less gains if you use test prop even though there are still charts out there that say that. Everyone still likes to say how bad dbol only cycles are even when half the threads in the forum are about oral only steroid cycles of newer designs.Test is of course very often the best option and for most things the best “base” for a cycle.
Really? I never had joint pain on 800mg EQ/week. Who are these people you speak of bro? I've never heard of that.so why does everyone report joint pain on EQ?
to be honest i've never heard of one soul report joint pain on EQ .. in fact i've heard many say it alleviates itso why does everyone report joint pain on EQ?
i've never heard of libido stimulation from primo, but i avoid almost all 5a-reduced steroids (MPB) so i havent done a bunch of research on it.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=235222&highlight=joints+EQReally? I never had joint pain on 800mg EQ/week. Who are these people you speak of bro? I've never heard of that.
Winny however... ugh.
not that anybody will care, but in the complete absence of DHT (the androgenic component of testosterone, for all intents and purposes), the libido is still fully functional. the body, apparently, makes your **** hard from DHT most of the time, but if you dont have any, testosterone itself will handle the job.Isn't sex drive related to the androgenic component of testosterone? Shouldn't a good androgen keep you in working order. Why not take tren instead of test? Personally, I've taken all anabolic no-test cycles and still woke up every morning with wood.
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