Companies to look out for in 2017??

[TrainerTone]

Endur3

Yes I know what OL's intra is called lol

 

[TrainerTone]

I used the OG SizeOn but that's it. I'm not a huge fan because I eat a lot of carbs about an hour or so pre workout. Could be worth a look though I'm sure.

I currently use SizeOn and I like it a lot. But I always like trying new and innovative products which seems to be all that OL puts out

 

[ryane87]

Yes I know what OL's intra is called lol

Ahhhh....I took your response as you didn't know they already had one....my bad....lol

 

[TrainerTone]

Ahhhh....I took your response as you didn't know they already had one....my bad....lol

All good my man. At least you were trying to be helpful lol

 

[GiftedNatty]

I currently use SizeOn and I like it a lot. But I always like trying new and innovative products which seems to be all that OL puts out

I agree on that. I'm going to look into the entire lineup other than the hormonal ones over the next year. Tr1umph will be my staple throughout I believe.

 

[TrainerTone]

I agree on that. I'm going to look into the entire lineup other than the hormonal ones over the next year. Tr1umph will be my staple throughout I believe.

Yes I want to keep Tr1umph around for the foreseeable future as well. And I'm definitely doing more and more research on OL. I'll be trying a LOT of their stuff this year

 

[GiftedNatty]

Yes I want to keep Tr1umph around for the foreseeable future as well. And I'm definitely doing more and more research on OL. I'll be trying a LOT of their stuff this year

Keep me updated man. If I enjoy Or1gin I may try and keep it as a staple.

 

[TrainerTone]

Keep me updated man. If I enjoy Or1gin I may try and keep it as a staple.

I definitely will and you do the same

 

[Ricky10]

apple

 

[TrainerTone]

apple

Lol good one but I was referring to supplement companies

 

[djbombsquad]

UGLs don't count. j/k... info?

Pm me. I don't know if we can source company's that are not sponsors here.
I can tell you this much, it has vitamins minerals, aminos, lipids, antioxidants and I love it so far.

 

[VeinNutrition]

See, I wasn't that sold on them when I looked them over. Maybe they will surprise, but everything I have seen is kinda meh or why? lol

Thanks for your feedback! Is there anything in particular we could work on to stand out amongst others and highlight our features? We're a pretty new company and we appreciate all the feedback we can get!

We will say that one area we don't plan on going into is prohormones, SARMs and other OTC anabolic type compounds. At this point in time we don't believe that are any legal ingredients in which the pros outweigh the cons. We think that new compounds that may be developed and effective will be quickly shut down by the DEA/FDA and that the current prohormones laws do not bode well for a line of prohormone SKUs.

From my observations, it seems like a lot of AM members are interested in prohormones and/or anabolic type supplements. We apologize in advance for not being able to supply these type of products. From a brutally honest stand point, we would not be able to stand behind such products we don't believe in - to clarify we do think prohormones and such can be effective in building muscle and mass but we believe the cons outweigh the pros. And while legally we cannot ever condone using controlled substances, it's my personal opinion that steroids paired with ancillaries are far superior, giving more quality gains with lesser sides if done right.

Just wanted to give you and the community a little insight on how we operation and our beliefs. Please let us know your opinions and how we can improve! We think we have a great line of products that we proudly stand behind and would love an opportunity to show you why.

 

[Big_Spaz]

Gaspari has some more new products in the pipeline which I think you guys will really enjoy.

2016 was a tremendous bounce back year, and 2017 should be even better





-Spaz

 

[TrainerTone]

Gaspari has some more new products in the pipeline which I think you guys will really enjoy.

2016 was a tremendous bounce back year, and 2017 should be even better





-Spaz

Agreed, Gaspari came back big time on 2016. Interested in seeing if you guys can keep that momentum going this year

 

[ryane87]

Thanks for your feedback! Is there anything in particular we could work on to stand out amongst others and highlight our features? We're a pretty new company and we appreciate all the feedback we can get!

We will say that one area we don't plan on going into is prohormones, SARMs and other OTC anabolic type compounds. At this point in time we don't believe that are any legal ingredients in which the pros outweigh the cons. We think that new compounds that may be developed and effective will be quickly shut down by the DEA/FDA and that the current prohormones laws do not bode well for a line of prohormone SKUs.

From my observations, it seems like a lot of AM members are interested in prohormones and/or anabolic type supplements. We apologize in advance for not being able to supply these type of products. From a brutally honest stand point, we would not be able to stand behind such products we don't believe in - to clarify we do think prohormones and such can be effective in building muscle and mass but we believe the cons outweigh the pros. And while legally we cannot ever condone using controlled substances, it's my personal opinion that steroids paired with ancillaries are far superior, giving more quality gains with lesser sides if done right.

Just wanted to give you and the community a little insight on how we operation and our beliefs. Please let us know your opinions and how we can improve! We think we have a great line of products that we proudly stand behind and would love an opportunity to show you why.

I know we really appreciate a company that listens to the consumers. My view point from my statements: honestly, just not impressed with the profile of the pre workout. Not really my bag. The why? portion: all the stims in the "intra workout". Stims on top of stims doesn't seem like the best idea. I like that you are trying to think outside the box, but intra workout I want something that fuels my bodies needs, as I train fasted. I don't need more stims in the middle of a session. I will agree a lot of people do worry about the next anabolic and I don't blame you for shying away from that realm. Good luck though, man!

 

[Adizzle1]

Agreed. Also interested to see Performax's noot product that's coming out.

We have the noot launching this month, BCAA shortly behind it and a few other goodies for this year!

 

[TrainerTone]

We have the noot launching this month, BCAA shortly behind it and a few other goodies for this year!

I'm definitely watching for Performax

 

[ELROCK]

OL
Evomuse
BLR
Performax
Scivation (there's a pre around the corner)

IMO, these 5 bring stuff that are innovative, well dosed, worthy and safe.

Yes!

 

[cubsfan815]

We have the noot launching this month, BCAA shortly behind it and a few other goodies for this year!

And another Cubs World Series win?

 

[JPARKS42]

Who has the best gear to order?

Try asking over in the anabolics section. Not trying to be rude but it's better that one of us tells you versus one of the forum Mods. Welcome though! Great place for a plethora of information. Best of luck!

 

[R1balla]

Performax Labs has been rolling out new products recently with more in the works

 

[The_Old_Guy]

I want dsade to add Glycyrrhetinic Acid to EvoMuse's SuperNova.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15894038

 

[ma70]

I want dsade to add Glycyrrhetinic Acid to EvoMuse's SuperNova.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15894038

He has it in EvoMuse Defuse, but maybe he does not want it in supernova because of it's long term effects?

 

[lukinosnake]

I am very exited about new products from BLR, OL, Evomuse.
I am really hoping to find a thermo which really interest me.

I am still waiting for someone to come out with DMAA 25mg caps.

 

[Supercellular]

Top 5 for me:

Hydrapharm
Olympus
Evomuse
Antaeus Labs
DS

 

[money0351]

for everyone who wanted a multi

 

[TrainerTone]

View attachment 144490 for everyone who wanted a multi

I always said PEScience should come out with a multi. Canthe wait to see the profile on this bad boy

 

[Synapsin]

I want dsade to add Glycyrrhetinic Acid to EvoMuse's SuperNova.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15894038

SAN's had it in their topical fatburner for years

 

[Montego1]

Stimul8 Muscle
Stimul8 Pumped
PX Ultra
PX Diuretic

And there is one more soon to be released.... I'd say watch out for those FINAFLEX Freaks

 

[VeinNutrition]

I know we really appreciate a company that listens to the consumers. My view point from my statements: honestly, just not impressed with the profile of the pre workout. Not really my bag. The why? portion: all the stims in the "intra workout". Stims on top of stims doesn't seem like the best idea. I like that you are trying to think outside the box, but intra workout I want something that fuels my bodies needs, as I train fasted. I don't need more stims in the middle of a session. I will agree a lot of people do worry about the next anabolic and I don't blame you for shying away from that realm. Good luck though, man!

Thanks for the insightful feedback! We initially had Aorta as an intra-workout more for the endurance aspect (DMHA is slightly weaker than DMAA but last longer) but now we're going to pivot a little bit. We're going to move it into a PWO category as more of a pump/endurance PWO + add some L-l-citrulline in it. Then position Rupture as our balance of energy and pump balance with a quicker onset, and then finally our upcoming PWO will be a extreme energy + focus blend, so you can see 3 different PWO, but 3 different purposes.

As for our intra-workout, right now it's Transfusion, which is a blend of BCAA + essential amino acids + a carb refueling blend. But we're going to reformulate this soon as well. We're debating if we want to keep a 2:1:1 BCAA blend or go up to a 8:1:1 blend. Theoretically leucine is the "muscle builder" of the BCAAs but there's really not that much research on a 8:1:1 blend, most of the research revolves around a 2:1:1. More may not necessarily mean better if lower amounts of other amino acids limit leucine's effects. We're also thinking about if we want to keep the carbs in the intra. If we did it'd just be cluster dextrin, which we think is a great new carb but at the same time some people who are on a stricter diet want to restrict their carb amounts so an intra with carbs in it may not be the best opinion for them. But I think this is more along the lines of what you're looking for rather than our Aorta product, which is technically more of an preworkout geared towards endurance.

Any other questions, concerns, feedback, please let me know!

 

[The_Old_Guy]

Thanks for the insightful feedback!

As for our intra-workout... we're going to reformulate this soon as well. We're debating if we want to keep a 2:1:1 BCAA blend or go up to a 8:1:1 blend. Theoretically leucine is the "muscle builder" of the BCAAs but there's really not that much research on a 8:1:1 blend, most of the research revolves around a 2:1:1. More may not necessarily mean better if lower amounts of other amino acids limit leucine's effects.

Any other questions, concerns, feedback, please let me know!

Just use all 9 EAA's, since they include the Branched Chained. Leucine doesn't do much if all the other needed "building blocks" aren't available. Other than cost/profit, I can't see why anyone would choose BCAA over EAA?

 

[VeinNutrition]

Just use all 9 EAA's, since they include the Branched Chained. Leucine doesn't do much if all the other needed "building blocks" aren't available. Other than cost/profit, I can't see why anyone would choose BCAA over EAA?

Thanks for your feedback, we definitely will be using all 9 amino acids but we're debating now the BCAA ratio as some people prefer 2:1:1, others 8:1:1, etc but my understanding is that only 2:1:1 has truly been investigated.

 

[ryane87]

Thanks for your feedback, we definitely will be using all 9 amino acids but we're debating now the BCAA ratio as some people prefer 2:1:1, others 8:1:1, etc but my understanding is that only 2:1:1 has truly been investigated.

I think 8:1:1 wouldn't give greater benefits. It seems more like a marketing gimmick. "We have 4 times the leucine, so 4 times the muscle building power...blah blah blah" I know studies take money, but unless it was done in an entirely neutral fashion, you wouldn't get an honest answer.

 

[enraged_chris]

I'd like to throw our hat into the ring as someone to watch. We've just dropped some interesting stuff and have a lot of big plans between InnovaPharm and Precision Research over the next year.

 

[bigsmall]

BLR is the only one and its been that way for quite a while now. All the other ones are copy cats...

 

[Woody]

BLR is the only one and its been that way for quite a while now. All the other ones are copy cats...

It's not nice to lie, ya know.

 

[Synapsin]

Thanks for your feedback, we definitely will be using all 9 amino acids but we're debating now the BCAA ratio as some people prefer 2:1:1, others 8:1:1, etc but my understanding is that only 2:1:1 has truly been investigated.

Inaccurate, you should look into some more bcaa research

 

[thebigt]

I am curious what BPS comes out with...as a long time company that has scratched almost their entire lineup they should have the bankroll to be innovative.

SNS/CEL is another line that doesn't come out with new stuff often, but when they do it is quality-at a reasonable price.

I pray for a multitude of new companies to compete and keep prices down.

 

[NoAddedHmones]

Just use all 9 EAA's, since they include the Branched Chained. Leucine doesn't do much if all the other needed "building blocks" aren't available. Other than cost/profit, I can't see why anyone would choose BCAA over EAA?

Taste. Literally the main reason

 

[bigsmall]

It's not nice to lie, ya know.

I am not lying bud...that's my opinion. If you don't like it, say something that makes sense and is related to the thread.

 

[bb333]

I like PES, I have always considered a serious company.
A short try Prolific, its products I've always liked.
They have products for every eventuality!

I started to love even BLACK LION RESEARCH, few products, but just, alternative by other companies.
I can not wait to learn about new products soon on sale.

What I want in 2017? Certainties, and not taken for a ride!
People, open your eyes!

 

[Woody]

I am not lying bud...that's my opinion. If you don't like it, say something that makes sense and is related to the thread.

Okay. No company is copying anything BLR produces. That's not even a valid opinion.

OL copies BLR? Not even close. Unless you're considering Ep1c a copy of Follidrone. But wait. Didn't Evomuse come out with Epi before BLR? So... who's the copycat again???
Evomuse copies BLR? See above.
Performax copies BLR? Nope.
PES copies BLR? Nope.
Sciviation copies BLR? BLR doesn't even have a BCAA BUT DAMNIT THEYRE COPYING BLR!!!!

Need I keep going ? If you want to shill then go ahead... I mean we all know your opinion is worthless and probably bought by the company you support. But this is about the dumbest thing I've seen posted on this forum since FD2 is better for erections than viagra.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

MuscleForce. Haven't heard about them til this year but their preworkout and Nootropic/NO-booster is legit

Strong first post. The "MF" in your name wouldn't happen to stand for "MuscleForce" would it?

I don't want to be "that guy" but their description of Obedient, their Nootropic/Pump product, says "The First clinically dosed Nootropic Pump Pre Workout Formula!" and includes:

-200mg ALCAR
-250mg Choline Bitartrate
-250mg L-Tyrosine

None of those even approach "clinical doses." The 20mg Noopept is nice though.

 

[thebigt]

Strong first post. The "MF" in your name wouldn't happen to stand for "MuscleForce" would it?

I don't want to be "that guy" but their description of Obedient, their Nootropic/Pump product, says "The First clinically dosed Nootropic Pump Pre Workout Formula!" and includes:

-200mg ALCAR
-250mg Choline Bitartrate
-250mg L-Tyrosine

None of those even approach "clinical doses." The 20mg Noopept is nice though.

wow-very strong post#247912...you should post more often!!!:jester:

 

[bigsmall]

Okay. No company is copying anything BLR produces. That's not even a valid opinion.

OL copies BLR? Not even close. Unless you're considering Ep1c a copy of Follidrone. But wait. Didn't Evomuse come out with Epi before BLR? So... who's the copycat again???
Evomuse copies BLR? See above.
Performax copies BLR? Nope.
PES copies BLR? Nope.
Sciviation copies BLR? BLR doesn't even have a BCAA BUT DAMNIT THEYRE COPYING BLR!!!!

Need I keep going ? If you want to shill then go ahead... I mean we all know your opinion is worthless and probably bought by the company you support. But this is about the dumbest thing I've seen posted on this forum since FD2 is better for erections than viagra.

Well I am 49 and FD2 works as well as Viagra for my erections. And many others have reported the same. Who cares what you think. Have you tried FD2 or maybe 'your not allowed' lol. I live in Canada and am not associated with any companies. I use OL products btw and nearly everything they have produced. - none of which they created, just copied. But they are good quality and priced right. For one, BLR will be making current pre-workouts obsolete shortly just to name one. Are you following their research and release plan?

 

[muscleupcrohn]

There's more than one quality company out there, which is great for consumers. Competition keeps prices down and encourages innovation. Some people like certain products or formulation philosophies better than others, so it's good that there's more than one company out there.

 

[bigsmall]

There's more than one quality company out there, which is great for consumers. Competition keeps prices down and encourages innovation. Some people like certain products or formulation philosophies better than others, so it's good that there's more than one company out there.

Now that is how a rep should rep.

 

[Woody]

lol....I live in Canada and am not associated with any companies. I use OL products - none of which they created, but they are good quality and priced right. Please learn to relax dude....your mostly wrong with everything you said, but who f*(kin cares. For one, BLR will be making current pre-workouts obsolete shortly just to name one. Are you following BLR research or just shooting your idiot mouth off? I sure would not want a tit like you representing my company lol....your fired.

Where you live is irrelevant to your association with a brand.
I'm not wrong with anything I said which is why you have no direct rebuttal. YOU'RE speaking in generalities and abstracts.
You sure do seem to have a lot of inside knowledge about BLR to have no association. Either way, another pre on the market will be good but it won't make every pre on the market obsolete.

 

[Woody]

Well I am 49 and FD2 works as well as Viagra for my erections. And many others have reported the same. Who cares what you think. Have you tried FD2 or maybe 'your not allowed' lol. I live in Canada and am not associated with any companies. I use OL products btw and nearly everything they have produced. - none of which they created, just copied. But they are good quality and priced right. For one, BLR will be making current pre-workouts obsolete shortly just to name one. Are you following their research and release plan?

Really? Who did OL copy ignite from? Origin? Bloodshr3d? Who else uses phytofuse? Elixir? Triumph? Don't see any BCAA/EAA like ours. Please, tell me who we copied these from. Don't worry, I'll wait.

 

[Darkhorse192]

anything evomuse

also

controlled labs
purus
core nutritionals
centurion