Wow, in the automotive industry, we have to go through a whole long process of cross-referencing part numbers with the car components, ordering those car components through local car dealerships, and stripping them appart to test competator components.
It's hard to dispute the fact that the product actually works, based on a ton of anecdotal evidence. It's just as hard, however, to verify claims of what is actually in the product, and just what ADED is, because as Patrick mentioned, the nomenclature is misleading at best. If ADED is mATD, or a metabolite of ATD, it's probably not dangerous, whether it is truly methylated or not.
Hell - we could get stuff in Wal-mart if we wanted to test someone else's oil.
:wave: Great info PA:thumbsup:
You guys are lucky. A lot of the parts we want to test aren't individually sold for a few years after the new car has hit the market, so we're stuck buying entire control arms, etc. to obtain test parts. It's a long, annoying, and expensive process so, of course, they have us co-ops doing it.
Don't keep the lady waiting.
Haha, I see where your coming from Poison...now go back into hiding!...kidding..
Don't keep the lady waiting.
I should of known, I bet he didnt leave any bread crumbs :toofunny: You gotta do that for a man, they cant read a map to save their life
Ohhhh, I see. Make a lot of sense I guess.ALR's response was to let him test it, Im waiting to ship
i like this....great job guys...and good job keeping everything civil guys and girls
If you are a woman, why would you be using a product with AI effects?
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Well, I will subscribe to this thread and wait. This thread seems familiar to me. I saw it on another board few months ago.
Last time, Sledge, BK and a few other science guys chimed in. Maybe, they could come back to discuss science again.(Except BK
Relax, Francis!Any of you homo's touch my stuff, I'll kill ya! :bruce2:
edit: btw, I want to thank everyone for keeping this topic civil.
I think the first thread start on legitimate questions. Do you remember all the bashing we received about getting chemical classes ? I read this thread and I see the same conclusion and the same questions that I read in the other thread.
I think the first thread start on legitimate questions. Do you remember all the bashing we received about getting chemical classes ? I read this thread and I see the same conclusion and the same questions that I read in the other thread.
Maybe, this thread is more civilized but the same questions are asked. I dont want to start any drama here. I am tired of this as the majority of the users who posted in the other thread. Let's just wait for the answers and I will glady apologize if I was wrong since the beginning in the other thread.
I am the messenger.Lol, I Know that's why I never shot the messengerI post ALR's responses, if you are offended by them you can take it up with him
. Anyway, now we have PA to discuss science so I sit and try to learn as much as I can.
Ya, but I think he is lostLol, I Know that's why I never shot the messenger
Im about to send a posse to look for him :toofunny:
ALR's response was to let him test it, Im waiting to ship
I had sent ALR your initial post of this thread and here is his response to you.
I had sent ALR your initial post of this thread and here is his response to you.
Message to PA from ALR
PA: Thanks for the offer on structure naming but the label and name you used is 1-2 years ago. Since we have informed all of the sites long ago you either have a cached page or the site you searched has not caught up with the rest of us yet. Thanks for the heads up. Let's help make it easy for you this time so you can waste less time on basic chemistry (which you are correct on of course) . We appreciate your input as between BALCO and AMP you would be the go to guy for FDA experience these days and we will certanly have our FDA lawyer take another look. Thank you very much for the caustic but accurate digestion of old labeling. Here is the current label
ADED (5a-dehydro-etiocholane-4,6-dien-3-one-17-ol A.K.A 17a-methyl-5a-dehydro-etiocholane-4,6-dien-3-ene-ol) Many are aware of both the positive and negative physiological issues relating to the naturally occurring aromatase inhibitory ATD. Most of the benefits are the result of one of its physiological 17-OH metabolites. ADED is a natural non-androgenic metabolite of ATD with improved oral bio-availability.
I will ship tomorrow and I hope in between now and your testing people dont drive you nuts !!!!!!! :aargh: 
I don't know what the heck you're talking about. Amp seems the same to me as when it came out. Great product. Gotta disagree with you. Also, he brings up a good point in that we all should demand clearer descriptions on the product we buy. I'll stand up for that argument any time.
I kinda figured that, the shemale thing. Guess I was using up my Monthly Dumbass Question Quota so I can go back to being a Smartass elsewhere.Because it lowers estrogen in women and raises test, so you can build muscle.......... DUH
haha, dude, you need to come to a Pro Show sometime then. I found myself talking with some very nice ladies and saying " I wish I had your traps"
Of course their voice was deeper then mine, and they prolly sported more wood as well :rant:
Don't you mean Sister?
If this is a PS - then it's not very strong (or not dosed nearly high enough at 3 caps/day).
