Hei Brundel, when did you say the TD would be released? I was wondering if I gonna have it before mid June, when I gonna start my cutting.
Is Viron enough to run alongside it?Yes it will be ready by then for sure.
I just finalized the ingredient panel today.
Ive added 2 more ingredients on top of what the loggers are using. This is gonna be the best transdermal Ive ever made.
2 AIs, 2 fat burners. Very solid doses.
For sure. Youll be able to run it solo as well. Very solid stuff.Is Viron enough to run alongside it?
Not to throw a wrench in any of this, but someone isn't saying something here. Maybe it's not you brundel but...Unfortunately....yes. Hes obviously not perfectly healthy with a test level of 100 yet he was still able to see a 500nd/dl rise in 7 days.
Generally speaking when estrogen levels are exceptionally high test levels will be low. Ive seen it several times.
In each instance an ai was able to fix things.
In this case his dr prescribed letro and clomid but he used the herbal ai only instead. The dr thought he had been using letro and clomid when he saw the results. Said those were good test results for the combo of clomid and letro. This is of course only one example as we ran extensive testing.
Fingers crossed hoping it's the formerSo here's the facts. Your product is
It's one of the 2 above. Either everything you said is genuine and you've changed modern medicine forever, or someone is lying
Im pretty sure the guy had been diagnosed with cancer and had just had chemo or surgery??Not to throw a wrench in any of this, but someone isn't saying something here. Maybe it's not you brundel but...
LH rose 1000%. Do you know what clomid does to LH levels in men with secondary hypogonadism? As I actually have professional experience in an REI clinic, I'll tell you:
So here's the facts. Your product is either:
-Not only 10x stronger than the most powerful LH stimulant ever created by man, but also acts 16x faster (1 week vs 4 months). If this is true, you have revolutionized the field of endocrinology and will probably win the 2015 nobel prize for science if you formally submit this data.
-Someone is lying. Like I said, it may not be you, but someone along the way is either using another compound that generates a false positive LH assay, lying about why his levels are low, or using an LH suppressant (you can take LH to nothing with a single dose of certain drugs) to impress you with labs and get free product in the future. Btw, I don't know who tested it and haven't looked into this further, but I'd rather do it this way so I can see this objectively from an outsider viewpoint.
It's one of the 2 above. Either everything you said is genuine and you've changed modern medicine forever, or someone is lying
What cancer and what chemo? Chemo could nail the HPTA, as could any sort of endocrine cancer. Prostate cancer and certain testicular cancers are actually treated by GnRH suppressants (which means your LH goes to zero or near it).Im pretty sure the guy had been diagnosed with cancer and had just had chemo or surgery??
It was mentioned on one of the treads that he had Testicular cancer.What cancer and what chemo? Chemo could nail the HPTA, as could any sort of endocrine cancer. Prostate cancer and certain testicular cancers are actually treated by GnRH suppressants (which means your LH goes to zero or near it).
Well that explains it then. Damn I was hoping for science revolution...What cancer and what chemo? Chemo could nail the HPTA, as could any sort of endocrine cancer. Prostate cancer and certain testicular cancers are actually treated by GnRH suppressants (which means your LH goes to zero or near it).
Ah, ok. Brundel's post said in 1 week.Yes, I'll see if I can find his log. He posted before and after lab screen shots and I do believe he was coming back from testicular cancer if memory serves. And it was not in a week, this was a 4 week run.
For publically admitting your error you win a Noble prizeMy mistake, I thought it was 4 weeks.
And they only shared there mystery AI plant of the gods with you in return for an endless supply of Viron to keep them happy with there tribal babes lolI actually lived with these guys for a year before they allowed me access to the rare plant. I had to also wear one of the scrotal sack pouches to fit in. They made wicked good kava tea but all the chicks had flapjacks hanging from their chests. All in all it was worth it. I mean....... I may win a Nobel prize for raising jackedjacks LH 10x. >
Ain't nothin wrong with flapjacks!. They go good with syrup!I actually lived with these guys for a year before they allowed me access to the rare plant. I had to also wear one of the scrotal sack pouches to fit in.
They made wicked good kava tea but all the chicks had flapjacks hanging from their chests.
All in all it was worth it.
I mean....... I may win a Nobel prize for raising jackedjacks LH 10x.
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A difference exists between talking about how a product will be effective and absolutely ludicrous claims that can't be achieved and completely manipulate people who tend to think supplement creators have developed the greatest product ever.Ah, ok. Brundel's post said in 1 week.
Make no mistake about it, I don't doubt that BLR products work, you know this kisaj. I just like to keep the claims down to earth. L-dopa is effective. Your old fat loss formula when I used it was effective. Formestane is effective. Epicatechin is effective. And I loved my viron run. It's just the marketing that gets me sometimes, which is fine because I know it's part of the game. You can make a great product but if every other major company is claiming insane things, you have to do it too to stand any chance at competing and making more great products in the future. So I understand that much. But I like to reserve that more for the mainstream who doesn't understand what makes a great product. Here on the forums, where people are more educated and we're a community, I think full disclosure is prudent.
That said, the product may indeed be a great LH elevator. Not the greatest ever created as 1000% would indicate, but I'd be curious to see labs in healthier guys to see how it performs.
As a result we are currently out of stock on Viron.And they only shared there mystery AI plant of the gods with you in return for an endless supply of Viron to keep them happy with there tribal babes lol
did you really just manipulate context to prove a point about ethics? lol.A difference exists between talking about how a product will be effective and absolutely ludicrous claims that can't be achieved and completely manipulate people who tend to think supplement creators have developed the greatest product ever.
You don't need to do the latter on these type of forums. They simply make educated people roll their eyes and dismiss what the creators are saying. They have the effect of getting the uneducated or lurkers interested in the product. It's still completely dishonest and is essentially lying to potential customers. One can market (every company must) without making outlandish claims to people who don't realize that what they are claiming is impossible.
Ok-
The ultimate recomp agent!
Not ok- You will add 100 pounds to your deadlift in a week if you take this.
i would look at it more as a parabledid you really just manipulate context to prove a point about ethics? lol.
my "?" was rhetorical in nature. what he said was pretty clear, thank you though.i would look at it more as a parable
:cheers:my "?" was rhetorical in nature. what he said was pretty clear, thank you though.
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