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any help would be greatly appreciated
not trying to be a jackwagon-but if you type in joint supplement in the search box you will find several recent threads on this subject.any help would be greatly appreciated
i think you will really like the skeletal balm-i am not a rep, just someone who wants to share when i find a product that really works well.I just had a thread on this- i went with joint force and after that im gonna try skelly balm..as far as pills and such, ive liked super cissus in the past.
Depending on your problem, topical Celadrin is mighty, mighty good.any help would be greatly appreciated
n/p i understand price points very well-i am married w/children, lol.bigt- thanks for the input, man..it was about cost this time around..i had budgeted for other supps and this time it was in my price point for what i had left..im gonna get some skully next time around.
my friend, lack of funds at any time blows, lol.just googled celedrin..interesting.
bigt- lack of funds when you wants supps BLOWS.
maybe after the holidays i will get some osteo-sport to take with skeletal balm. but as for topical- skeletal balm is hard to beat.If money permits it I would say the way to go is stacking some Osteo-Sport and Joint Force. I still have yet to try the Joint Force, but I have only heard great things about it. Since the Joint Force is a topical it would be wise choice to stack it with a pill form product and formula wise there is nothing on the market as complete as Osteo-Sport...Period!
Cheers!:cheers:
-Sean-
Primordial Performance
I also like NOW's topical Celadrin as well as Labrada's Elastijoint (grape not the fruit punch, yech). Another good cheap one is SciFit's Joint Enhance with MSM. I got crappy knees from sports so I use them frequently.Depending on your problem, topical Celadrin is mighty, mighty good.
I usually use that with Labrada Elastijoint or Artholyze from Species.
You looking for something for the joints or tendons? Using something like SportPharma Joint V is good for "maintenance" , however you may want to look into one of the topicals .any help would be greatly appreciated
Did'nt realize Aloe Vera and MSM are that effective:33:Lack of cash flow is def a mood killer. Love me some SkellyBalm from NTBM
I forgot all about Bromelain, thanks for the reminder - excellent compound. I like Skeletal Balm's isolation ability, remember VPX's Glucosacreme? That was short lived.I use Orange Triad. Glucosamine, Chondroitin, MSM, Hyaluric Acid, and Bromelain. Eliminated my cartilage and tendon issues in my hands and arms. I have some ligaments around the outside perimeter of my kneecap that become tender from time to time. You even flick it, I am in pain. The Triad helped some but I may jump on the skeletal balm bandwagon for that one...
lol-trust me, skeltal balm is very effective!Did'nt realize Aloe Vera and MSM are that effective:33:
for the price glucosacreme couldn't be beat-r.i.p.I forgot all about Bromelain, thanks for the reminder - excellent compound. I like Skeletal Balm's isolation ability, remember VPX's Glucosacreme? That was short lived.
Good for digesting a steak too!I forgot all about Bromelain, thanks for the reminder - excellent compound. I like Skeletal Balm's isolation ability, remember VPX's Glucosacreme? That was short lived.
hey my friend, great post!!!Joint Force gets a vote from me, as well as Animal Flex and Super Cissus. I was really hesitant on Joint Force, despite it's pedigree. However, I'm really glad I gave it a whirl. Honestly, I feel it working within 10-15 minutes, and so do my buddies. At first, I couldn't believe it, but having other people relay the same to me, I'll chalk it up as reality. I'm using it on my wrists and ankle currently, and it makes a huge difference. I've even gone so far as to measure swelling of my wrists and ankles before I started using it and during, happy to report during is less. My wrists are getting to be troublesome from repetitive stress, and my one ankle has been rebuilt twice, while my other one should have been. Animal Flex has always worked well for me, noticeable in about 3 days with less inflammation, and about 2 weeks for improved mobility. As for super Cissus, I stacked it with Animal Flex once, at a high dose, and noticed a bit more of an improvement versus just Animal Flex, but every body is different. I've gone through several bottles, mainly because lots of those bottles never got given back to me from "Letting someone try it." On a bright note, Christmas shopping is now done for those people. I would also add fish oil into the mix as well, make sure you get a good one, Controlled Labs one is working well for me, although I do get the fish burps, no biggie for me. I don't get much time any more to post on these forums or read stuff, I've got so much going on right now, but I saw this thread and made it a priority as I wanted to try to help out others who have joint pain like I do. I'm not sure if Joint Force will do anything more than alleviate the pain, but perhaps some others can comment on that. My only complaints about it would be the spray application, as it goes everywhere, even when I'm careful and I always wind up somehow inhaling it. I feel a pump would be better, but until then, I guess I can suffer through it,lol. Good luck!!
Exactly!!! Versatile.Good for digesting a steak too!
Are you comparing its effectiveness to Glucosacreame or ingreds??Kinda confused cause the ingreds are now where near the sameI forgot all about Bromelain, thanks for the reminder - excellent compound. I like Skeletal Balm's isolation ability, remember VPX's Glucosacreme? That was short lived.
Oh no, I have never used either product, just talking about a topical joint product reminded me of VPX's old product. Just reminiscing.Are you comparing its effectiveness to Glucosacreame or ingreds??Kinda confused cause the ingreds are now where near the same
Gotcha ...I used many bottles of VPX 's and was very dissappointed when it was DCed. The only other topical I would consider are Projoint , Now Celadren or Joint forceOh no, I have never used either product, just talking about a topical joint product reminded me of VPX's old product. Just reminiscing.
the osteo sport looks interesting, but the cissus did nothing for me.osteo sport has been good to me.
when I'm not using osteo sport, super cissus is a staple for me...keeps my tendonitis from flaring up.
Actually this is the profile for Osteo-Sport:the osteo sport looks interesting, but the cissus did nothing for me.
Just reviewed the Osteo profile above... not a fan of Proprietary Blends, but the ingredient list reads like something from the annals of superlative science journal publications. Looks like possible at 3 caps a day the ingredient yield would reach efficacious levels. At any rate, looks like a comprehensive supplement.the osteo sport looks interesting, but the cissus did nothing for me.
when usplabs 1st released the original powerful and cissus they sold them as a combo pack for a very nice price-i bought one and had very good results. the cissus was labeled more for anabolic than analgesic properties. since then i have tried several of the more recent powerful formulas and had decent results. but when i bought cissus for the purpose of helping joints i didn't see much from it at all as a solo product-and no analgesic benefit whatsoever.Just reviewed the Osteo profile above... not a fan of Proprietary Blends, but the ingredient list reads like something from the annals of superlative science journal publications. Looks like possible at 3 caps a day the ingredient yield would reach efficacious levels. At any rate, looks like a comprehensive supplement.
Also, regarding Cissus, I used it years ago and actually can't recall whether I liked it or not (which probably means I didn't), but it might have been based on what version, extract, company you purchased it from.
I have seen nothing but good things about Orange Triad. I was also having some knee problems but today is my 8th day on Blue Gene and knee barely hurts. I guess dem Cissus in it are doing there joborange triad, yet its so much more
WOW - that is HUGE Big T, thanks for sharing. What a vote of confidence, even comparing them as far superior to medications. How long was it until you enjoyed noticeable and maximum connective tissue and joint pain relief while using NTBM's Balm?at 52 yrs old and having had arthritis for past 3-5 yrs i have tried a ton of stuff.
2 things i have found that actually do help are
1.wobenzyme n
2.SKELETAL BALM
my prescription tramadol doesn't even come close to giving the relief these two otc products do.
it took a few days. after the 1st couple of applications i wasn't expecting much-but by the 3rd day i knew it was something special. it's not like icy/hot were what you get in 1st 15 minutes is what you are going to get-overtime effects keep building.WOW - that is HUGE Big T, thanks for sharing. What a vote of confidence, even comparing them as far superior to medications. How long was it until you enjoyed noticeable and maximum connective tissue and joint pain relief while using NTBM's Balm?
at 52 yrs old and having had arthritis for past 3-5 yrs i have tried a ton of stuff.
2 things i have found that actually do help are
1.wobenzyme n
2.SKELETAL BALM
my prescription tramadol doesn't even come close to giving the relief these two otc products do.
wobenzyme n is fantastic stuff too along with skeletal balm you should start feeling better in 3 days, but full relief takes longer -i started wobenzyme n when i had knee replacement and have used it off and on since then.Thanks for the info how long did it take to feel relief using wobenzyme n , I am sneaking up in age and my joints ain't like they use to be
Oh yeah I 'know' of it well, and like that company overall... I see it sitting on the shelf all the time when I walk through Vitamin Shoppe, but never thought it was 'that' good in the real world. Thanks for your suggestion.wobenzyme n is fantastic stuff too along with skeletal balm you should start feeling better in 3 days, but full relief takes longer -i started wobenzyme n when i had knee replacement and have used it off and on since then.
there is 60 years of research on wobenzyme n-i am really surprised no one else on here has mentioned it.
google wobenzyme n and see what i am talking about!!!
besides the digestive enzymes are freaking good for you on top of everything else, lol.Oh yeah I 'know' of it well, and like that company overall... I see it sitting on the shelf all the time when I walk through Vitamin Shoppe, but never thought it was 'that' good in the real world. Thanks for your suggestion.
I'm going to read more about it, and when my current stash of Glucosamine, Chondroitan, and MSM is depleted I'm going to make a switch to this, along with Skelly Balm and or perhaps Osteo or Orange Triad. I have read a lot about Animal's Flex, but it was all company based literature which of course makes it sound like the cure for cancer and more.
pain free is good....glad that is working for you!right now ive just started...
joint force
oral celadrin ( its all they had in stock )
bio-freeze - i apply this after the joint force dries
so far so good- im about 4 days in with the joint force and biofreeze- just added celedrin last night..im pretty pain free right now, my pain was never really really bad, just constant ache in both elbows...i did some things the past couple of sessions that usually hurt a bit and had no issues.
pain free is good....glad that is working for you!
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