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clearshot is reminiscent of the old stuff and it hits you very fast
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what is in the rpm that you think makes it work well. i never tried it but i looked at the label once and it seemed unremarkable to me
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strangely enough you have a point - in the psychological or metaphysical sense at leastIf Patrick Arnold hand-made the sample caps pouring his precious sweat and blood and even tears into them, no wonder even the mighty Myth felt the love in those caps!
The stuff on the shelves is made with machines - no love, no soul, no punch. Period. Case closed.
Hey, it's like that with clothes etc. - hand-made denotes simply superior quality or at least bigger numbers on the price tag - can it really be that much different with the supps industry?
anyway, the only thing two things that may have varied is the speed that the capsules release their contents (the samples were very fast i am sure) and the chocamine may be different back then then what it is today
the geranamine and caffeine are definitely the same
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I'm no scientist, I admit, but have a look at the technical writeup and tell me what you think. You can't ignore the feedback from it, it works, and works well! Don't get me wrong, your products are top notch as well, I was just a non-responder to the AMP I bought. If you want to try RPM, let me know, I am sure Dirk would love to have the famous Patrick Arnold try it!
RPM™ by Applied Nutriceuticals™ is so unique it’s literally in a class by itself. RPM is the world’s first Anabolic-Cognitive Energy System Enhancer (A-CESE), where anabolics meet cognitive psy-stimulants!
RPM requires a new and different product categorization because it contains testosterone-like, anti-catabolic, and aromatase-inhibiting properties, while at the same time delivering optimal mind/muscle connection/contraction through unique peripheral vasostimulatory effects and increased cognitive psycho-motor control. No other product on the market today can make this claim. RPM combines P-SARM Synthase AI - a unique blend of research-grade icariin, arginine, naringenin, and oligomeric proanthocyanidins (OPCs), and Methyl-AMP Complex, a powerful blend of methyl-xanthine caffeine and chocamine.
Like all of our products, Applied Nutriceuticals uses only the highest quality ingredients in scientifically-proven doses in RPM as to achieve maximum results. It is classified as a Phytochemical Selective Androgen Reuptake Modulator (P-SARM), which means that it is a phytochemical (plant-derived) compound that mimics the positive effects of pharmaceutical compounds called SARMs. SARMs (Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators) are a future class of drugs that hold great promise to effectively replace traditional anabolic preparations due to their overall effectiveness and absence of negative side-effects that commonly go hand-in hand with anabolic / androgenic steroids. Like their pharmaceutical cousins, P-SARMs exert none of the negative effects on blood lipids (LDLs) or blood pressure associated with many androgens while having pronounced positive effects on muscle mass, strength, bone growth, drive, and sexual function. The efficient oral bioavailability and flexible biochemical structure of P-SARMs provide an excellent alternative to black-market enhancement products - with no downside!
ICARIIN
Icariin is one of the key constituents in the P-SARM Synthase AI component of RPM. Several studies have shown that icariin competes with glucocorticoids for receptor sites in a manner similar to testosterone and improves the testosterone / cortisol ratio. This is caused by several different mechanisms of action; the aforementioned competition with glucocorticoids, via increased testosterone production which is accomplished through increased cAMP (cyclic AMP, a second messenger important in hormone signaling) levels, increased luteininzing hormone (LH) levels, the mimicry of testosterone in spermatogenesis, and decreased prolactin levels. It has been shown that icariin blocks glucocorticoids from binding to cortisol receptors, hence blocking the actions of cortisol. This alone creates an anabolic effect by positively skewing the testosterone / cortisol ratio, which is a trigger for greater protein synthesis, increased aggression, and intensified muscle contractions.
Users of RPM report huge improvements in strength, physique hardness, and positive aggression while using this compound, an effect that can be at least partially attributed to the androgen-mimicking qualities of icariin. RPM promotes increased dopamine levels and decreased prolactin levels, both of which are triggers for increased testosterone. Icariin can also enhance muscle contraction by decreasing the effects of acetylcholinesterase (AChE). Acetylcholine (Ach) is a neurotransmitter necessary for muscle contraction, and AChE is responsible for disabling ACh at the neuromuscular junction. Icariin blocks this disabling action, allowing for ACh to stay at the synapse and better exert its effects for a longer period of time- thus allowing for harder and stronger muscle contractions.
HPTA and Testosterone
Icariin is a selective inhibitor of cyclic guanitric oxidesine monitric oxidephosphate (cGMP)- specific phosphodiasterase type 5 (PDE5 for the purpose of this article). This is a notable characteristic, because PDE5 hydrolyzes cGMP into an inactive molecule. cGMP is important because nitric oxide requires cGMP to moderate vascular control and vasodilation. So essentially, no cGMP; no vasodilation (the “PUMP”), because nitric oxide requires cGMP to work. Conversely, the more cGMP; the more nitric oxide-induced vasodilation - therefore the greater the pumps. Icariin stops PDE5 from disabling cGMP and allows cGMP to extend its activity which increases the effects of nitric oxide in skeletal muscle and allows for a stronger muscle contraction and pump. This is the same way a popular pharmaceutical product – Viagra® – works; which is essentially the most well-known PDE5 inhibitor on the market.
In scientific studies, pure icariin has been found to have roughly one-tenth the PDE5 inhibitory activity and nitric oxide productivity of Viagra®, and the dosage provided in RPM is tailored appropriately to provide similar effects. In short, the PDE5 inhibition displayed by icariin puts RPM in a class above all other nitric oxide enhancers- as “pharmaceutical-strength” results are commonly experienced.
Oligometric Proanthocyanidin
Oligomeric proanthocyanidins (OPCs) are essential components of RPM. OPCs have been shown in numerous studies to have the ability to block the conversion of androgens to estrogens (a process known as aromatizing). OPCs are a refined derivative of grape seed extract and exhibit qualities comparable to several widely marketed pharmaceutical aromatase inhibitors (i.e. Arimidex®). Compounds exhibiting aromatase inhibiting characteristics have been shown to reduce SHBG (steroid hormone binding globulin) as well. This is important because this allows for a dramatic increase in free testosterone, which promotes longer, harder more intense workouts, rapid strength increases, greater protein synthesis, quicker recovery, and increased lipolysis (fat burning). This, coupled with the androgen-mimicking qualities of icariin, gives the product a unique “hardness” enhancing quality unlike anything else available.
OPCs also protect against free radicals and subsequent DNA and oxidative damage, qualities that are extremely important to the hard-training athlete. Oxidative damage is a common occurrence during stress and hard training, and it can have a halting effect on the subject’s gains in lean body mass. Less oxidative damage leads to faster recovery which gives you the ability to train longer and harder.
The nitric oxide-enhancing, vasodilatory properties of OPCs have been documented in countless studies. The flavonitric oxideids contained in OPCs have been shown to increase levels of nitric oxide synthase, the enzyme that allows for the conversion of arginine to nitric oxide. This is a critical element, because nitric oxide synthase competes with arginase for the utilization of the aminitric oxide acid L-arginine. Arginase converts L-arginine into ornthine, and increased arginase and ornthine activity is counteractive to the nitric oxide production pathway. Therefore, by increasing nitric oxide synthase, the flavonitric oxideids in OPCs “crowd out” arginase, allowing for more arginine to be processed into nitric oxide. The result is higher nitric oxide levels and even greater vasodilation, all of which additionally contribute to the unprecedented pumps and muscle hardness that subjects using RPM experience.
Naringin, and its novel component Naringenin, also contribute profound effects within the P-SARM Synthase AI complex. Naringin (and Naringenin) exhibit remarkable anti-aromatase and estrogen-inhibiting properties by decreasing the cytochrome P450arom isoform, which is an enzyme that also allows for the oxidative metabolism for chemical modification and degradation of oral medications. This can have very positive effects on the testosterone / estrogen ratio, and the combination of OPCs and naringenin act synergistically in reducing estrogen; allowing for more circulating free testosterone and all of its associated benefits. Naringin and naringenin have also been shown to enhance the metabolism of caffeine and PDE5 inhibitors such as icariin, allowing for these compounds to be much more effective on a per dose basis - by up to 35%!!!
Action of Anti-Aromatases
L-Arginine is the last component of the P-SARM Synthase AI matrix. L-Arginine is an amino acid that is necessary for cell division, injury healing, ammonia displacement, hormone release, and immune function. Most importantly, L-arginine is necessary for the production of nitric oxide. As mentioned earlier, nitric oxide is derived from arginine and oxygen through a process called nitric oxide synthase, and exerts its effects on tissue through cGMP. The inclusion of Arginine in the P-SARM Synthase AI complex allows for a steady, continuous supply of L-arginine for conversion to nitric oxide, allowing for a more effective product. Numerous research studies document the positive effects of L-Arginine and nitric oxide on increasing lean body mass, and possibly even mediating greater growth hormone response.
Methyl-Xanthine Anhydrous Caffeine (MXAC) is the first component of the Methyl-AMP Complex and is a metabolic stimulant that heightens mental alertness and focus and improves muscle contraction and coordination. MXAC also exerts very strong effects on vasodilation in a process that begins with the activation of norepinephrine and the deactivation of cAMP-PDE (the enzyme that breaks down cAMP). When MXAC acts on a cell, cAMP-PDE can no longer turn cAMP into AMP, so the action of cAMP is prolonged within the cell. When cAMP levels are increased, the blood vessels in skeletal muscle tend to relax and dilate. The result is more voluminous blood flow into the muscle, resulting in bulging vascularity and massive pumps. MXAC also contains significant amounts of theobromine; another vasodilator that ups the amount of nutrients and oxygen into the brain and skeletal muscle. This greater blood flow to the brain contributes to the cognitive enhancement capabilities of MXAC. By blocking adenitric oxidesine uptake without activating adenitric oxidesine receptors, MXAC triggers increased dopamine and serotonin levels which exerts a positive influence on mood and helps the subject maintain an improved state of mind and focus.
Caffeine and Action on Adensoine
Another added benefit of MXAC is the ability to stimulate the central nervous system, which helps users of RPM feel more alert - allowing for enhanced focus and clarity. It also stimulates the neural system to fire muscles into action more effectively via norepinephrine stimulation and by producing changes in calcium activity; stimulating ion transport of potassium into non-contracting tissues. This is important because ion transport helps reduce the increase in blood potassium concentrations during exercise, helping maintain the excitability of the muscle fiber, allowing for a stronger, longer muscle contraction.
Action Potential Muscle Contraction
Chocamine®, the other component of the Methyl-AMP Complex, is a specially standardized cocoa extract comprised of several different important constituents that enhance mood, cognitive awareness, and muscle contraction. PEA, tyramine, and L-tyrosine are the most prevalent constituents of chocamine, and have the biggest impact on the positive effects of the compound. The amino acid tyrosine has profound psycho-stimulant effects that improves cognitive function, as tyrosine is a precursor to the neurotransmitter dopamine. Tyrosine supplementation has been shown to increase dopamine and norepinephrine levels, which can be helpful for increasing athletic ability and cognitive function. Tyrosine also has the ability to ward off exercise-related fatigue by creating a favorable dopamine / serotonin ratio, which can positively alter the subject’s state of mind and reduce mental fatigue. This simple shift in the amino acid ratio can create a large difference in perception and concentration, and higher dopamine levels are closely correlated with increased focus and mood enhancement/anti-depressant activities. Tyrosine has also been shown to reduce or prevent stress-related cognitive impairment, and has been attributed with mild suppression of glucocorticoid secretion.
L-Tyrosine Theobromine
Phenylethylalanine (PEA) and tyramine are two more important constituents of Chocamine. PEA is a biogenic amine derived from the aminitric oxide acid phenylalanine, and it has some effects very similar to amphetamine. It has strong mood-enhancing qualities, along with the ability to increase focus and offset lack of sleep. Tyramine is another biogenic amine found in Chocamine, and is responsible for the increased release of NE in the neurons, creating an excitatory effect on the CNS. It has also been shown to increase dopamine levels and increase the generation of cAMP, and also to aid in lipolysis.
RPM™ by Applied Nutriceuticals™ is so unique it’s literally in a class by itself. RPM is the world’s first Anabolic-Cognitive Energy System Enhancer (A-CESE), where anabolics meet cognitive psy-stimulants!
RPM requires a new and different product categorization because it contains testosterone-like, anti-catabolic, and aromatase-inhibiting properties, while at the same time delivering optimal mind/muscle connection/contraction through unique peripheral vasostimulatory effects and increased cognitive psycho-motor control. No other product on the market today can make this claim. RPM combines P-SARM Synthase AI - a unique blend of research-grade icariin, arginine, naringenin, and oligomeric proanthocyanidins (OPCs), and Methyl-AMP Complex, a powerful blend of methyl-xanthine caffeine and chocamine.
Like all of our products, Applied Nutriceuticals uses only the highest quality ingredients in scientifically-proven doses in RPM as to achieve maximum results. It is classified as a Phytochemical Selective Androgen Reuptake Modulator (P-SARM), which means that it is a phytochemical (plant-derived) compound that mimics the positive effects of pharmaceutical compounds called SARMs. SARMs (Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators) are a future class of drugs that hold great promise to effectively replace traditional anabolic preparations due to their overall effectiveness and absence of negative side-effects that commonly go hand-in hand with anabolic / androgenic steroids. Like their pharmaceutical cousins, P-SARMs exert none of the negative effects on blood lipids (LDLs) or blood pressure associated with many androgens while having pronounced positive effects on muscle mass, strength, bone growth, drive, and sexual function. The efficient oral bioavailability and flexible biochemical structure of P-SARMs provide an excellent alternative to black-market enhancement products - with no downside!
ICARIIN
Icariin is one of the key constituents in the P-SARM Synthase AI component of RPM. Several studies have shown that icariin competes with glucocorticoids for receptor sites in a manner similar to testosterone and improves the testosterone / cortisol ratio. This is caused by several different mechanisms of action; the aforementioned competition with glucocorticoids, via increased testosterone production which is accomplished through increased cAMP (cyclic AMP, a second messenger important in hormone signaling) levels, increased luteininzing hormone (LH) levels, the mimicry of testosterone in spermatogenesis, and decreased prolactin levels. It has been shown that icariin blocks glucocorticoids from binding to cortisol receptors, hence blocking the actions of cortisol. This alone creates an anabolic effect by positively skewing the testosterone / cortisol ratio, which is a trigger for greater protein synthesis, increased aggression, and intensified muscle contractions.
Users of RPM report huge improvements in strength, physique hardness, and positive aggression while using this compound, an effect that can be at least partially attributed to the androgen-mimicking qualities of icariin. RPM promotes increased dopamine levels and decreased prolactin levels, both of which are triggers for increased testosterone. Icariin can also enhance muscle contraction by decreasing the effects of acetylcholinesterase (AChE). Acetylcholine (Ach) is a neurotransmitter necessary for muscle contraction, and AChE is responsible for disabling ACh at the neuromuscular junction. Icariin blocks this disabling action, allowing for ACh to stay at the synapse and better exert its effects for a longer period of time- thus allowing for harder and stronger muscle contractions.
HPTA and Testosterone
Icariin is a selective inhibitor of cyclic guanitric oxidesine monitric oxidephosphate (cGMP)- specific phosphodiasterase type 5 (PDE5 for the purpose of this article). This is a notable characteristic, because PDE5 hydrolyzes cGMP into an inactive molecule. cGMP is important because nitric oxide requires cGMP to moderate vascular control and vasodilation. So essentially, no cGMP; no vasodilation (the “PUMP”), because nitric oxide requires cGMP to work. Conversely, the more cGMP; the more nitric oxide-induced vasodilation - therefore the greater the pumps. Icariin stops PDE5 from disabling cGMP and allows cGMP to extend its activity which increases the effects of nitric oxide in skeletal muscle and allows for a stronger muscle contraction and pump. This is the same way a popular pharmaceutical product – Viagra® – works; which is essentially the most well-known PDE5 inhibitor on the market.
In scientific studies, pure icariin has been found to have roughly one-tenth the PDE5 inhibitory activity and nitric oxide productivity of Viagra®, and the dosage provided in RPM is tailored appropriately to provide similar effects. In short, the PDE5 inhibition displayed by icariin puts RPM in a class above all other nitric oxide enhancers- as “pharmaceutical-strength” results are commonly experienced.
Oligometric Proanthocyanidin
Oligomeric proanthocyanidins (OPCs) are essential components of RPM. OPCs have been shown in numerous studies to have the ability to block the conversion of androgens to estrogens (a process known as aromatizing). OPCs are a refined derivative of grape seed extract and exhibit qualities comparable to several widely marketed pharmaceutical aromatase inhibitors (i.e. Arimidex®). Compounds exhibiting aromatase inhibiting characteristics have been shown to reduce SHBG (steroid hormone binding globulin) as well. This is important because this allows for a dramatic increase in free testosterone, which promotes longer, harder more intense workouts, rapid strength increases, greater protein synthesis, quicker recovery, and increased lipolysis (fat burning). This, coupled with the androgen-mimicking qualities of icariin, gives the product a unique “hardness” enhancing quality unlike anything else available.
OPCs also protect against free radicals and subsequent DNA and oxidative damage, qualities that are extremely important to the hard-training athlete. Oxidative damage is a common occurrence during stress and hard training, and it can have a halting effect on the subject’s gains in lean body mass. Less oxidative damage leads to faster recovery which gives you the ability to train longer and harder.
The nitric oxide-enhancing, vasodilatory properties of OPCs have been documented in countless studies. The flavonitric oxideids contained in OPCs have been shown to increase levels of nitric oxide synthase, the enzyme that allows for the conversion of arginine to nitric oxide. This is a critical element, because nitric oxide synthase competes with arginase for the utilization of the aminitric oxide acid L-arginine. Arginase converts L-arginine into ornthine, and increased arginase and ornthine activity is counteractive to the nitric oxide production pathway. Therefore, by increasing nitric oxide synthase, the flavonitric oxideids in OPCs “crowd out” arginase, allowing for more arginine to be processed into nitric oxide. The result is higher nitric oxide levels and even greater vasodilation, all of which additionally contribute to the unprecedented pumps and muscle hardness that subjects using RPM experience.
Naringin, and its novel component Naringenin, also contribute profound effects within the P-SARM Synthase AI complex. Naringin (and Naringenin) exhibit remarkable anti-aromatase and estrogen-inhibiting properties by decreasing the cytochrome P450arom isoform, which is an enzyme that also allows for the oxidative metabolism for chemical modification and degradation of oral medications. This can have very positive effects on the testosterone / estrogen ratio, and the combination of OPCs and naringenin act synergistically in reducing estrogen; allowing for more circulating free testosterone and all of its associated benefits. Naringin and naringenin have also been shown to enhance the metabolism of caffeine and PDE5 inhibitors such as icariin, allowing for these compounds to be much more effective on a per dose basis - by up to 35%!!!
Action of Anti-Aromatases
L-Arginine is the last component of the P-SARM Synthase AI matrix. L-Arginine is an amino acid that is necessary for cell division, injury healing, ammonia displacement, hormone release, and immune function. Most importantly, L-arginine is necessary for the production of nitric oxide. As mentioned earlier, nitric oxide is derived from arginine and oxygen through a process called nitric oxide synthase, and exerts its effects on tissue through cGMP. The inclusion of Arginine in the P-SARM Synthase AI complex allows for a steady, continuous supply of L-arginine for conversion to nitric oxide, allowing for a more effective product. Numerous research studies document the positive effects of L-Arginine and nitric oxide on increasing lean body mass, and possibly even mediating greater growth hormone response.
Methyl-Xanthine Anhydrous Caffeine (MXAC) is the first component of the Methyl-AMP Complex and is a metabolic stimulant that heightens mental alertness and focus and improves muscle contraction and coordination. MXAC also exerts very strong effects on vasodilation in a process that begins with the activation of norepinephrine and the deactivation of cAMP-PDE (the enzyme that breaks down cAMP). When MXAC acts on a cell, cAMP-PDE can no longer turn cAMP into AMP, so the action of cAMP is prolonged within the cell. When cAMP levels are increased, the blood vessels in skeletal muscle tend to relax and dilate. The result is more voluminous blood flow into the muscle, resulting in bulging vascularity and massive pumps. MXAC also contains significant amounts of theobromine; another vasodilator that ups the amount of nutrients and oxygen into the brain and skeletal muscle. This greater blood flow to the brain contributes to the cognitive enhancement capabilities of MXAC. By blocking adenitric oxidesine uptake without activating adenitric oxidesine receptors, MXAC triggers increased dopamine and serotonin levels which exerts a positive influence on mood and helps the subject maintain an improved state of mind and focus.
Caffeine and Action on Adensoine
Another added benefit of MXAC is the ability to stimulate the central nervous system, which helps users of RPM feel more alert - allowing for enhanced focus and clarity. It also stimulates the neural system to fire muscles into action more effectively via norepinephrine stimulation and by producing changes in calcium activity; stimulating ion transport of potassium into non-contracting tissues. This is important because ion transport helps reduce the increase in blood potassium concentrations during exercise, helping maintain the excitability of the muscle fiber, allowing for a stronger, longer muscle contraction.
Action Potential Muscle Contraction
Chocamine®, the other component of the Methyl-AMP Complex, is a specially standardized cocoa extract comprised of several different important constituents that enhance mood, cognitive awareness, and muscle contraction. PEA, tyramine, and L-tyrosine are the most prevalent constituents of chocamine, and have the biggest impact on the positive effects of the compound. The amino acid tyrosine has profound psycho-stimulant effects that improves cognitive function, as tyrosine is a precursor to the neurotransmitter dopamine. Tyrosine supplementation has been shown to increase dopamine and norepinephrine levels, which can be helpful for increasing athletic ability and cognitive function. Tyrosine also has the ability to ward off exercise-related fatigue by creating a favorable dopamine / serotonin ratio, which can positively alter the subject’s state of mind and reduce mental fatigue. This simple shift in the amino acid ratio can create a large difference in perception and concentration, and higher dopamine levels are closely correlated with increased focus and mood enhancement/anti-depressant activities. Tyrosine has also been shown to reduce or prevent stress-related cognitive impairment, and has been attributed with mild suppression of glucocorticoid secretion.
L-Tyrosine Theobromine
Phenylethylalanine (PEA) and tyramine are two more important constituents of Chocamine. PEA is a biogenic amine derived from the aminitric oxide acid phenylalanine, and it has some effects very similar to amphetamine. It has strong mood-enhancing qualities, along with the ability to increase focus and offset lack of sleep. Tyramine is another biogenic amine found in Chocamine, and is responsible for the increased release of NE in the neurons, creating an excitatory effect on the CNS. It has also been shown to increase dopamine levels and increase the generation of cAMP, and also to aid in lipolysis.
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The speed of the release definitely affects how you "feel" a supp. That alone could explain the accounts of the samples hitting you stronger.
Also, the samples were most likely the first time people tried the product, which could explain some added placebo effect on top of the better rush of the rapid release formula.
Hey, Patrick, how come "strangely enough"?
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RPM is a P-SARM, Patrick.
You probably did not get that just looking at the ingredients on the label. Hmmm, I wonder why it is so!
Well, now you know it!
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I'm no chemist either but to me P-SARM denotes a SARM that is derived from phytochemicals.
So basically RPM (according to the write-up) is a SARM - it's just plant-derived.
So basically RPM (according to the write-up) is a SARM - it's just plant-derived.
See! I told you it's a SARM! I wonder why PA did not invent this earlier! Maybe he's not the great chemist he is cracked up to be!
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Hey, doesn't that constitute a "change in the formula"?
First it was "no change in the formula. Period.". Now it's there might have been a change in the formula.
Not sure who to trust anymore.
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Can you provide any additional information on this? What type of changes and when might we see the new version available?
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All kidding aside - I kind of concur with Patrick's comment - just looking at the ingredients in RPM, one could say the product sounds more or less unremarkable.
If a product consists of L-Arginine, Icariin, Naringin, Grape Seed Extract, Chocamine and Anhydrous Caffeine - chemist or not, the ingredients per se do not strike you as being something "out of this world" innovative or revolutionary.
So, without reading the write-up it's kind of difficult to connect all the pieces together and conclude, "okay, this product is a P-SARM".
I'm not saying Icariin is not a solid ingredient per se (at least the 50% extract is more potent than the Icariin in Horny Goat Weed), we all know the health benefits of potent flavonoids like Naringin and that no one would probably deny ever using a product that would not have contained Grape Seed Extract.
But - and as the Myth probably will concur - the response from the people taking RPM has just been so overwhelmingly good - and knowing that Dirk spent considerable amount of time tweaking the product (well, not sure what that tells) and that the actual product hitting the market was reputed to be even stronger than the samples - I think that is enough to make at least me want to buy the product (and I just ordered mine last week) even though without reading the comments from the people and reading the write-up, probably would not have or at least not so enthuastically, shelled out 29,99$ for RPM.
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Yeah, after the addition of Icariin and Naringin, the new AMP will be a P-SARM, too! JK
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Should I be wary of trying RPM as a college student? As in, will stims wreck my sleep or attention span?
Also, how many capsules do you all take? How many did you start with?
Also, how many capsules do you all take? How many did you start with?
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You would be completly fine running RPM YYZ94.
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Could this have affected the way people have reported feeling a difference between how they felt the AMP "back in the day" versus how they feel it currently?
Seems unlikely but you never know - sometimes the little changes are enough to make a difference.
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Bump for PA - how is the new AMP changing...?
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I though chocamine effected the geranamine oil in a negative way that blunted the effects?
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Agreed- there is nothing "sexy" about the ingredients of RPM- no "special extracts" or "scientific engineering"- one can look at the ingredients of RPM and feel that it is nothing special- BUT, one can TAKE their first dose of RPM and realize that it IS something special.....it's all about the blend and having people to test the effectiveness before product release....
I will take happy customers and an effective product over a product that is less effective with "trendy" ingredients any day of the week
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It will actually help your attention span- as far as wrecking sleep- it all depends on stim sensitivity- my best advice is to simply not take RPM within 5-6 hrs. of bed time...
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:goodpost: :cheers: :goodpost:
Agreed- there is nothing "sexy" about the ingredients of RPM- no "special extracts" or "scientific engineering"- one can look at the ingredients of RPM and feel that it is nothing special- BUT, one can TAKE their first dose of RPM and realize that it IS something special.....it's all about the blend and having people to test the effectiveness before product release....
I will take happy customers and an effective product over a product that is less effective with "trendy" ingredients any day of the week
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Thank you sir!!
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I thought the same thing but maybe its the "Methyl-Xanthine Anhydrous Caffeine" and the amount whatever that is. Alot of people that review products (all brands) give super dooper reviews because they have never used 2 much of anything else (that works). Or its the cool thing to do right now. Thats why I always ask (even with my own products) when someone says, "worked great, loved it, blabla," I ask, "what else have you used, what are u staking this super product with."
edit: Caffeine is a Methyl Xanthine, so maybe thats just listed like that so people will think its some super Methyl caffeine. Anyway its probably the synergy of the ingredients. I didnt know HGW was a "SERM."
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I can't wait for the new AMP.. the old one is just fine for me though. Just the right amount of energy, not too much, appetite is gone for hours and it just makes everything feel damn good.
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i just got a bottle of RPM, are the doses supposed to be spread evenly throughout the day, or should i take the reccomended dosage all at once pre workout? (according to the dosage chart this would mean taking 4 at once)
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AMP - No contest
RPM gives a nice pump and there is definatley some thermogenic effect but for energy and endurance during a workout AMP is streets ahead.
Having said that I have yet to run RMP for any appreciable amount of time. There is definately something going on and I am interested to see what it can do given time. But as above for raw clean energy Amp (or its active ingrediant) is where its at.
RPM gives a nice pump and there is definatley some thermogenic effect but for energy and endurance during a workout AMP is streets ahead.
Having said that I have yet to run RMP for any appreciable amount of time. There is definately something going on and I am interested to see what it can do given time. But as above for raw clean energy Amp (or its active ingrediant) is where its at.
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That just kind of voids what you said in the para above it. Did you take RPM a few times pre-workout? Like how many times. Over 4 times should be enough if its a pre-workout only product.
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I see a lot of hype on this board, and the so called '**** riding' Chuck Diesel speaks about.
And I thought the same thing about when I heard about RPM. And when I got a chance to sample it, my first dose was nice. I was actually kind of stressed out that day, but felt a calming effect. The workout was solid, but did not live up to the hype. I increased my dose and started feeling the benegits!
I have played around with dosing and found my sweet spot. Workouts intense, and I have a clear mental aggression.
I am currently off of RPM now, and I can tell the difference with my workouts. I find that I need to get more mentally prepped. I still have productive workouts, but find it more of a challenge and feel initially my recovery rate was down, but slowing coming back up.
And I thought the same thing about when I heard about RPM. And when I got a chance to sample it, my first dose was nice. I was actually kind of stressed out that day, but felt a calming effect. The workout was solid, but did not live up to the hype. I increased my dose and started feeling the benegits!
I have played around with dosing and found my sweet spot. Workouts intense, and I have a clear mental aggression.
I am currently off of RPM now, and I can tell the difference with my workouts. I find that I need to get more mentally prepped. I still have productive workouts, but find it more of a challenge and feel initially my recovery rate was down, but slowing coming back up.
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When I popped 8 caps it affected my sleep, because I was waking up all night with teh hardness...:stick:
Chuck Diesel
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so whats your "good/great" dosage on this for the results you speak of? I hope its not 8.
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For me personally, It depends on what I am looking for.
4 caps will give me a nice mental age. Good for light volume days
6 caps mental edge and aggression. Good for density training
8 caps mental edge, aggression, and extreme energy boost, for grueling workouts and strength training.
Chuck Diesel
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Ok Im talking within the directions on the bottle, how much do you weigh? Im sure 3x the amp dosage would work for tons of people also.
Dosage Chart----
Body Weight (lbs.) / Dose
Up to 140 / 1 Capsule
140-160 / 2 Capsules
160-180 / 3 Capsules
180-220 / 4 Capsules
220 & up / 5 Capsules
I mean Im guessing this product has 50-75mg of caffeine per capsule so results on 6-8 really shouldnt be taken into cons. for a rating when the dose chart only goes up to 5.
TheMyth
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Everyone is different. My brothers both get the benefits at 3 capsules, I mean even that is too much for them. One gets the "I want to fight somone" mentality from it, the other just wants to workout harder and longer. You just have to try it to see which RPM person you are.
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Currently ~190
When I took AMP, it was for an energy boost, and needed 4-6 caps for the desired effect. Never saw any crazy strength increases or improved libido. In fact it wasn't libido friendly.
When I take RPM, it is pre-wo for the strength and recovery increase. And maybe pop a couple caps pre-coitus.
And comparing AMP and RPM is like comparing Diesel Test to Cell-Tech.
Chuck Diesel
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I was just asking for more detail because these comparisons below are ways to compare with amp:
mental edge, energy, aggression (well I dont know about aggession but I get aggressive from ephedrine), training intensity. If you can throw in libido and strength gains thats a bonus for a pre-workout product, if its good for the basic pre-workout product goals of mental focus, energy, training intensity.
Vitruvian
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The best thing to do would be to back up and add in that RPM is not merely a pre-workout product. It'll hang in there with the herbal anabolics on the market any day.
FrankJ
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So this RPM stuff wont make my d1ck limp like AMP does?
xjsynx
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Nope. It will make it rock hard...
Patrick Arnold
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well i am a scientist and this is nothing but marketing bullcrap. It is a bastardization of real science. I am sorry I ever asked to read this
this may be a wonderful product and something that I might enjoy using. But that will never happen cuz as soon as i read crap like this, its over
what a shame
AnonyMoose
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Pat - are you familiar with SARM technology?
Zombie
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PA im kind of low of cash right now but you know what, ill buy you a RPM bottle. what do you say ?
Patrick Arnold
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yeah they are basically non-steroidal anabolic steroids (yes thats an oxymoron)
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Too many t3wls in this thread...
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Arzi75
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Why would PA have put chocamine in with geranamine if it would negate its effects?
I have never heard chocamine blunting the effect of geranamine, but then again I'm no scientist, either.
So, maybe it was because of this that Patrick changed the chocamine in AMP?
TheMyth
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Apparently not, I am just glad to be working for someone who does!
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Agreed. Received my RPM, by the way, today along with some 6-OXO extreme - will start taking both tomorrow. Some P-SARM against some ATD...Agreed- there is nothing "sexy" about the ingredients of RPM- no "special extracts" or "scientific engineering"- one can look at the ingredients of RPM and feel that it is nothing special- BUT, one can TAKE their first dose of RPM and realize that it IS something special.....it's all about the blend and having people to test the effectiveness before product release....
I will take happy customers and an effective product over a product that is less effective with "trendy" ingredients any day of the week
Is Resveratrol a "trendy" ingredient?
Arzi75
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Oh oh, here we go again!
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Have you taken a Resveratrol product before?Agreed. Received my RPM, by the way, today along with some 6-OXO extreme - will start taking both tomorrow. Some P-SARM against some ATD...
Is Resveratrol a "trendy" ingredient?
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Alright, looks like Im ordering a bottle. Last weekend I resorted to the old Cialis crutch, although I didnt need it last night.
Its like Im right on the edge, so if RPM has beneficial properties its probably all I need.
Hydroxycut Hardcore Gelcaps sure got me rock hard, but made me all jittery and sick feeling also.
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