4ad as HRT, could it work?

[bigmark1972]

Just curious if you could use trans 4ad or pin an esterfied version long term for a "legal" HRT. Is transdermal any harder on the liver than pinning? How toxic is 4ad in the first place? Just curious since it is such a cheap compound. I have done some snooping but have found little on the toxicity of 4ad.

 

[Matthew D]

HRT is legal.. you just have to have a script from you doctor and he monitors you

 

[Lean One]

HRT is legal.. you just have to have a script from you doctor and he monitors you

Yeah, if you really do need it, just get a script for the real stuff from your doctor. Besides, 4AD isn't gonna be legal for much longer, So the " long term legal" concept is kinda shot.

 

[hogiejoe]

but his question was, would it work? sorry i dont have an answer.

 

[supersoldier]

Sure it would work, but how would you monitor testosterone levels?

 

[bigmark1972]

Well, I could make a good guess based on the conversion/dose/etc, I would error on the HIGH SIDE, I assure you this would not be an option if I got my Dr involved I do blood work on my own anyways.


I guess I know it could work was really looking for info on the toxicity.

Eventually I will go that route, I'm in a bit of a legal pinch right now and I don't wanna mess with it right now. (There is a method to my madness)

 

[hogiejoe]

yeah that would definetely be harsh on the liver if you were on thta your whole life

 

[jminis]

It could be used as HRT I guess but there's no reason that anyone should do it. Why would someone use 4ad which has to convert when you can just get testosterone legally?

 

[jminis]

It could be used as HRT I guess but there's no reason that anyone should do it. Why would someone use 4ad which has to convert when you can just get testosterone legally?

 

[dickwootton]

for the dosages used for hrt (about 200 mgs of test cyp every week or every other week) you would prolly want to run about 600 mgs of 4ad a week. I truly dont think the toxicity would be that bad on the liver. Especially if you to milk thistle and r ala...It isnt methylated so there wouldnt be a problem with liver toxicity there. It would not be any more toxic than running test cyp. I would however run about 10 mgs of nolva to combat estrogenic sides...If i am incorrect guys feel free to correct me.
Dick

 

[Sldge]

there is no toxicity issues, since I assume you would be injecting. we could guess on an amount based off of SS bloodwork results. the reason for wanting to use 4 ad or regular HRT therapy is not everyone has ins. or can afford copays, etc.

also lets say you get blood work done and you are on the high side o fnormal (which isnt high enough if ask me) then you wont be able to get a script fo rit, with 4 ad you dont need a script, as of today.

 

[MarcusG]

Looking at SS's 4AD injectable results, test levels are approx 25% using 4AD instead of real test. Suppression would also be worse on 4AD then real test I think.

 

[bigmark1972]

also lets say you get blood work done and you are on the high side o fnormal (which isnt high enough if ask me) then you wont be able to get a script fo rit, with 4 ad you dont need a script, as of today.

Yeah, thats pretty much my reasoning.....

 

[slewdem]

Yeah, thats pretty much my reasoning.....

1. buy syno
2. remove estro
3. remove ester
4. place resulting powder into t-gel

 

[azgymrat]

I contacted a local clinic on HRT and they compound 4AD in a transdermal, no reason not to do it yourself. I don't think toxicity is an issue but would not want to use DMSO for ever. Why should you have to pay a Dr. for something that should be your decission.

 

[slewdem]

I contacted a local clinic on HRT and they compound 4AD in a transdermal, no reason not to do it yourself. I don't think toxicity is an issue but would not want to use DMSO for ever. Why should you have to pay a Dr. for something that should be your decission.

check avant's forum on 4ad and hrt.

someone had posted some nice results with their 4ad/hrt trial run.

http://forum.avantlabs.com/?act=ST&f=1&t=7349&hl=&

 

[bigmark1972]

Thanks for the link, soon to be a moot point I fear.

 

[Billy the kid]

1. buy syno
2. remove estro
3. remove ester
4. place resulting powder into t-gel

You forgot number 5.

5. Get gyno from unremoved estro

 

[azgymrat]

Thanks for the link, soon to be a moot point I fear.

If I was you I'd just order a kilo or two before the ban, might be enough for a couple of years at least. Should be able to pick it up for 3-4 hundred each, maybe less.

 

[bigmark1972]

You forgot number 5.

5. Get gyno from unremoved estro

You forgot number 1.

I'm on probation if I break the law I goto jail.

Yeah I could convert (illegal) synovex with my arms tied behind my back blindfolded, I could do lots of things but the government has me under it's big greasy thumb.

but would not want to use DMSO for ever

I agree but the recipe I am using has only 10% if it is a prob i'll drop it to 5.

 

[dg806]

It's the HDL/LDL ratio that you would have to be concerned with over a period of time.

 

[profbiv]

1. buy syno
2. remove estro
3. remove ester
4. place resulting powder into t-gel

1. ok
2 use kit
3 kit
4 place resulting powder into oil
5 follow other steps
6 inject for best results



7 buy fina
8 convert w/kit no heat
9 add to cycle
10 many weeks later do PCT

hehehehe