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I just brewed up some 4 HT cyp at 100mg/ml, what is a good weekly dose to run it at?
In my experience with it, which is limited, it is not a very strong anabolic. I'm assuming that you plan to stack with something else?I just brewed up some 4 HT cyp at 100mg/ml, what is a good weekly dose to run it at?
Mmmman, I would really appreciate it if you would post the recipe for making 4-OHT Cyp. I have some pre-ban solution and powder. But word is it's a very hard compound to suspend--worse than 1-T. I've been trying to find a kit for it for long time now, but haven't been successful.I just brewed up some 4 HT cyp at 100mg/ml, what is a good weekly dose to run it at?
I used 2g's of powder, made 20ml/100mg/ml
5% ba
15%bb
filtered and heated at 250 for 45 minutes.
It's been a week and it seems to be holding up pretty good. I heat it before I pin it so it runs through easier.
I got it from CNW. After my show this Saturday I'm going to run about 600 or 700mg's 4HT a week along with some test, dbol and throw some tren in at the end.
That's great news. I got mine from CNW too.did you get it from custom nutrition warehouse or from designersupps? Reason I'm asking is because people who got there's from CNW have had no problems getting it into solution, even at 250mg/ml, but Designersupps' stuff won't disolve. I'm not making any accusations but...
You lost me there. Why would powder from CNW not be good news, especially in light of the problems you describe with DS's powder?That may not be great news, depending on who you trust more DS or CNW. I know they're both sponsors and don't want to start troublel. But here it goes:
Using DS's 4-OHT-cyp powder, I originally tried 5%ba, 15% BB. Heated didn't even have time to crash. While heating this gooky stuff formed at the bottom.
Jacked the BB up to 30%, heated (250, 45 mins). Crashed as soon as it cooled. So either DS or CNW were selling bunk powder, or something alltogther different. For the sake decency, I won't mention who'd I put my money on in terms of powder purity.
I'm not knocking either CNW or DS. I'm just saying that ONE of them was selling a powder that was not 4-OHT-Cyp. It's well documented, and both Sledge and Dazed can back me up w/ this, that 4HT-cyp is notoriously difficult to get to stay in solution. Dazed's "oil/solvent," that gets practically anything into solution, didn't even work. Maybe Sledge can chime in on this.You lost me there. Why would powder from CNW not be good news, especially in light of the problems you describe with DS's powder?
I have CNW powder also and it's holding at 5% BA, 30%BB and 120mg. I started at 5%BA, 15%BB at 150mg and it was crashing. So I added more BB and bit more BA to bring the BA back to 5% and now it's holding for the most part. Yesterday I noticed some icicle like crystals in the bottom of the vial, but they dissipated when I heated it. It was still fine this morning. I've used it for the last 4 days and it doesn't hurt. So far so good.
Well I think that settles that settles that. I'm sure Sledge has the same stance cuz We've been discussing putting this compound into solution for some time now.I can only say that I used powder sent from DS and it would not go into solution with 5%BA and 15%BB, no way.
I would be suspect of powder labeled as a 4-hydroxy if it was soluble in 5%BA, 15%BB and oil.
This is not specifically against anyone, just saying in general for powders that have 4-hydroxys, I believe the above to be true.
And no, my original oil solvent doesn't work with it, but I have one that does now.
CN,Hmm...I just saw this thread so I apologize for not responding earlier. I have, and always will stand behind whatever I sell. I actually purchased the 4HT from a US vendor who had it sitting in their warehouse for a decent amount of time. Point is, they third party tested it when origionally imported and I trust what they told me. So, if anyone is not happy with their powder from me, I will gladly provide a credit or refund, but I honestly do not anticapate anyone will have the need to take up that offer...
Dazed, is this available on your site yet?I can only say that I used powder sent from DS and it would not go into solution with 5%BA and 15%BB, no way.
It took some trying, but I did get it to go at 100mg/ml.
I have experimented before this with formestane from bulknutrition in the past and with my discussions on it with other steroid savvy people, it is very insoluble in oil and I would be suspect of powder labeled as a 4-hydroxy if it was soluble in 5%BA, 15%BB and oil.
This is not specifically against anyone, just saying in general for powders that have 4-hydroxys, I believe the above to be true.
And no, my original oil solvent doesn't work with it, but I have one that does now.
CN,
You're a good man. As I noted above, mine is holding in the solution at 5%BA and 30%BB. I like this stuff, so I won't be taking you up the offer. Thanks for that though. Question for you though: have you run accross anyone who is consistently successful at getting this into a solution? I'd like to lay my hands on the perfect recipe. Got my 5/30 mix set up in a kind of round about way. I'd rather just do it right the first time. Please let us know. Thanks.
I had mine tested 4 different times, including twice by PA. Mine is/was very pure 4OHT Cyp (97%+). I had it tested so many times because I thought it was fake and I was hoping to return it since I couldnt not keep it in solution above 40mgs/ml.Well I think that settles that settles that. I'm sure Sledge has the same stance cuz We've been discussing putting this compound into solution for some time now.
The addition of the cyp doesnt improve its solubility enough to be any higher then 100 or i would have done it. If it were an undec. or diprop ester it would probably be better and easier, but thats not for homebrew IMO.All I have to say about the powder is that the stuff from CNW feels the same (after a few weeks of course) as OHT base that I had in solution at 35mg/ml. If I could get the base powder in solution at 35mg then I would expect cyp to go in at 100.
What kind of oil did you use as a carrier?I used 2g's of powder, made 20ml/100mg/ml
5% ba
15%bb
filtered and heated at 250 for 45 minutes.
It's been a week and it seems to be holding up pretty good. I heat it before I pin it so it runs through easier.
As far as it being banned, no comment. :banned: Some guys still have some left over from the days before the ban.back in the pre-ban era(P.B.E.) Massive creatures roamed the earth in search of scorched carcasses, fresh greens, fat burning compounds, and exogonous hormones.
My ancestors belonged to this sub-group of Homo sapiens: Hetero muscleheadiens. Anyway, 4-OHT-cyp, when in a painless solution (which to this day, even using Sledge's old recipie, I still cannot get to stay in solution), using it @ 400-600mg/week provided excellent muscle-preservation and partitioning effects. stacked very well w/ test, as my ancestors didn't even need an anti-aromatase drug to avoid bloating, and it got them in the best shape of their lives.
All this is a moot point (you know, like a cow's opinion :rofl:, a moot point) as A: it's banned and you might as well get some EQ, and B: I could never get it into solution myself anyway.
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