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Looking to pick up some msten and not source about sources. I stumbled upon these DNA Stenadrol 10 Msten pills. Has anyone ever heard of these or know if they are legit?
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NopeNobody ever heard of this?
When was the last time you used medfit? Cus I'm pretty sure they stopped prohormones and replaced all of them with sarms like 2 years ago.I’ve seen the bottle online…Never heard anything good or bad about it…Now Medfits Winswole is legit af! Try and find some of that…
They picked up SARMs while they were still doing hormonal stuff. I think the FDA got to them, they don’t do any of that anymore as far as I know.When was the last time you used medfit? Cus I'm pretty sure they stopped prohormones and replaced all of them with sarms like 2 years ago.
Talking about medfitRX right?
Do you think lgd would be a good fit alongside trt, low dose var/proviron?Dbol 5-10mg
Rad 140 15-20mg
Anavar or lgd4033 20-40mg.
8 weeks
Nolvadex/tamoxifen 20mg
Exemestane on hand
4 weeks
I'm not sure what your asking, good fit for what. If you add lgd or var to your trt then it's no longer trt, it's a cycle. Is it a good mild cycle, yesDo you think lgd would be a good fit alongside trt, low dose var/proviron?
I know a few gear sources but they don't carry designers like msten. I don't really trust just buying steroids off from a random site I found on Google. Ive used both dbol and var in the past. I was going to use dbol again for this run but it seems like people are saying msten is very powerful and gives more dry/keepable mass after the cycle. Used rad twice and it gave me bad insomnia so I don't want to try that again. Not sure if my liver will tolerate stacking 3 different orals.Everyone should stop wasting their time trying to find good prohormones and stuff like that and invest their time into finding a good gear source. There are many other forums besides this one where they openly share good sources. Some of them require a paid membership but it's cheap it'll cost you about $40 for a 3-month membership that will supply you with all the information you need. And this is not an invitation for people to ask me where these places are or what I'm talking about just use the Google search function it's not that hard.
If you're not going to use real injectable gear then I'd rather see someone use small doses of stuff like dbol and var over random prohormones.
This is also where certain sarms can come in handy.
As little as 5-10mg of dbol combined with 15mg rad 140 will work very similar to trt. Now add something that's not overly toxic like anavar or lgd and you got a nice little oral cycle. Far better then sarms only or prohormones only
I'm not talking about using websites. I'm talking about going to forums that share sources. They will direct you to ppl who supply gear directly via email. Also you obviously have no clue about oral steroids and liver toxicity and how these things work.I know a few gear sources but they don't carry designers like msten. I don't really trust just buying steroids off from a random site I found on Google. Ive used both dbol and var in the past. I was going to use dbol again for this run but it seems like people are saying msten is very powerful and gives more dry/keepable mass after the cycle. Used rad twice and it gave me bad insomnia so I don't want to try that again. Not sure if my liver will tolerate stacking 3 different orals.
Dbol is highly hepatotoxic. I ran it twice @ 25mg and both times my appetite was really struggling after a few weeks. So no I don't think stacking 2 more toxic compounds on top of that is going to be a good idea in any way. Rad gave me terrible insomnia and I do not want to use that again. That's just my personal experience, maybe for you it's different and we can agree to disagree. I think I would be better off running one single compound with NAC and TUDCA. I was going to start msten at 10-15mg for the first few weeks then increase to 20mg for 6-7 weeks max.I'm not talking about using websites. I'm talking about going to forums that share sources. They will direct you to ppl who supply gear directly via email. Also you obviously have no clue about oral steroids and liver toxicity and how these things work.
The cycle I listed above with the doses I mentioned will put your liver under equal or less stress then 20-30mg of msten. Also, you buying msten off a website is just as sketchy as buying steroids off a website.
And msten is a steroid
Dbol at 5-10mg like I listed above was and still in some places is prescribed as hrt long-term for LIFE. Rad 140, non toxic. Anavar has studies showing 30mg or less has little to no toxicityDbol is highly hepatotoxic. I ran it twice @ 25mg and both times my appetite was really struggling after a few weeks. So no I don't think stacking 2 more toxic compounds on top of that is going to be a good idea in any way. Rad gave me terrible insomnia and I do not want to use that again. That's just my personal experience, maybe for you it's different and we can agree to disagree. I think I would be better off running one single compound with NAC and TUDCA. I was going to start msten at 10-15mg for the first few weeks then increase to 20mg for 6-7 weeks max.
I was simply asking if anyone could vouch for this product or had any positive experiences with it as just to just blindly pulling the trigger on a random product that I have no idea if it works or not..
I'm well aware msten is a steroid. That's what I meant by designer (steroid).
Got the popcorn ready…getting interesting.Dbol at 5-10mg like I listed above was and still in some places is prescribed as hrt long-term for LIFE. Rad 140, non toxic. Anavar has studies showing 30mg or less has little to no toxicity
AND msten is more hepatoxic then dbol mg vs. mg.
25msten is more toxic then 25dbol
10-15msten is going to do very little for building muscle
Your question, no, no1 seems to know that brand
You don't know what your talking about when it comes to steroids and toxicity, and I'm done trying to help you. Which I'm sure you don't care so peace out
Naaa I quit
Okay peace Mr. steroid expert. Maybe one day I can be as enlightened as you. Sorry that you got so angry I was just trying to have a conversation and see if this product is legit lmaoDbol at 5-10mg like I listed above was and still in some places is prescribed as hrt long-term for LIFE. Rad 140, non toxic. Anavar has studies showing 30mg or less has little to no toxicity
AND msten is more hepatoxic then dbol mg vs. mg.
25msten is more toxic then 25dbol
10-15msten is going to do very little for building muscle
Your question, no, no1 seems to know that brand
You don't know what your talking about when it comes to steroids and toxicity, and I'm done trying to help you. Which I'm sure you don't care so peace out
I've heard of them but don't see their msten available anywhere.If going that route just get brawn Msten
Not even slightly angry, and not a expert, it's just widely known common knowledge that you don't seem to know. But shame on me for trying to help someone who didn't ask for my help. Good luckOkay peace Mr. steroid expert. Maybe one day I can be as enlightened as you. Sorry that you got so angry I was just trying to have a conversation and see if this product is legit lmao
Scientific studies and people's anecdotal experiences would disagree with you on this.Rad 140, non toxic.
Well it seemed like you were kinda trying to help me at first but then you started getting mad and insulting me and rage quit the conversation.Not even slightly angry, and not a expert, it's just widely known common knowledge that you don't seem to know. But shame on me for trying to help someone who didn't ask for my help. Good luck
At no point was I mad, this is the internet. There is no situation ever where some person I have never met in real life is going to make me angry.Well it seemed like you were kinda trying to help me at first but then you started getting mad and insulting me and rage quit the conversation.
posting boring studies.....a really stupid user name......and location says earth? hmmmmmmmm???Scientific studies and people's anecdotal experiences would disagree with you on this.
A First-in-Human Phase 1 Study of a Novel Selective Androgen Receptor Modulator (SARM), RAD140, in ER+/HER2- Metastatic Breast Cancer - PubMed
RAD140 is a novel oral AR-targeted agent for the treatment of AR+/ER+/HER2- mBC with an acceptable safety profile and preliminary evidence of target engagement and antitumor activity.pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
"Twenty-two (21 AR+) heavily pretreated mBC patients were enrolled. Dose levels included 50 mg (n = 6), 100 mg (n = 13), and 150 mg (n = 3) once daily (QD). Most frequent (> 10%) treatment-emergent adverse events (TEAEs) were elevated AST (59.1%), ALT (45.5%), and total blood bilirubin (27.3%), and vomiting, dehydration, and decreased appetite and weight (27.3% each)."
elevated AST, ALT more than 3x the reference range after 3 weeks on 10mg rad140 when OP says post cycle bloodwork showed everything was fine
https://www.reddit.com/r/sarmssourcetalk/comments/nkb5wa
Bro this study is the one where they gave 21 WOMEN with breast cancer previously unheard of doses in humans of Rad140 for the treatment of their cancer, AND still found the risk/benefit worthwhile in the results.Scientific studies and people's anecdotal experiences would disagree with you on this.
A First-in-Human Phase 1 Study of a Novel Selective Androgen Receptor Modulator (SARM), RAD140, in ER+/HER2- Metastatic Breast Cancer - PubMed
RAD140 is a novel oral AR-targeted agent for the treatment of AR+/ER+/HER2- mBC with an acceptable safety profile and preliminary evidence of target engagement and antitumor activity.pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
"Twenty-two (21 AR+) heavily pretreated mBC patients were enrolled. Dose levels included 50 mg (n = 6), 100 mg (n = 13), and 150 mg (n = 3) once daily (QD). Most frequent (> 10%) treatment-emergent adverse events (TEAEs) were elevated AST (59.1%), ALT (45.5%), and total blood bilirubin (27.3%), and vomiting, dehydration, and decreased appetite and weight (27.3% each)."
I actually never told him to use rad140 or anything. I have a hypothetical cycle that covered all the bases just trying to show a option for someone who doesn't want to inject.Bro this study is the one where they gave 21 WOMEN with breast cancer previously unheard of doses in humans of Rad140 for the treatment of their cancer, AND still found the risk/benefit worthwhile in the results.
150 fucking milligrams per day to women who were dying, for months.
In the end, if you read the entire study, beyond the abstract, 50mg was generally considered well-tolerated by most of the women. 20-30mg in a 200lb man for 8-12 weeks isn’t going to represent a longterm risk for most. And that’s also why you pull bloodwork during blasts lasting longer than that, to ensure things on the inside are as tolerable as how you feel on the outside. As well as monitoring blood pressure periodically.
I’m not telling you to use anything you don’t like, but you’re posting studies disproving your argument.
Also, I haven’t heard anything good or bad on that product in your OG post. Good luck though!
Honestly I have used a huge variety of orals, loads of the designers over the generations and many traditional ones. Msten was far and away the harshest one I ever took. Worse than M1T at 21mg easily. But the Msten was Antaeus Ultradrol, which was reported to be contaminated with some Superdrol, so that could have factored in. When I was taking 20-24mg, things were alright, but 32mg my piss turned a dark brown and BP shot up to 150 over 90 at the doctors. Only weighing like 220 or something, not like from being too heavy.I just don't understand the reasoning behind worrying about liver toxicity and then wanting to use a highly toxic prohormone/designer steroid.
The reason these designers like sten, dmz, SD ect never made it to the medical field was that there too toxic, too many side effects. That says a lot seeing how dbol, anadrol and anavar are all acceptable for the medical field
I believe it, I never had issues with it but you are definitely not the first person to tell me that msten was rough. I've heard plenty of stories similar to yours. I have a love hate relationship with these designers because while I don't seem to get the negative side effects from them, I also seem to require higher then normal doses to get the results. So why bother dumping my pockets on 40mg msten daily with who knows what issues it's causing long term when I can take 50mg anadrol or var ect for half the price with no visible sides. Or i can just skip the orals completely and use them in little 2 week bursts to bust through a sticking point or look my best "temporarily" at leastHonestly I have used a huge variety of orals, loads of the designers over the generations and many traditional ones. Msten was far and away the harshest one I ever took. Worse than M1T at 21mg easily. But the Msten was Antaeus Ultradrol, which was reported to be contaminated with some Superdrol, so that could have factored in. When I was taking 20-24mg, things were alright, but 32mg my piss turned a dark brown and BP shot up to 150 over 90 at the doctors. Only weighing like 220 or something, not like from being too heavy.
Yep, I’ll take the tried, tested, and safer route of Anavar or Anadrol all day long over designers.Lately I can find 25mg var or 50mg Abombs 100 count for $60
Last place I saw msten it was $40 for 10mg 30 count liquid
Just out of curiosity, why would you recommend this as an oral only cycle? I’m kinda interested lol.Dbol 5-10mg
Rad 140 15-20mg
Anavar or lgd4033 20-40mg.
8 weeks
Nolvadex/tamoxifen 20mg
Exemestane on hand
4 weeks
I'm not necessarily reccomendeing anything, but here's reason that something like this would be a better option for a oral cycle. And I'm pretty sure I already explained all this.Just out of curiosity, why would you recommend this as an oral only cycle? I’m kinda interested lol.
From time to time I run across (good-looking) sites that offer a bunch of practically impossible to find stuff.I’m fairly certain of the site you found that on. The product was discontinued about 6 years ago like @Smont said. The site has one or two more PH/DS that as far as I can tell have been discontinued for years. If you decide to risk it keep us posted. There’s far more legit sources if you look a little harder.
The maker of Medfit just got sentenced to prison and fined a lot of money.I’ve seen the bottle online…Never heard anything good or bad about it…Now Medfits Winswole is legit af! Try and find some of that…
thanks for the update starscream i know you were always on top of that stuffThe maker of Medfit just got sentenced to prison and fined a lot of money.
All pf these big companies that we thought were slightly under the radar keep getting busted eventually.
It's just years later
I purchased a bottle from my local nutrition shop, and I want to break down the chemical compound in this specific brand so people can understand what they’re really looking at. With Sten 10 by DNA. The bottle says the compound is 2,17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androst-1-en-3-oneLooking to pick up some msten and not source about sources. I stumbled upon these DNA Stenadrol 10 Msten pills. Has anyone ever heard of these or know if they are legit?
I purchased a bottle from my local nutrition shop, and I want to break down the chemical compound in this specific brand so people can understand what they’re really looking at. With Sten 10 by DNA. The bottle says the compound is 2,17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androst-1-en-3-oneNobody ever heard of this?
The guy is in jail now I believe but damn Medfit Rx had some good stuff. They made some stupid products where they stacked a bunch of DS and SARMS but their single products like Winswole were incredible. I only have 1 bottle left of Medfit Rx and it's their M1A. I almost don't want to use it because I'll be sad to see it go.I’ve seen the bottle online…Never heard anything good or bad about it…Now Medfits Winswole is legit af! Try and find some of that…
They either purposely listed the structure incorrectly, or accidentally did.I purchased a bottle from my local nutrition shop, and I want to break down the chemical compound in this specific brand so people can understand what they’re really looking at. With Sten 10 by DNA. The bottle says the compound is 2,17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androst-1-en-3-one
this chemical compound is similar to Methylstenbolone and to DMZ as well. it looks like they combined the two together from what the chemical structure looks like. I personally took it for one month and found it to be very mild, with minimal side effects.
Methylstenbolone chemical structure is; 2-17a-dimethyl-5a-androsta-1-en-17b-ol-3-one
DMZ chemical structure is; 17b-hydroxy 2a,17b-dimethyl 5a-androstan3-on azine
if you compare these two chemical structures to what is supposed to be in Stenadrol 10, it looks like they combined the two together. (Stenadrol 10) 2,17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androst-1-en-3-one.
To conclude I can’t tell if this is a water down version of real Methylstenbolone or if they rewrote the chemical structure to legally sell it? with all this said, just wondering what other people’s opinions are on it now!?
Pretty much no1 fakes dbol. It's dirt cheapI can’t find legit Dbol anywhere
definatley good to go.Amino asylum has msten. Looks like pretty decent pricing. Discount code bell20 I found on YouTube
I actually paid 50 for 10mg 30ml last time but was worth it to me Beacuse I knew it was legit. Well I did use a coupon so it was somewhat cheaper. But yeah I agree msten seems pretty expensive now a days and definatley easier to find dbol or drol cheap. Especially expensive for me because I ran it at 30-40mgs for six weeks. Lol I could of probably bought 6 months worth of dbol for the same money.Lately I can find 25mg var or 50mg Abombs 100 count for $60
Last place I saw msten it was $40 for 10mg 30 count liquid
I've used aa trest ace, raloxifiene, and rad 140. All legit. When I used the msten I was just using 5mgs of trest at the time if I remember right. Actually it was injectable rad/trest and msten 30-40mgs last six weeks.What are you cycling
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