Well now that I see i wont be able to use the Konos I am going to put my APT elbow sleeves on my knees for as long as I can stand it and do it a few times to break in the fabric more then put back on my elbow. I ain't complaining, I would rather have good forearms and a hard time fitting in stuff than the opposite. I keep seeing people say it takes weeks to break em in so they are comfortable enough to wear the whole workout so we may just have to suck it up my freind and break them in. Like I said my elbow ones I can get up on my knees if I work my ass off to do it. If I do some body weight squatting and leave em on for a while it should stretch them out enough I can feel my arm and it isn't turning purple.