Big boy needs to strip out, here's the plan, plz review and critique.

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Last weeks "Tale of the tape" had me at 299. This morning I came in at 295.6 but really only count Tuesday's weekly weigh in.

Also, I shifted to moderate carbs (trying for 200 or less a day) and bumped fat intake target to about 130). Lifts have been going to crap lately, may switch back and just worry about overall calories and protein intake if this keeps up. Also, if you missed it, pulled a hammy Friday :(, so I am changing me routine for the next few weeks to let it heal.

Thanks for popping in Flex :biggthumpup:
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I had a read through your posts and one thing I noticed as far as your nutrition is concerned is your relatively high sodium intake. Have you measured it? I noticed ham, canned chicken and a few other processed foods in there. Do you prepare any meals ahead of time? I often cook steaks or chicken then slice them up and put them on salads in containers. I weigh everything so I know the exact macronutrient breakdown.

I like how you're lowering your carbohydrate intake also and increasing your fats. Don't shy away from saturated fats either. They play an important part, especially if your goal is fat loss. Personally, if I was in your situation, I would take a caveman approach. That is, if you can't pick it or kill it, don't eat it. Obviously it would be harder to get your desired calorie intake for the day, so this is where adding olive oil/coconut oil to the diet (over salads, in shakes etc.) would be beneficial.

The fat loss would be much more dramatic, you'll see it in the mirror and on the scales.
 
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I had a read through your posts and one thing I noticed as far as your nutrition is concerned is your relatively high sodium intake. Have you measured it? I noticed ham, canned chicken and a few other processed foods in there. Do you prepare any meals ahead of time? I often cook steaks or chicken then slice them up and put them on salads in containers. I weigh everything so I know the exact macronutrient breakdown.

I like how you're lowering your carbohydrate intake also and increasing your fats. Don't shy away from saturated fats either. They play an important part, especially if your goal is fat loss. Personally, if I was in your situation, I would take a caveman approach. That is, if you can't pick it or kill it, don't eat it. Obviously it would be harder to get your desired calorie intake for the day, so this is where adding olive oil/coconut oil to the diet (over salads, in shakes etc.) would be beneficial.

The fat loss would be much more dramatic, you'll see it in the mirror and on the scales.
Appreciate the input. Yeah, my sodium is way high, but as long as my blood pressure and glucose stay in check, I am not going to worry too much about it.

The only thing that holds me back from going full blown keto is concerns about my cholesterol spiking. At this point, I am content with 4-5 pounds a week and still (for the most part) progressing with my lifts.
 
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Name: Day 1, wk 5
Start Time: 01:45 PM
End Time: 02:50 PM
Duration: 01:05
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Mood: Normal - Not Great But Not Bad
Notes: Bench work seems to be going to snot

# Exercise Name Set Lbs. Reps

1 Barbell Bench Press - Medium Grip
#1 245 6
#2 245 4
#3 225 6
#4 225 8

2 Decline Dumbbell Bench Press
#1 160 10
#2 160 8
80X2=160

3 Butterfly
#1 100 12
#2 120 12
(on Nautilus Pec Dec)

4 Close-Grip Bench Press
#1 155 12
#2 155 11
#3 155 9

5 Triceps Pushdown - Rope Attachment
#1 115 12
#2 130 9
#3 130 8

6 2 Hand OH DB Ext
#1 85 6
#2 85 6
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Today's dietary info: 2738 cals (179 carbs, 229 protein, 116 fats) estimated output of 4498 for a deficit of 1760.

As to yesterday, I made a V-tines day meal for the wife of Penne Pasta with Garlic Herb Shrimp (with butter and olive oil) and fresh baked bread and Shrimp ****tail, have no idea how to count it, but am sure it was loaded with both carbs and fat (and of course lots of protein). So if Tuesday's weigh in disappoints, I will look back to that day and hopefully learn a lesson.
 
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Just cardio tonight, tried to kick it upa bit though. Did 15 20/40 HIIT Cycles, kicking for 200+ SPM, this time at 40% and 60% resistance for 178 cals.

Dietary info: 2596 cals (200 carbs, 220 protein, 96 fats) with an estimated output of 3896 for a deficit of 1300. Tomorrow, we weigh in an report again, then back and delt work out after work.
 
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Today's weigh in number is 292 even, down another 2.2 pounds, 30 total in, what is it now, 6 0r 7 weeks. Not bad, not bad at all
 
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Brilliant! Keep it up, mate.
Plan on it, thanks Buzz.

Feb 15, 2011
Name: Day 2, wk 5 (Day 49 of strip out)
Start Time: 04:30 PM
End Time: 05:40 PM
Duration: 01:10
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Mood: Energized and Ready!
Notes: Started off with 5 minute cardio warm up, finished with 10X 30/30 HIIT at 40%/60% resistance busting for 200 SPM. Was gonna stop at 8, but when I got there said "I got 2 more in me at least". Pushed it hard.

# Exercise Name Set Lbs. Reps

1 Assisted Pull up
#1 227 6
#2 227 7
#3 232 6
#4 232 6
Noted weight is body weight + clothes (estimate 297) minus assist weight.

2 Lying T-Bar Row
#1 145 6
#2 145 6
#3 145 5

3 Seated Cable Rows
#1 200 10
#2 200 9
Using "V" bar attachment

4 Barbell Shoulder Press
#1 175 12
#2 175 12
#3 175 10

5 Standing Low-Pulley Deltoid Raise (Cable Lateral Raise)
#1 30 8
#2 30 8
#3 20 12
#4 20 12
Odd sets are left hand, even sets are right

6 Barbell Incline Shoulder Raise
#1 30 12
#2 30 12
Today's dietary info:2846 cals (208 carb, 219 Protein, 128 fat) with an estimated out put of 4622 for a deficit of 1776 . (My belly must have been feeling patriotic today, and if you don't catch the referrence, please pick up a damn U.S. History book )
 

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After about 12 years of getting away from the iron and letting my self go, I got back at it in May of this year. In the mean time, I developed some significant health issues including Type II Diabetes, Peripheral Artery Disease (PAD) and Hypertension, all of which can and are helped by, you guessed it, resistance training.

I have now been lifting heavy since May, tracking my intake on Calorie Count etc also. For the longest time, I hung around 282-285 but could tell that I was getting leaner based on my appearance and waist size. I did what I could with the PAD for cardio work (mostly walking and peddling) but have recently discovered that I can do some HIIT work on elipticals. (Have been running 20/40 for 5-6 cycles plus warm ups on upper body days, 15/30 for about 4 cycles on leg days.)

I know that some may call this BS, but I swear it is the truth. Over the last month, I have shot up to 315 with only some minor fat gain (can take my heavy belt to the 7th notch instead of the 8th for heavy sets of squat/dead lifts.) However, a few significant things occurred in that time:

1) I quit smoking 11/5/10;

2) I switched to an honest to goodness gym with a real weight room instead of the local hospitals "Healthfit" Center that I had outgrown;

3) I came out of about 5+ months of caloric deficit (Had been running about 2700-3k daily with a few "less disciplined" days here and there, but kept it pretty tight.

(Also, my PCP switched me to Januvia for the diabetes in early November, I wonder if there is a connection?)

At some point about 2 weeks ago, I said "F it", "if my body wants to pack it on, then so be it" and resolved myself to a mass building cycle. I have been making steady gains in my major lifts and this is what keeps me happy and motivated. Anyways, the 2nd part of that resolution was that I would become focused on stripping out after the holidays. ( I mean 315, really, this boy has gotta burn some fat now!)

Here in essence is my plan:

Continue with my four day split (Upper day 1, Lower Day 2, Day off 3, Upper Day 4, lower day 5 with 4 sets of 6-8 reps for major muscle groups/compound movements. 3 sets 10-12 reps for smaller groups) and maybe put a little more emphasis on the Cardio by pushing the HIIT to 8 - 10 cycles 20/40 (and start to decrease rest periods as my overall cardiovascular health improves)on upper body days and maybe a bit less on leg days then throw in a 25- 30 minute walk or bike ride in over the weekend.

Cut daily calories to a strict 2700 daily, shooting for at least 250g or so of protein. (This is the part I would really like some feed back on. Is that too limited? I do not want to strip away the mass I have been working for the last few months. What macro ratios should I shoot for? (35/35/30?)

There are a few things that will have to be taken into consideration:

1) Seeing my lifts increase is what motivates me. I have never been and never will be some one who will stick to a "pick up a 15# dumbell and do 25 reps" program.

2) Any Cardio work will have to take into account the PAD which results in pain full cramps due to limited blood flow. I do find that machines that take the weight off of my feet (bikes, elipticals that I can lean on ) can be help full in getting around this. This has improved greatly since I quit smoking, but building this back up will be a process.

I know that my BF estimate on my profile of 18% is likely wrong (based of 3 site measurement caliper) but I doubt that I am above 25%. Even if we were to assume 30% , that still leaves me about 220lbs of lean mass, so I figure that 260 is a good goal weight.

So long story short, I have never really stripped out seriously before ( but do know from my wild child days of addiction that I look sickly below 215) and could really use some input here. Anything from changes in routine, to cardio work to diet or supps.

If you took the time to read this, thanks for your time, and hopefully, thanks for your input.
Hello dear taman, You should have some type's of veggies and have some sort of fruit's and also some kind of green tea.... You should continue you cycle of eating and exercising and you will be succeed in your goal.......... Best of luck...
 
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Name: Day 3, wk 5 (Day 51 of strip out)
Start Time: 05:35 PM
End Time: 06:20 PM
Duration: 00:45
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Mood: Energized and Ready!
Notes: Started out with a 5min warm up


# Exercise Name Set Lbs. Reps

1 Preacher Curl
#1 85 8
#2 85 6
#3 85 6
Using EZ Bar

2 Concentration Curls
#1 30 12
#2 30 12
#3 35 9
#4 35 10
Even sets are right hand, odd sets are right

3 Standing Bicep Cable Curl
#1 120 12
#2 100 10
#3 70 10
#4 20 12
Drop sets 120-100-70-20 X 2
#1 120 10
#2 100 4
#3 70 5
#4 20 10

5 Lying Triceps Press (skull crushers)
#1 85 12
#2 85 12
Using EZ bar

6 Dumbbell One Arm Triceps Extension
#1 35 12
#2 35 12
#3 35 9
#4 35 10
Even sets right, odd sets left

7 Triceps Pushdown
#1 120 12
#2 150 12
Straight bar

Today's dietary totals: 2784 cals (227 carbs (a bit high), 214 protein, fat 117) estimated output of 4281 for a deficit of 1497.
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Looks like everything is going good!! Stay on track and everything will get where it needs to be..I am still keeping up with everything that your putting up. I, myself, have been enjoying my workouts and slowly getting stronger due to my PWO I am taking. I keep looking at your changes and say hey if he can do it so can i.
 
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Thanks Killa, still plugging :)

Feb 18, 2011
Name: Day 4, wk 5 (Day 52 of strip out)
Start Time: 04:20 PM
End Time: 05:25 PM
Duration: 01:05
Mood: Not In The Mood To Workout
Notes: Actually felt half sick tonight. Still nursing the hammy, so like last week, went light and deep with cardio first. 12X 30/30 HIIT cycles hitting 200 SPM at 40% and 60% (114 cals)


# Exercise Name Set Lbs. Reps
1 Barbell Squat
#1 155 10
#2 205 10
#3 245 10
#4 295 8
Went as deep as I could, sat in the hole. so to speak. All sets were with no belt.

2 Leg Press
#1 500 15
#2 500 12
Hammy started to tighten up a bit on 2nd set so I locked out and moved on

3 Leg Extensions
#1 190 10
#2 190 8

Got way off track on the macro's today, carbs to high, protein to low. Not quite sure how it got away from me. Anyways, today's totals: 2537 cals (239 carbs, 146 protein, 117 fats) output of 2537, deficit = 1988)
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Today's dietary info: 2380 cals (141 carb, 182 protein, 144 fats) estimated out put of 3556 for an estimated deficit of 976.
 
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Has not been a great week. Lost a couple of work outs due to company, bad weather etc. Also, only dropped 1.2 pounds this week, weighed in at 290.8 this AM. To many "F It" moments in the diet. So this week, I resolve to regain my discipline. Am also excited about coming off of the hamstring rehab next week, gonna start pulling again but take it slow. Looks like I am only gonna get 3 lifting days this week, that's OK though, 2 grps/day. (Chest/Tri's, Back/Delts, Legs/Bi's)
 
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Name: Day 1, wk 6 (Chest/Tri's)
Start Time: 05:05 PM
End Time: 06:15 PM
Duration: 01:10
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Mood: Normal - Not Great But Not Bad
Notes:

# Exercise Name Set Lbs. Reps

1 Barbell Bench Press - Medium Grip
#1 245 8
#2 245 4
#3 245 5
#4 280 2
#5 225 4
Went better than last week, think I was over training chest. Hit a rack pin on 2nd set, blew my focus. Last set was one rep solo, a slow neg and then a forced rep.

2 Barbell Incline Bench Press - Medium Grip
#1 185 8
#2 185 8
WENT LIGHTER DUE TO PRE-EXHAUSTION

3 Decline Dumbbell Bench Press (80's X 2)
#1 160 8
#2 160 7

4 Close-Grip Bench Press
#1 155 10
#2 155 9

5 Lying Triceps Press
#1 90 9
#2 90 8
Used straight bar tonight.

6 Triceps Pushdown - V-Bar Attachment
#1 140 12
#2 140 12

Today's dietary info: 2738 cals (195 carb, 198 protein, 135 fats) with an estimated output of 4582 for a deficit of 1823. Back on track!
 
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Name: Day 2, wk 6
Start Time: 05:40 PM
End Time: 06:40 PM
Duration: 01:00
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Mood: Normal - Not Great But Not Bad
Notes: was temped to skip cardio tonight so I knocked it out first 12x20/40 cycles at 50%/70% max resistance. 115 calls.

# Exercise Name Set Lbs. Reps
1 Assited Pull Up
#1 235 7
#2 235 5
#3 245 3
#4 140 18
Noted weight is body wt + clothes (est 295) - assist weight

2 Lying T-Bar Row
#1 90 8
#2 135 6
#3 135 5

3 Seated Cable Rows
#1 210 8
#2 210 8
Using V bar
4 Barbell Shoulder Press
#1 185 10
#2 185 9
#3 185 4
#4 135 11

5 Side Lateral Raise
#1 25 10
#2 25 10

Today was my cheat day, so no dietary numbers. Yesterdays intake was 2954 in, around 3700 out.
 
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Name: Day 3, wk 6
Start Time: 04:45 PM
End Time: 05:55 PM
Duration: 01:10
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Mood: Tired
Notes: Tonight marks the end of the hamstring rehab. Went well for the most part, am very pleased.

# Exercise Name Set Lbs. Reps

1 Barbell Squat
#1 315 4
#2 315 4
#3 315 4
#4 365 2
Warm up sets at 135, 185, 225. Went deep as I could (still) no belt first 3 sets. Even went deep the last set. Not sure if I am quite to parallel, but closer than I have ever been in my adult life. Flexibility work is paying off.

2 Romanian Deadlift
#1 135 8
#2 185 8
#3 205 8
Went real light as these are what I ripped my hamstring doing 3 weeks ago.

3 Barbell Curl
#1 80 12
#2 85 12
#3 90 10

4 Two Arm Dumbbell Preacher Curl
#1 25 12
#2 25 12
#3 25 12
#4 25 12
One arm at a time, odd sets are right hand, evens are left.

Tonight's dietary info: 2743 cals (208 carbs, 207 protein, 123 fats) with an estimated output of 4586 for a deficit of 1843.
 
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Name: Day 1, wk 7
Start Time: 03:20 PM
End Time: 04:25 PM
Duration: 01:05
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Mood: Normal - Not Great But Not Bad
Notes: Going back to my old 4 day split now that hammy rehab is over.

# Exercise Name Set Lbs. Reps
1 Barbell Bench Press - Medium Grip
#1 250 4
#2 250 3
#3 250 3
#4 230 6
This week benching went crappy, no fire, no spotter. 5 pounds should not cost me 4 reps. WTF?
2 Bent Over Barbell Row
#1 225 6
#2 225 6
#3 225 3 (grip issues)
#4 225 6
3 Barbell Shoulder Press
#1 180 10
#2 180 7
4 Lying Triceps Press
#1 90 8
#2 90 8
#3 90 11
Skull crushers. Set 2 I transitioned for Crushers to close grip bench for 11 reps (listed as set 3 here)

So far today, diet is estimated as momma made taco's for guests. Seasoned meat (91% lean ground chuck), flour tortilla, chopped vegies (onion, Green peppers, lettuce, black and green olives, tomatos) sour cream and refried beans. Estimated intake today thus far with out supper and pre-bed protein: 2365 (171 carbs, 178 protein, 100 fats) with an estimated output of 4389.
 

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healthfit wtf is the matter with you, the fact you walked in there and saw 100 Year olds working out, and didn't imediatly leave makes me question your sanity.
 
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healthfit wtf is the matter with you, the fact you walked in there and saw 100 Year olds working out, and didn't imediatly leave makes me question your sanity.
LOL, it was a convenient starting point, as I live in a rather small town that lacks a real gym.

This weeks weigh in number is 288.6, down another 2.2 pounds.
 

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still no excuse, you can get weights,bench,bars,etc,etc. Through the want ads for very cheap, how can you face yourself after a "hard core" workout out at healthfit surrounding by old ladies doing light cardio or whatever the **** they do. In those 12 years you my friend lost more than your health, you also lost your manhood.
 
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still no excuse, you can get weights,bench,bars,etc,etc. Through the want ads for very cheap, how can you face yourself after a "hard core" workout out at healthfit surrounding by old ladies doing light cardio or whatever the **** they do. In those 12 years you my friend lost more than your health, you also lost your manhood.
Obviously the place sucked, which is why I am now some where else. Out grew it before my membership was up. Van Wert (Ohio) County YM is "the dungeon" and my new abode. Gig on me about the "healthfit" thing all you want, I think it is funny. At least I got off my ass and got going again, and that is what matters.
 
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You didn't loose anything bro.. you got up and decided to make a difference in your life. It doesnt matter where you lift at all. The fact that a guy is next to me pressing 1000lbs and a 100yr old lady next to me pressing 2lbs isnt going to effect the amount of work I am doing at all. What matters is what you are dong not where you are doing it at. As long as you have the motivation, intensity, dedication and commitment you will achieve your goals no matter where you physcially are.
 
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Name: Day 2, wk 7
Start Time: 05:10 PM
End Time: 06:20 PM
Duration: 01:10
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Mood: Normal - Not Great But Not Bad
Notes: First day dead lifting since I pulled my hammy 3 weeks ago, figured I would take it easy and see how it went. Am pleased overall, will go heavier next weak with no fear!

# Exercise Name Set Lbs. Reps

1 Hack Squat
#1 230 8
#2 280 8
#3 300 8
#4 300 8
Lightened up and went extra deep.

2 Barbell Deadlift
#1 135 10
#2 185 8
#3 225 5
#4 275 5
#5 315 6
All sets done with out belt, am including warm up sets. As I said, wanted to be careful.

3 Leg Press
#1 500 12
#2 500 12
#3 500 12
Sets 2 and 3 were extra deep.

4 Standing Calf Raises
#1 180 12
#2 180 12
#3 180 12

Todays Dietary input 3085 vs 4553 (estimated) output. Deficit of 1468.
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Wednesday, March 2nd Dietary info: 2877 cals (216 carb, 217 pro, 127 fats) with an estimated output of 3704, deficit of 827. Think we are getting near to time for a deload, push through next week and then either lighten up or take a week off of the iron, let the joints heal up a bit.
 
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Name: Day 3, wk 7
Start Time: 05:35 PM
End Time: 06:30 PM
Duration: 00:55
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Mood: Normal - Not Great But Not Bad
Notes:

# Exercise Name Set Lbs. Reps

1 Barbell Incline Bench Press - Medium Grip
#1 205 6
#2 205 5
#3 205 4
#4 205 4
All reps to collarbone.

2 Assisted Pull up
#1 222 8
#2 227 6
#3 232 5
#4 237 4
Noted weight is estimated body weight + clothes (292) - assist weight.

3 Close-Grip Bench Press
#1 185 8
#2 185 8
#3 185 8

4 Barbell Curl
#1 95 8
#2 95 7
#3 95 6

Wrapped things up with some 30/30 HITT for 10 cycles at 50%/70% resistance at 175-180 SPM for 100 cals.

Today's dietary info: 2779 cals, (214 carbs, 226 protein, 113 fats) with an estimated output of 4428 for an estimated deficit of 1649.

Tommorow we start adding some Alpha T2 into the mix, see if that helps.

At the 1/2 way point to my target I know I am not gonna be satisfied with what I see at 260, however, I am starting to get pissed about starting to see my strenght decline (see my bench work in my logs.) Once I hit 260, I may bump my intake up for a while and do a 6 week strength training program I have had good success with before. The last week is 3 sets of double taps at like 97.5% max, is balls to the wall fun of basic compound movements (Squats, deads, bench, OH Press etc) then go back to leaning out a bit more.
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ok this is the plan, 1 bottle of oxy elite pro, pure creatine mono, beta aline, and bulk daa, those will be your supplements. The diet will be palumbo/anabolic, your trainning will be a one on one off split. There will be no ***** workouts, just hardcore balls to the wall trainning. You will do this until goal is reached.:****you:
 
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Name: Day 4, wk 7
Start Time: 04:40 PM
End Time: 05:55 PM
Duration: 01:15



# Exercise Name Set Lbs. Reps

1 Barbell Squat
#1 275 8
#2 325 6
#3 375 4
Still working on improving my depth. Last set tried for 405, had to bail, but got a nice deep neg. Warm up sets of Bar, 135, 185, 225.

2 Romanian Deadlift
#1 225 8
#2 225 8
#3 225 8

3 Leg Extensions
#1 170 12
#2 180 11
#3 180 10

4 Lying Leg Curls
#1 70 12
#2 80 10
#3 80 8

Today's dietary totals: 3010 cals (206 carb, 248 protein, 134 fats) with an estimated output of 4565 for a deficit of 1546.
 
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I hate to break it to you but, you have some serious medical conditions and this is not the place to get advice. You need to speak with a Registered Dietitian, Cardiologist and a good Internal Med Doctor. Also a 12 year break is starting from scratch. Personally as far as diet goes I would tell you that if its white and comes prepackaged its not good for you. Processed foods breakdown to glucose too quickly and the body's response is to increase insulin and quickly. Insulin then stores the glucose as fat. Now the problem your morbidly obese with diabetes your systems are out of whack. Seek the advice of professionals that can help you attain your goals safely.
 
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I hate to break it to you but, you have some serious medical conditions and this is not the place to get advice. You need to speak with a Registered Dietitian, Cardiologist and a good Internal Med Doctor. Also a 12 year break is starting from scratch. Personally as far as diet goes I would tell you that if its white and comes prepackaged its not good for you. Processed foods breakdown to glucose too quickly and the body's response is to increase insulin and quickly. Insulin then stores the glucose as fat. Now the problem your morbidly obese with diabetes your systems are out of whack. Seek the advice of professionals that can help you attain your goals safely.
Ok, I see my PCP every 3 months minimum, have my A1-C and Cholesterol checked. I also discuss all supplement and dietary changes I am considering with him. (Feel free to read the logs where I posted about my last A1-C and Cholesterol numbers were looking good or my Diabetes, HTN aned Cholesterol were all in check.)

I also have ultra sound scans for my PAD and see my cardiovascular Surgeon 2x a year. Both of these QUALIFIED MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS support what I am doing. I have dropped 34 pounds since late Decemberwhile seeing my A1-c drop from 9.1 to 6.3 and my HDL rise while my LDL drops. but some how I need a dietician too?

All of this was covered through my posts (except the cardiovascular surgeon which one could infer from the statement that I had a fem to fem bypass.)

All being equal, I think I will keep doing what has been working for me. Thanks for your concern.
 

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I don't get how you can let yourself go like that, how does one face themselves in the mirror day after day without utter disgust. I say this because at my work, I see these fat middle aged men lumbering around, showing up to the lunch room with a small collection of different meds, for a whole bunch of bull**** health conditions. How the **** do you accept not being sexualy wanted by women old or young. I look at them like I look at you, I'm reffering to your old pics, and say how the **** do you go through life, how the **** do you get through the day. I can't relate as I promised myself I would never, ever let myself go. I would like to know what your mindset was all those years.
 
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Fair enough for the things you have done. If you don't want to go to a dietitian at least go on line and checkout "The Diet Solution" by Isabel De Los Rios. I studied nutrition in college and no one ever broke things down the way she does. She doesn't teach dieting she teaches a lifestyle change. She shows you how to eat the natural way. I was surprised by some to the things I learned in this program. Best of all you can buy her books in PDF form for only $42 and you are e-mailed links as soon as you pay. When I started eating the way she teaches I noticed that I felt better than ever and slept better too.
 
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Fair enough for the things you have done. If you don't want to go to a dietitian at least go on line and checkout "The Diet Solution" by Isabel De Los Rios. I studied nutrition in college and no one ever broke things down the way she does. She doesn't teach dieting she teaches a lifestyle change. She shows you how to eat the natural way. I was surprised by some to the things I learned in this program. Best of all you can buy her books in PDF form for only $42 and you are e-mailed links as soon as you pay. When I started eating the way she teaches I noticed that I felt better than ever and slept better too.
That is something I would be willing to check into. Thanks for the info.
 
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I don't get how you can let yourself go like that, how does one face themselves in the mirror day after day without utter disgust. I say this because at my work, I see these fat middle aged men lumbering around, showing up to the lunch room with a small collection of different meds, for a whole bunch of bull**** health conditions. How the **** do you accept not being sexualy wanted by women old or young. I look at them like I look at you, I'm reffering to your old pics, and say how the **** do you go through life, how the **** do you get through the day. I can't relate as I promised myself I would never, ever let myself go. I would like to know what your mindset was all those years.
Wow, 54 rep and 4 whole posts all dedicated to me? Damn, I must really get under your skin for some reason. Not sure why, don't really care.

I have19+ year career working with alcoholics and junkies and sociopaths who would as soon slit your throat as smile at you. I have raised 3 healthy and ethical kids, one of which earned a scholarship to a great nursing college and all three love me deeply. Yet somehow you think that you are gonna get to me? Save your trolling energy for some reactionary 19 year old with a fragile ego that you can prey on little troll. You are insignificant in my life and always will be. Your opinion is meaningless because you have no standing. You are not even worth the head space to get pissed off about. Enjoy this tiny morsel of attention wee troll man, because this is all the attention you will ever get from me.:dance:
 
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Date: Mar 6, 2011
Name: Day 1, wk 8
Start Time: 02:35 PM
End Time: 04:00 PM
Duration: 01:25
Location: Williams County Y
Mood: Normal - Not Great But Not Bad

# Exercise Name Set Lbs. Reps

1 Barbell Bench Press - Medium Grip
#1 235 8
#2 185 8
#3 135 8
#4 235 2
#5 185 4
#6 135 6
2 drop sets 235, 185, 135. Trying to break through this damn wall I have hit on my bench. Amazed how fewer reps I got the 2nd time around.

2 Bent Over Barbell Row
#1 225 8
#2 225 7
#3 225 6
#4 225 5

3 Seated Barbell Shoulder Press
#1 175 12
#2 185 9
#3 185 4
This is starting to get a bit scary and I am loving it!

4 Lying Triceps Press
#1 85 10
#2 85 10
#3 85 10
With EZ Curl bar
 

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More free advice, first off your carbs are way to high, 200+ grams of carbs, are you ****ting me, how the **** do you expect to loose fat taking in over two hundred grams of carbs a day, your max should be fifty grams. With that many carbs in your system the body will never burn fat for fuel. Like I said before your diet should be palumbo/anabolic. I gaurante you if you don't imediatly drop your carb intake, you will make no progress.
 
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WOW... 1testlife is DEFINETELY negged..

taman dont listen to them bro.. you KNOW you are making progress with what you are doing so stick with it. Reps to you bro screw the haters
 
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Wow, 54 rep and 4 whole posts all dedicated to me? Damn, I must really get under your skin for some reason. Not sure why, don't really care.

I have19+ year career working with alcoholics and junkies and sociopaths who would as soon slit your throat as smile at you. I have raised 3 healthy and ethical kids, one of which earned a scholarship to a great nursing college and all three love me deeply. Yet somehow you think that you are gonna get to me? Save your trolling energy for some reactionary 19 year old with a fragile ego that you can prey on little troll. You are insignificant in my life and always will be. Your opinion is meaningless because you have no standing. You are not even worth the head space to get pissed off about. Enjoy this tiny morsel of attention wee troll man, because this is all the attention you will ever get from me.:dance:
great response and BTW his rep is now 0 :D
 

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rep power zero, are you ten years old. You think I give a **** about rep power, grow the **** up and leave your moms basement. Anyway like I said bra, your not 18 Years old, your metabolism has slowed down big time, you can not get away with eating that many carbs, and expect to loose body fat, its just not going to happen at your age, you have to drop them below 50 Or your not going to see results.
 
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healthfit wtf is the matter with you, the fact you walked in there and saw 100 Year olds working out, and didn't imediatly leave makes me question your sanity.
still no excuse, you can get weights,bench,bars,etc,etc. Through the want ads for very cheap, how can you face yourself after a "hard core" workout out at healthfit surrounding by old ladies doing light cardio or whatever the **** they do. In those 12 years you my friend lost more than your health, you also lost your manhood.
ok this is the plan, 1 bottle of oxy elite pro, pure creatine mono, beta aline, and bulk daa, those will be your supplements. The diet will be palumbo/anabolic, your trainning will be a one on one off split. There will be no ***** workouts, just hardcore balls to the wall trainning. You will do this until goal is reached.:****you:
I don't get how you can let yourself go like that, how does one face themselves in the mirror day after day without utter disgust. I say this because at my work, I see these fat middle aged men lumbering around, showing up to the lunch room with a small collection of different meds, for a whole bunch of bull**** health conditions. How the **** do you accept not being sexualy wanted by women old or young. I look at them like I look at you, I'm reffering to your old pics, and say how the **** do you go through life, how the **** do you get through the day. I can't relate as I promised myself I would never, ever let myself go. I would like to know what your mindset was all those years.
More free advice, first off your carbs are way to high, 200+ grams of carbs, are you ****ting me, how the **** do you expect to loose fat taking in over two hundred grams of carbs a day, your max should be fifty grams. With that many carbs in your system the body will never burn fat for fuel. Like I said before your diet should be palumbo/anabolic. I gaurante you if you don't imediatly drop your carb intake, you will make no progress.
rep power zero, are you ten years old. You think I give a **** about rep power, grow the **** up and leave your moms basement. Anyway like I said bra, your not 18 Years old, your metabolism has slowed down big time, you can not get away with eating that many carbs, and expect to loose body fat, its just not going to happen at your age, you have to drop them below 50 Or your not going to see results.
What the **** is wrong with you? I negged you as well, I really don't care if it effects you or not, having you deep in the red will lead to most of this site ignoring you.

Taman is doing what half of this country won't. Does he have some extra weight? Yes, I don't think he would deny that. But he is doing something about it, not only that but he is willing to share his progress with us for a source of advice and motivation. On top of the bravery of facing his situation and taking charge of it, he has also been brave enough to share his pictures with us. How many guys do that?

Rather than come into this thread, encourage him turning his life around and offering constructive criticism, you instead decide to join the thread and be a typical troll, offering advice in a very demeaning way (FYI not everyone has dedicated their life to reading on nutrition and lifting weights) and you criticize his appearance, you even make fun of the gym he is in. What a shallow man you are playing big boy behind a computer monitor.

Taman, I hadn't seen this log until now, but I am glad I did. I will be here following your progress. Keep working at it, you are doing what too many are too weak to attempt, and sticking through with it, which is better than 90% of the people that take that first step. Keep going bro, Ill be watching.
 
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Heard through the grapevine about this thread. Keep up the progress, and stick with it. Health is a way of life, and it takes dedication to make it happen. It'll all be worth it, and then some, to reduce your risk (and cost) of poor health.

I'm surprised by some of the negative comments in here, really unnecessary to get a point across, but you get A-holes everywhere. Good respone though, seems like you're handling it in a mature way as well.

I do agree that carb levels seem a bit high. I saw earlier in the thread Josh recommended reducing carbs. I'd second that notion just based on all the literature and experience I've seen. Just by sheer probability I'm guessing that the carb sources you're eating are probably going to be high glycemic too, and lead to insulin spikes and resistance, which is not good. If you could make 1 improvement to something that's already working, that would be the best IMO. Eliminating refined carbs and foods does wonders for health and bodyweight. It's tough at first, but can be overcome in a week. It takes a strong will.

Good luck!
 
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I don't get how you can let yourself go like that, how does one face themselves in the mirror day after day without utter disgust. I say this because at my work, I see these fat middle aged men lumbering around, showing up to the lunch room with a small collection of different meds, for a whole bunch of bull**** health conditions. How the **** do you accept not being sexualy wanted by women old or young. I look at them like I look at you, I'm reffering to your old pics, and say how the **** do you go through life, how the **** do you get through the day. I can't relate as I promised myself I would never, ever let myself go. I would like to know what your mindset was all those years.
There are much better ways to deal with your issues. This post is reported for abusive posting.
 
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rep power zero, are you ten years old. You think I give a **** about rep power, grow the **** up and leave your moms basement. Anyway like I said bra, your not 18 Years old, your metabolism has slowed down big time, you can not get away with eating that many carbs, and expect to loose body fat, its just not going to happen at your age, you have to drop them below 50 Or your not going to see results.
You've been a member since 2006 and have 6 posts and they're all in thus thread being negative... Go back to lurking you have no place here.
 
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Obviously the place sucked, which is why I am now some where else. Out grew it before my membership was up. Van Wert (Ohio) County YM is "the dungeon" and my new abode. Gig on me about the "healthfit" thing all you want, I think it is funny. At least I got off my ass and got going again, and that is what matters.
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taman, I just read through the whole log. Obviously what you are doing is working. Keep up the great work and don't worry about any of the negative criticism. Where you work out has nothing to do with anything, I work out in a 20 x 30 building in my back yard.
 

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I don't know what the hell yall reading, I never gave critisicim, only real advice minus the b.s and sugar coating. I asked real questions about more than just fat loss but about life, because if you didn't know mindset is 90% of solution, and will decide succes or failure. Everyone else just offers the same tired bull**** of "just keep it up", wtf is that going to do, aint going to help at all. I will continue to offer the real deal, no compromize, no ass kissing for ****ing rep points. Its ****ing sad how you label someone a troll, when they ask hard questions, and don't just blow smoke up peoples asses. Do you really want every members intelicual contribution to be limited to "good job buddy keep it up".:think:
 

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