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Just remember all BCAAs are not ketogenic which means they can be used as glucoseWhen working out fasted and a high amount of ffa your liver is forced to create ketones. Glucogenic aminos will effect that. So your going to feel ehh. Higher leucine content is warrented. 1-2g of tyhe other BCAA won't effect you muchj but eaas and bcaas in a high amount will. 10g leucine or an 8:1:1 amino acid profile is best IMO
 
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following for sure, would love to see thoughts on need2slin
 
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In for the reviews. I've used Glycobol and Slin-sane. Love Slin-sane, stocked up on it. Glycobol... meh.
 
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In for the reviews. I've used Glycobol and Slin-sane. Love Slin-sane, stocked up on it. Glycobol... meh.
Glycobol wasn't too bad for me.
 
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i like glycobol because it doesn't make you go hypo....great product to use pre bed....i believe rosie runs her gda's that way but some get me hypo and before bed that could suck.....so a combo of a stronger gda plus glycobol is very effective imo
 
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i like glycobol because it doesn't make you go hypo....great product to use pre bed....i believe rosie runs her gda's that way but some get me hypo and before bed that could suck.....so a combo of a stronger gda plus glycobol is very effective imo
That was all I know slin ain't bad. I think they both work....
 
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i like glycobol because it doesn't make you go hypo....great product to use pre bed....i believe rosie runs her gda's that way but some get me hypo and before bed that could suck.....so a combo of a stronger gda plus glycobol is very effective imo
See u guys like to wake up dry huh?
Just dont piss the bed :p
 
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Slin Sane works it just needs to be ran for a long time, like any product that is gynema sylvestre based. Good comparison though, nice to see one being done.
 
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Slin Sane works it just needs to be ran for a long time, like any product that is gynema sylvestre based. Good comparison though, nice to see one being done.
How long would u say before one notices something?
I have heard this before.
 
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See u guys like to wake up dry huh?
Just dont piss the bed :p
Lol that's funny! I am currently using glycobol & take 1 cap pre bed. I wake up at least 2x a night to pee. Wake up feeling nice & dry for a recomping fatty like me.
 
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Lol that's funny! I am currently using glycobol & take 1 cap pre bed. I wake up at least 2x a night to pee. Wake up feeling nice & dry for a recomping fatty like me.
i never noticed excess peeing during the night on glycobol, but then again i always wake up atleast once in the nigh to pee anyway....i'll take notice next time
 
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Lol that's funny! I am currently using glycobol & take 1 cap pre bed. I wake up at least 2x a night to pee. Wake up feeling nice & dry for a recomping fatty like me.
Ima have to try this next time. Maybe next month ?
 

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Slin Sane effects are immediate, with the first dose, in most users experience. It's not that it doesn't affect a user until prolonged use; its that it gets BETTER! Gets better??!!?!?....hard for most first time slin sane users to believe :)
 
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I've been taking my second capa of Slin Sane pre bed for about 2 weeks or so now and some days I don't really notice much in the am, but other mornings I wake up with veins I didn't know I had lol. I feel exceptionally well the morning after if I eat half a pizza before bed and take one.
 
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I've been taking my second capa of Slin Sane pre bed for about 2 weeks or so now and some days I don't really notice much in the am, but other mornings I wake up with veins I didn't know I had lol. I feel exceptionally well the morning after if I eat half a pizza before bed and take one.
Yeah I savor those mornings lol, "time for progress pictures"
 
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Ok, next one is

GENOMYX SLIN SANE

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Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 1 Capsule
Servings per Container: 60
Propietary Blend:
Gymnema Sylvestre and Lagerstoma Speciosa 500 mg
L-Norvaline 100 mg

The most simple formula among the three GDAs and yet quite effective.
I experimented a bit with this one with dose and timing.
First thing to notice is that there are no common ingredients with Glycobol,
so while they are suppose to do the same thing, they definitely take a different approach/pathway
Technically we have some sort of P-Slin with added Norvaline,
Gymnema and Lagerstoma, two well known ingredients in a proprietary blend,
while norvaline is supposedly what gives you the pump due to its effect of
vasodilating properties and the ability to increase NO production, Gymnema is
what takes care of the nutrient partitioning, it increases cells permeability,
mimicks insulin as well as increasing its release, reduce serum glucose and a bunch of
other things which I will get into later on..
Lagerstoma is what instead enhances glucose uptake in the muscle cells,
should lower blood glucose response (to feeding) and increase insulin sensitivity and
GLUT4 translocation among other things..


So same purpose, different ingredients.
How does it work?
SS is pretty potent one caps is enough for a decent size meal and you can feel it working
since the first dose despite Gymnema also builds up its effect over time
I don't get much in the way of pumps out of it, but I also don't really care about the pumps,
despite that I do think Norvaline has a good synergy with the other two ingredients
and somehow increasing blood flows also helps with the absorption.

I tried it at 1cp 20 min pre meal, 2cps 20 min pre meal
and I actually took both 1 and 2cps and waited longer to see if there was
any of those "hypo" feelings you see some people report.
There are not, nor Gbol not SS make you go hypo if you don't eat,
if you go hypo is not because of the GDA.

Differently from Gbol the long(ish) term use of SS seems to provide
some sort of "fullness" which is not pumps/vascularity, it does feel and seems
more like an actual nutrients "shuttling", nothing major but noticeable.
I noticed no leaning effect with SS and I also noticed that it does work better
with carbs, in fact, I got the most out of it in my refeed/carb-up day.

Best dose/timing with SS for me is 2cps pre-meal, now since I do warrior diet
I eat all my meals in a 4/6hours window, so it would be stupid to dose it at 1cp
prior each meal, it would have been like taking one every hour, add the 20min to wait..
like I said, stupid.
Plus, the ingredients don't have such a short lifespan, hence the 2cps dosing

Even during refeed (when i don't do the 16/18hours fasting - 4/6hours feeding)
I found it works best at 2cps prior the first meal and then another meal after 3 or 4 hours.

Like I said the effect is quite noticeable and the fullness after a meal containing carbs
is noticeable. Very different from the "blood flow feeling" from Glycobol, is not so fast,
you can notice it not right away after the meal but more like after an hour and half
at the same time, it last longer, much longer than Gbol.

Like I said, no leaning or recomping effect, but - trying to describe it in the best way I can -
more like your body is able to better use food/nutrients (shuttling it in your muscles)

I tried it at 3cps pre meal and noticed absolutely no difference from using 2cps,
but there is indeed a pretty big difference between 1 and 2cps, definitely MUCH better
at 2.

So, the first comparison between the two is I think SS gives a closer results to what I personally
expect from a GDA, of course this is probably subjective, meaning, some people react better to some
ingredients than others, personally I like the combo Gymnema/Lagerstoma better than Na-Rala,
I do feel is more effective at what a GDA is suppose to do.

One thing to be noticed tho' is that I find it completely useless if not taken with carbs.
There is no noticeable effect taking it without carbs, nor taking the pre-bed-empty-stomach
dose that some people seem to like, while Gbol delivers the effect even without carbs (altho'
like I said, is more a momentary effect..) SS is way more carb-oriented.
For me, low carber, would not be really useful as an everyday sup, only on refeed/carb-up day.

Unfortunately here in EU Slin Sane is not as cheap as in US, and using it at 2cps a pop,
with the bottle containing only 60cps makes it a tad expensive.

Overall I think is a very well designed product, simple and effective formula that works
well with carbs, I prefer this one to Glycobol.

Ok, that's all for now, stay tuned for the last one, Recompadrol and the overall comparison
between the three ;)
 
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Nice man. Seems they both act the same yet the effects last longer on slin...
I'll have to try 2 caps.


How many carbs were u using with 2 caps?
 
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Nice man. Seems they both act the same yet the effects last longer on slin...
I'll have to try 2 caps.


How many carbs were u using with 2 caps?
No definitely they don't work the same. SS seems to have a somehow deeper effect on
food shuttling while glycobol is more a blood flow/vascularity feeling
SS effect last longer and kicks in slower, Gbol is more immediate but kinda momentary,
plus SS seems to have no effects without carbs while Gbol is pretty much the same with or without.

Like I said before I tried SS at 1, 2 and 3cps, there are absolutely NO sides or hypo feelings
even at 3cps and NO FOOD at all for hours.. but also no difference (if taken with food) between 2 and 3cps,
big difference between 1 and 2

I used 10gr of carbs with 1 and 2cps, lil to no effect

I used 1, 2 and 3cps with 50 to 70gr of carbs (refeed day) with the mentioned above effects and differences between
the different dose
 
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Thanks for the review man :D

I was curious how a low carber like you would do on Slin-Sane, definitely worth it for the carb fans like myself lol
 
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I kinda gave it away I guess but, here's the last one:

EBF Recompadrol

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Recomp Complex: 809mg
Garcinia Cambogia (50% HCA),
Berberine HCI (98%),
Salacia Reticulata Extract,
Gymnema Sylvestre (75% Gymnemic Acids),
Banaba Leaf (20% Corosolic Acid),
Vanadyl Sulfate,
Aminoguanidine


After weeks and weeks of experiments, different doses, meal sizes,
carbs, no carbs, fats and every combo you can
possibly think about I can firmly say Recompadrol gets the crown for my favorite GDA.
Why? More than one reason.


This one has the more complex formula, and from the results I've been getting
with it, I feel like saying very well designed. I like when a product has a formula
that give you more than the sum of the ingredients (Craze comes to mind)
and this one definitely delivers what it claims and more.
Curious about the "more"?
Let me get to it right away: one thing that Recomp does for me and no other
GDA did is that it acts ALSO like a straight fat burner! I mentioned this before.
I've been waiting for Recomp to hit the stores here in EU for a long time
and I had high expectations for it, because I think I've never read or heard
any bad feedback about it, and I can see why.
You know I keep my BF very low all year round and very few fat burners
do anything to me because well, because when your body has such low BF
there's not much to burn in the first place, but most important the "usual"
pathways fat burners use somehow don't cut it, you need to "trick" your
body into keep losing fat or keep the low % that you already have.


Hard to say for me which ingredients is doing what (for this particular task)
but since the very first week of use, I immediately learned to love
the pre-bed dose.
Boy, you wake up in the morning tight! , but most noticeable result is how "grainy"
I look in the morning.
I started taking that one pill before bed and never stopped.


Recomp for me is the most versatile of the bunch, it works with carbs and without,
and this is indeed important for me being a low carber
With it I've been able to boost my daily cals intake by something like 150/200
(keeping carbs still at 25/30gr ED) without getting any extra BF, but instead gaining
size and fullness dosing it at 1cp 20 min prior each meal.
Mind this: you will not "feel it" right away, it builds up in your system
Recompadrol is the perfect name really, it does really work as a recomping agent.


But when you up the dose that's when it gets *really* fun.
I used this one for my refeed (altho' if you use GDAs on your refeed and you
start the refeed/carb-up post heavy workout like me don't use them in the first,
post workout meal and the one after, start later on)
I started to experiment with 2cps with 50gr of carbs, then I went up slowly
at 3cps with 80gr, and so on..
I went crazy with it and dosed it up to 9cps in one day for
a total amount of 450gr of carbs in my refeed and the next day
I had no water retention, no bloat, and my muscles were fully replenished
and just bigger.


So bottom line is: it works great for everyday use at 1cp pre meal,
but it *shines* when you have go up with the dose and you EAT BIG!
It became a staple for me, and there is also another reason, something to point
out which I think is very interesting: Recompadrol works great with fats


I did some research on the ingredients here and what I found out is
HCL attenuates ACL, and suppresses fatty acid synthase, then you have
the Corosolic Acid a DGAT inhibitor and lastly Barberine and Salacia ppary
antagonist which enhance insulin sensitivity without weight gain.
See what I mean when I say the formula is what makes it work?
The synergy between the ingredients is great, and lately I've been
swapping some grams of whey with fats for my everyday cals intake
and I noticed the grainy look sticks instead of being just few hours in the
morning.
180cps in a bottle it also has the biggest caps count for the same
price as Gbol (at least here) which makes it also the cheapest
I've never experienced sides of any sort, even at 9cps a day,
I mixed it with all my other supplements and I never noticed any
odd or unexpected effect


So wrapping this up, the three are all good products, but whether you're
using carbs or not (so bulking or cutting), Recompadrol always delivers, short and long term,
in my book, the best GDA out there, if you didn't try it yet, tima give it a shot.


Hope you guys enjoyed the deathmatch, GDA are interesting products,
and they really can be used to tweak your body composition ;)
 

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Loved the reviews man. Thanks for putting in the work. Now to buy some Recompadrol. Would there be any issues consuming this in addition to my ALA pre meals?
 
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Loved the reviews man. Thanks for putting in the work. Now to buy some Recompadrol. Would there be any issues consuming this in addition to my ALA pre meals?
No prob bro

Absolutely go for the Recomp + ALA combo, actually I've been doing it myself
and I highly advice it, plenty of added benefit in tossing in some ALA
 
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Loved the reviews man. Thanks for putting in the work. Now to buy some Recompadrol. Would there be any issues consuming this in addition to my ALA pre meals?
Yup.
Just placed an order for some.
I saw your post of sup reviews too talking about snagging some up :).
 
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I've been tempted to try it in the past but just never got around to it, I guess I should now :p
 
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Thanks autoKal!

Recomp does look like a solid product just by viewing ingredient profile. You did a great job detailing your insight on each product.

You know I cant wait for your review on Andro.....especially being in lean condition...veins, fullness, strength etc....

You will be perfect for the job!

-Matt
 
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I only snagged 1. Should've probably gotten 2 at least.
I made that "mistake" lol, then I went "errrr... need more" :D

Thanks autoKal!

Recomp does look like a solid product just by viewing ingredient profile. You did a great job detailing your insight on each product.

You know I cant wait for your review on Andro.....especially being in lean condition...veins, fullness, strength etc....

You will be perfect for the job!

-Matt
No prob Matt, I totally wanted to reply to your previous post but lol
I didn't want to give it away, if you get a chance try it, if we are alike as I think
in what we like you'll love it
You know I want to do that, fixing that thing we spoke about and get to it :)
Also lemme know about the shipping thing I was waiting a word from you about that

What else has given you aid in stayin lean?
Sticking to the diet and hardcore training bro
 
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Good reviews. Looks like I'll have to try Recomp down the road. I've tested Slinshot and N2Slin with a blood/glucose monitor before and N2S tested the best for me in terms of bringing the numbers down faster after consumption of food.
 

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Auto I would like to know what you think would work best with my schedule/diet as far as dosing. I'm doing 16/8 IF setup with 2 meals a day. I eat at noon and then between 6-8pm depending on what time I get to the gym etc. I'm going with a mostly primal approach so my carbs are only around 50-75g per meal. I've been dosing 600mg ALA before each meal and now I want to throw in the Recompadrol. How would you dose it to get good results and not be overly wasteful at the same time?
 
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Auto I would like to know what you think would work best with my schedule/diet as far as dosing. I'm doing 16/8 IF setup with 2 meals a day. I eat at noon and then between 6-8pm depending on what time I get to the gym etc. I'm going with a mostly primal approach so my carbs are only around 50-75g per meal. I've been dosing 600mg ALA before each meal and now I want to throw in the Recompadrol. How would you dose it to get good results and not be overly wasteful at the same time?
No prob, that's easy
I would dose 2cps of Recompadrol 20 min before each meal, and 1cp pre bed.
1 cap prior each meal will work just fine, but 2 will work better imho, you're eating much more
carbs than I do, that's the amount I get on refeed and for that I've been using 2cps pre-meal
and liked it a great deal ;)
You can take the ALA at the same time, they actually work very well together, there's a good synergy
between them. Only thing is - not sure if I got it right - you're taking a total amount of 1200mg of ALA a day,
if you're using Recompadrol I'd cut it to 600mg total, split in two 300mg doses pre meal(s).
 

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No prob, that's easy
I would dose 2cps of Recompadrol 20 min before each meal, and 1cp pre bed.
1 cap prior each meal will work just fine, but 2 will work better imho, you're eating much more
carbs than I do, that's the amount I get on refeed and for that I've been using 2cps pre-meal
and liked it a great deal ;)
You can take the ALA at the same time, they actually work very well together, there's a good synergy
between them. Only thing is - not sure if I got it right - you're taking a total amount of 1200mg of ALA a day,
if you're using Recompadrol I'd cut it to 600mg total, split in two 300mg doses pre meal(s).
Ya that's right I've been taking 1200mg per an article I read by Layne Norton I believe. It talked about 600mg being good, 900mg being a little better, and 1200mg being a significant jump from 600mg. I will go with your dosing schedule and see how it goes for me. Thanks a ton.
 
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Loved the reviews bro and i concur with you on all of them, basicaly how they all panned out for me too.
 
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Ya that's right I've been taking 1200mg per an article I read by Layne Norton I believe. It talked about 600mg being good, 900mg being a little better, and 1200mg being a significant jump from 600mg. I will go with your dosing schedule and see how it goes for me. Thanks a ton.
No prob bro, yeah go for 600mg, you don't want too much antioxidants,
I don't remember exactly "why" that could potentially be no good but I'll try to find/remember and post
(i think it some something on the line as they actually turn into oxidants then..) 600mg w/recomp will be plenty

Loved the reviews bro and i concur with you on all of them, basicaly how they all panned out for me too.
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No prob bro, yeah go for 600mg, you don't want too much antioxidants,
I don't remember exactly "why" that could potentially be no good but I'll try to find/remember and post
(i think it some something on the line as they actually turn into oxidants then..) 600mg w/recomp will be plenty



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The problem with getting to much anti-ox is that they stop the inflamation process, and while this is good for the most part, you still need inflamation to cause growth. Like X-Factor, which plays off inflamation to cause a spike in protein synthesis, growth, and strength.

Also some anti-oxs can turn into actual oxidents, like i beleive to much Vit C can do this, which we obviously dont want either.
 

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I remember reading that somewhere too. At a certain point it's actually bad for you once you cross that limit etc. I'll take it down a notch in precaution like you said. I'm friggin ready to try this stuff. It's going to be stacked up with some other stuff though unless I save it for down the road. We all know how hard it is to hold off on things though when you're dying to try something lol.
 
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3clipse saved me :D

I remember reading that somewhere too. At a certain point it's actually bad for you once you cross that limit etc. I'll take it down a notch in precaution like you said. I'm friggin ready to try this stuff. It's going to be stacked up with some other stuff though unless I save it for down the road. We all know how hard it is to hold off on things though when you're dying to try something lol.
yep, tell me about it.. I have some new *very* interesting products to try soon
and i'm fightin' hard not to pop 'em open right away, and yet I hate to leave bottles half way
 

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3clipse saved me :D



yep, tell me about it.. I have some new *very* interesting products to try soon
and i'm fightin' hard not to pop 'em open right away, and yet I hate to leave bottles half way
do tell!!!???

will you be doing a review for these as well?
 
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do tell!!!???

will you be doing a review for these as well?
Will do bro, I asked for some more info about this product because
for the lil I know now it looks incredible
I tweaked my diet a bit (swapped some protein with fats) with crazy good results
and I'm planning on adding this one asap and report.
I'll be boosting everyday's cals a bit and this one should do the magic trick :D

I'll keep y'all posted
 
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Will do bro, I asked for some more info about this product because
for the lil I know now it looks incredible
I tweaked my diet a bit (swapped some protein with fats) with crazy good results
and I'm planning on adding this one asap and report.
I'll be boosting everyday's cals a bit and this one should do the magic trick :D

I'll keep y'all posted
Next up u have to give us some insight on
Compound 20.
I'm tempted to take some while on my last 4 weeks of AndroMass... :)
Not sure yet...
 
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Next up u have to give us some insight on
Compound 20.
I'm tempted to take some while on my last 4 weeks of AndroMass... :)
Not sure yet...
Compound 20 causes so much inflamation in my body that i cant use it. I hate it but oh well.
 
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Compound 20 causes so much inflamation in my body that i cant use it. I hate it but oh well.
Yeah I just swallowed 2 caps...
Nervous to take extra stuff cause of the absorption complex in AndroMass haha...
 

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