COMING SOON: Bulk X-Factor

[Wedgylx]

It won't work for just any bulk powder since Penetrate is a lipophilic carrier.

Thats why my transdermal WPI hasn't been eliciting results??!?!?

:jaw: :icon_lol:

Just kidding

 

[dsade]

Thats why my transdermal WPI hasn't been eliciting results??!?!?

:jaw: :icon_lol:

Just kidding

HAHA...that could be it. I tried to run a Transdermal Strap...got nothing.

 

[Rodja]

What is the molecular weight of AA?

 

[dsade]

What is the molecular weight of AA?

Looks like around 305.

 

[Rodja]

Looks like around 305.

Hmmm, the cut-off is usually 300 correct?

I know that DMSO helps out here, but is there really an advantage to trans AA?

 

[dsade]

Hmmm, the cut-off is usually 300 correct?

I know that DMSO helps out here, but is there really an advantage to trans AA?

IMO, cutoff is much higher. I have seen indicators of compounds as high as 800 making it past the Stratum corneum.

300 is plenty small enough. I had toyed with a design similar to this, using the Absolved/abliderate carrier for a localized muscle builder ala Sytenhance, but non-hormonal. I never had access to acceptable material, though.

 

[Rodja]

IMO, cutoff is much higher. I have seen indicators of compounds as high as 800 making it past the Stratum corneum.

300 is plenty small enough. I had toyed with a design similar to this, using the Absolved/abliderate carrier for a localized muscle builder ala Sytenhance, but non-hormonal. I never had access to acceptable material, though.

So, in theory, you could make a localized growth carrier a la Systenhance using the carrier with AA?? Very interesting...

Are there any plans to further develop this idea/theory?

 

[dsade]

So, in theory, you could make a localized growth carrier a la Systenhance using the carrier with AA?? Very interesting...

Are there any plans to further develop this idea/theory?

It's possible...that is why I was wondering if anyone wanted to try it out.

Side benefit is that it might avoid some of the negative systemic effects peoplle are worried about.

 

[John Smeton]

Dsade have you saw this? What do you think of this? Does it cause inflamation after yiur done it or do you have to have a pre existing condistion or both? I was going to put some in my cart intill I found this two people in this thread reported the same effect http://blog.bodybuilding.com/bjrboss/2006/12/10/warning-x-factor-is-dangerous/

 

[rpen22]

The dude said he has ulcerative colitis. I don't know why you would take anything pro-inflammatory if you know for a fact that you have an inflammatory disease.

 

[dsade]

The dude said he has ulcerative colitis. I don't know why you would take anything pro-inflammatory if you know for a fact that you have an inflammatory disease.

I think this best answers your concerns.

If you have preexisting conditions that are aggravated by pro-infammatories, then the last thing you want to take is something that increases the inflammatory reaction.

 

[Wedgylx]

HAHA...that could be it. I tried to run a Transdermal Strap...got nothing.

LOL, darn I thought that was my ticket to the Olympia.

Transdermal AA sounds like an interesting idea. This would be localized though, which I'm not sure about.

For example, back day will elicit some difficulties in application.

Also the skin on the back, shoulders is thicker than most other parts of the body, correct?

 

[John Smeton]

OK Well I was Overthinking than.

 

[dsade]

LOL, darn I thought that was my ticket to the Olympia.

Transdermal AA sounds like an interesting idea. This would be localized though, which I'm not sure about.

For example, back day will elicit some difficulties in application.

Also the skin on the back, shoulders is thicker than most other parts of the body, correct?

It would be more focused on bringing up weak points.

 

[John Smeton]

It would be more focused on bringing up weak points.

Good I could use some of this than!

 

[warbird01]

Gimme half off and ill do it

 

[curls4gurls]

Who's going to be the first to get some Penetrate and run transdermal X-Factor?

What dose would be required per day to match oral? What would you recommend? I might give it a go if you give me all the details and save me from having research through this massive thread

 

[Cellardude]

What dose would be required per day to match oral? What would you recommend? I might give it a go if you give me all the details and save me from having research through this massive thread

500g = 50grams of AA/X-Factor

This means basically 10G per day for 50 days.

The bulk X-factor is 10% concentration while the soft gels are 40% I believe.

Also, Dosages work like this 10g divided 4-3 times per day depending on day.

Example:
Workout day dosage:
2.5g or 1 soft gel with food
5g or 2 soft gels pre workout
2.5g or 1 soft gel at night or afternoon meals.

Non workout day dosage:
2.5g split up evenly 4 times.


Thats how I would do it or I usually do it. Remember to avoid certian foods to get the best results. Dosage may be different depending on if you decide to mega dose (aka buy 2 500g of bulk X-Factor) you can play around with it but 2 soft gels or 5g pre work out is typical.

Also you can find useful info on how to mix your bulk AA because capping it is very inconvient. (15 capsules per day due to low concentration I believe)

You can mix and match around but here's an experiment that dsade whipped up.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/nutraplanet/76336-bulk-x-factor.html

Hope this helps. Best of luck

 

[curls4gurls]

500g = 50grams of AA/X-Factor

This means basically 10G per day for 50 days.

The bulk X-factor is 10% concentration while the soft gels are 40% I believe.

Also, Dosages work like this 10g divided 4-3 times per day depending on day.

Example:
Workout day dosage:
2.5g or 1 soft gel with food
5g or 2 soft gels pre workout
2.5g or 1 soft gel at night or afternoon meals.

Non workout day dosage:
2.5g split up evenly 4 times.


Thats how I would do it or I usually do it. Remember to avoid certian foods to get the best results. Dosage may be different depending on if you decide to mega dose (aka buy 2 500g of bulk X-Factor) you can play around with it but 2 soft gels or 5g pre work out is typical.

Also you can find useful info on how to mix your bulk AA because capping it is very inconvient. (15 capsules per day due to low concentration I believe)

You can mix and match around but here's an experiment that dsade whipped up.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/nutraplanet/76336-bulk-x-factor.html

Hope this helps. Best of luck

Thanks mate - very helpful!

But what about if I turn it into a transdermal like dsade suggests? What amount of bulk F-factor could I dissolve into Penetrate (http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/385/penetrate-8oz.html), and how many ml per day would I need to use?

Just trying to figure out if there's actually any point doing it transdermally...

Thanks

 

[Cellardude]

Thanks mate - very helpful!

But what about if I turn it into a transdermal like dsade suggests? What amount of bulk F-factor could I dissolve into Penetrate (http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/385/penetrate-8oz.html), and how many ml per day would I need to use?

Just trying to figure out if there's actually any point doing it transdermally...

Thanks

I think that wouldn't be very convient. It hasnt been tried, it's a theory as of now. 8oz of penetrate would not dissolve 500g of AA my friend. you would need like soooo many bottles of them to just run 1 cycle. It would be more expensive than the soft gels which basically defeats the whole purpose.

 

[nelix]

Transdermal might be doable with 100% AA already suspended in something...

 

[asianbabe]

Okay who's using this? Dosage, how you've been taking it and effects so far please? I'm curious to try this out.

 

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