DarthGainer
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I know all the press and so on with Craze but simple question for those guys with more knowledge than myself. Is taking Craze any more dangerous than taking ECA or DMAA . Serious question not trolling.
^Hiring reps like these, who needs enemies?craze is fine.... lots of haters in industry
Lol yea it's all a witch hunt. Matt Cahill is a family man and a good bro after all. He's innocent as innocent can be.........craze is fine.... lots of haters in industry
no one is saying the dude is sly free but the man accusing him is notorious for this non sense. When people need rehab for this stuff or getting back horrible results from ct scans is the day you know that craze is truly harmful. Just like dmaa, it is not that big of an issue if consumed properly.Lol yea it's all a witch hunt. Matt Cahill is a family man and a good bro after all. He's innocent as innocent can be.........
Lmao, so a professional athlete failing a drug screening and in a result can't compete or is suspended is not a big deal? It's also highly illegal to put any ingredient in a product that is not stated on the label, you know, like the methamphetamine analog Cahill used.no one is saying the dude is sly free but the man accusing him is notorious for this non sense. When people need rehab for this stuff or getting back horrible results from ct scans is the day you know that craze is truly harmful. Just like dmaa, it is not that big of an issue if consumed properly.
^Does this guy still work for PES?no one is saying the dude is sly free but the man accusing him is notorious for this non sense. When people need rehab for this stuff or getting back horrible results from ct scans is the day you know that craze is truly harmful. Just like dmaa, it is not that big of an issue if consumed properly.
Oh dear. Okay I see your point but please see mine. I will spare you the links to what im about to tell you and condense the info.Lmao, so a professional athlete failing a drug screening and in a result can't compete or is suspended is not a big deal? It's also highly illegal to put any ingredient in a product that is not stated on the label, you know, like the methamphetamine analog Cahill used.
And what vandetta does dr elsohly have with ds again? He has already stated that he will back his findings in a court of law. Seems odd that he would risk destroying his reputation and possibly going to prison for nothing.
But keep on supporting Cahill, you know, the man who has already gone to jail in the past for killing one of his customers.
Your point is nonsensical because the amphetamine-like compound wasn't on the label.My point? The governing body of the sports has a drug ban list. Anything that is not on that list is fair game. Pure stupidity to take a precursor to amphetamine without making sure its not on the ban list. Yes...metabolites of amphetamine are on the ban list. For mentioned person should have taken their career more seriously.
I believe it was the designer stimulant on the label. If it was not then I apologize but I do wonder why you would risk your career with a new preworkout. Atleast wait a couple months before trying it to see what others say about it. Also in alot of governing bodys too high a caffeine content can disqualify you too.Your point is nonsensical because the amphetamine-like compound wasn't on the label.
I agree with you in principle, although the compound-in-question was definitely not on the label. If it was, Cahill would have been locked up years ago.I believe it was the designer stimulant on the label. If it was not then I apologize but I do wonder why you would risk your career with a new preworkout. Atleast wait a couple months before trying it to see what others say about it. Also in alot of governing bodys too high a caffeine content can disqualify you too.
A ton of people started threads on multiple forums because they had adverse effectsWhile I don't particularly like craze I haven't heard of any real adverse effects
QFTA ton of people started threads on multiple forums because they had adverse effects
That same athlete Is and will continue to use performance enhancing drugs, only reason he or she got busted was cause they didn't know they were using something like that when tested.Lmao, so a professional athlete failing a drug screening and in a result can't compete or is suspended is not a big deal?
I have read studies that says Heroin and IV opiates are not dangerous if used responsibly.Thanks guys.Lets not turn this into a Matt Cahill thread though please. I just really want to know if its a dangerous product even if used responsibly. I never had a problem with ECA or DMAA but good lord the crash from DMAA was unreal. I never get a crash with craze.
I agree. I have just read articles saying the APAP is more harmful to the body than the synthetic opiates with which it is combined. The naturals are supposed to be even cleaner so to speak. The primary health risk is infection at IV site.As a recovered opiate addict I've gotta say Iv opiates cannot be used responsibly
Cricket. He's funny. Wonder how many stadiums here in the us are getting filled with cricket games.I don't understand how anyone can make an educated statement that all professional athletes are using some form of PEDs.
Sure, there is prevalent use in some sports but out of interest how many cricket teams do you know and how confident are you that all of them are taking PEDs?
Cricketer, hence why I've never heard of him.Jesse Ryder is a cricketer hence me using it as the example.
Lmao, so a professional athlete failing a drug screening and in a result can't compete or is suspended is not a big deal? It's also highly illegal to put any ingredient in a product that is not stated on the label, you know, like the methamphetamine analog Cahill used.
And what vandetta does dr elsohly have with ds again? He has already stated that he will back his findings in a court of law. Seems odd that he would risk destroying his reputation and possibly going to prison for nothing.
But keep on supporting Cahill, you know, the man who has already gone to jail in the past for killing one of his customers.
That same athlete Is and will continue to use performance enhancing drugs, only reason he or she got busted was cause they didn't know they were using something like that when tested.
If you believe pro athletes aren't using some form of illegal ped, well, I got some ocean front property in Nevada right next door to the easter bunny an Santa Claus ill sell you.
Jesse Ryder is one of a few who has tested positive for said ingredient and received a suspension.I don't understand how anyone can make an educated statement that all professional athletes are using some form of PEDs.
Sure, there is prevalent use in some sports but out of interest how many cricket teams do you know and how confident are you that all of them are taking PEDs?
USA isn't the only country with sports. Cricket is pretty popular in other countries around the world. Just because it's not at all popular in the USA, doesn't mean it's not popular or loved by other nations.Cricket. He's funny. Wonder how many stadiums here in the us are getting filled with cricket games.
Ny bad, when I think of pro sports, cricket is not it.
Taking my words too seriously. Knew I should of edited it, cause some genius was going to hang on every word.
Where are you getting this figure? 90%? There's no question that in every sport there are bound to be rule breakers, but to make a statement claiming 90% of professional athletes cheat.... I hope you have some data to back your claimSorry, when I think of professional athletes, I don't think of cricket. My bad.
If there is an elite level, I'm sure there are players who are using performance enhancing drugs, and its prob in the 90% still.
Lol bro. Crochet might be fine tooI'll bet the best Bocce Ball players could use Craze no problem. I'll go ahead and say that and horse shoes are the only safe sports from Craze. Outside of that your jimmies will be rustled.
You know most race horses are on PEDs?Lol bro. Crochet might be fine too
Jockeys take the opposite of steroids. It's all about Being small in that sportYou know most race horses are on PEDs?
"1995 poll of 198 sprinters, swimmers, powerlifters and other assorted athletes, most of them U.S. Olympians or aspiring Olympians: You are offered a banned performance-enhancing substance, with two guarantees: 1) You will not be caught. 2) You will win. Would you take the substance?Where are you getting this figure? 90%? There's no question that in every sport there are bound to be rule breakers, but to make a statement claiming 90% of professional athletes cheat.... I hope you have some data to back your claim
performance enhancing drugs are more than steroids. and yes, even jockeys have been caught using ped's.Jockeys take the opposite of steroids. It's all about Being small in that sport
So before there was a strong stance in baseball... 1995 and other sports. Yes there was testing, but not like there is today with actual punishments and more frequent random screenings. Those are hypothetical questions as well. Where's the testing showing these numbers? I'd like to a static saying of all the athletes tested in this one sport, 90% failed for etc etc"1995 poll of 198 sprinters, swimmers, powerlifters and other assorted athletes, most of them U.S. Olympians or aspiring Olympians: You are offered a banned performance-enhancing substance, with two guarantees: 1) You will not be caught. 2) You will win. Would you take the substance?
One hundred and ninety-five athletes said yes; three said no.
Scenario II: You are offered a banned performance-enhancing substance that comes with two guarantees: 1) You will not be caught. 2) You will win every competition you enter for the next five years, and then you will die from the side effects of the substance. Would you take it?
More than half the athletes said yes."
AWARE THAT DRUG TESTING IS A SHAM, ATHLETES SEEM TO RELY MORE THAN EVER ON BANNED PERFORMANCE ENHANCERS
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1009868/index.htm
and that's from 95. with all the advancements in performance enhancing drugs readily available now, well, goes without saying.
Again, 1 athlete in a sport with 1000s of athletes. Show me an actual stat showing that of all athletes tested in a sport, 90% tested positiveone example: lance Armstrong, the most tested athlete in the world, never failed a drug test. finally admitted he's been using ped's his entire career, even when he was a no body. it's what you have to do to be at that level.
if you don't believe, you don't believe it. that's fine. keep the dream alive.
Yup. " small survey" and " random" cases. Did it say in the " study" you posted, how many of those 198 were on peds? And not just " if a genie granted you a wish......one example: lance Armstrong, the most tested athlete in the world, never failed a drug test. finally admitted he's been using ped's his entire career, even when he was a nobody. it's what you have to do to be at that level.
if you don't believe, you don't believe it. that's fine. keep the dream alive.
sorry if that small survey using various athletes isn't enough (im guessing you didn't read the entire article), and the countless random cases of athletes constantly being caught cheating.
1 athlete, never caught, tested more than any other athlete. if this isn't enough proof, he never failed. he's one guy. one. how many more do you think have been doing it?Again, 1 athlete in a sport with 1000s of athletes. Show me an actual stat showing that of all athletes tested in a sport, 90% tested positive
He was caught. The evidence was more than overwhelming. That's why he admitted it after countlessly denying use. And he was striped of his titles and now owes a large sum of money.1 athlete, never caught, tested more than any other athlete. if this isn't enough proof, he never failed. he's one guy. one. how many more do you think have been doing it?
This is my stance. Yes, it is prevalent but people assume the level of prevalence based on their own perception, not on fact or research.Where are you getting this figure? 90%? There's no question that in every sport there are bound to be rule breakers, but to make a statement claiming 90% of professional athletes cheat.... I hope you have some data to back your claim