2a3a EPI cycle (First cycle)

[Seanington]

Hi everyone,

Not actually going ahead with this cycle as of yet. Have successfully run ostarine in the past. I would just like some info on the following proposed cycle:

Proposed compound:
EPI by Brawn Nutrition: 2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol – 10mg (per cap)

Cycle:
Weeks 1 -6 ~ EPI 20/30/30/30/40/40 (doses spaced 12 hours apart)
Weeks 1-6 ~ BlackStoneLabs Gear Support @ 2 caps e/d (taken at noon)

PCT:
Weeks 7-10 ~ Clomiphene 50/50/50/50 OR Nolvadex 20/20/20/20
Weeks 7-10 ~ BlackStoneLabs Gear Support @ 2 caps e/d (taken at noon)
Weeks 7-10 ~ IronMagLabs Ultra Male @ 1 cap e/d
Weeks 11-14 ~ Blackstone labs Eradicate @ 3 caps e/d (spaced evenly)
Weeks 11-14 ~ BlackStoneLabs Gear Support @ 1 cap e/d (taken at noon)

Stats:
Age: 24
Weight: 180lbs @ 10% bf
Experience: Training 6 years (5 days per week)
Diet: On point

Good 2 go when I'm ready?

 

[yates84]

Taper your serm in pct. Clomid 50/50/25/25 or Nolva 20/20/10/10. Start eradicate on week 9 and just run 2 weeks past your serm. Exemestane would be a good thing to have, I always keep a bottle on hand in case of estrogen sides. You never know when they might come up.

 

[707kid]

^^^^ This. Serm doses are high. Also your Epi doses are a little low. I dont know if youll get the desired effects with that dosage. 30/30/40/40/40/40 or 30/40/40/40/40/40 might work better.

 

[Afi140]

What these guys said about the serm. Looks very well planned. Only suggestion might be some reduce xt to keep cortisol In check during pct but other than that it looks solid.

 

[Tabascoonall]

As said above, reduce XT helped me tons pct on epi. other then that might want to bump up the dosage of epi. switch the 20s for 30s. but that is just my humble option. Good luck man, DM me if you have any further questions throughout your cycle. i will for sure follow if you log

 

[booneman77]

Third for reduce XT. cortisol is a killer in pct for me.

Also, def have a better AI at least on hand for pct as arimistane may not be enough to control estro rebound. exemestane is your best bet. It'll also help with recovery and you can eliminate the Eradicate since you'll have the real stuff

 

[Dma378]

Also agree to start Epi at 30. 20 is a waste of a week.

 

[MrVascular]

If you are only going with one SERM imma advocate for Nolva, or maybe Torem. You might choose to stack but seems a little unnecessary on what should be a relatively mild cycle.

 

[Seanington]

Thanks everyone for your input. Like I said in my OP.. Not starting the cycle yet but will be purchasing the stuff.

So to change it up a bit:

Cycle:
Weeks 1 -6 ~ EPI 30/30/30/40/40/40 (doses spaced 12 hours apart)
Weeks 1-6 ~ BlackStoneLabs Gear Support @ 2 caps e/d (taken at noon)

PCT:
Weeks 7-10 ~ Nolvadex 20/20/10/10
Weeks 7-10 ~ BlackStoneLabs Gear Support @ 2 caps e/d (taken at noon)
Weeks 7-10 ~ IronMagLabs Ultra Male @ 1 cap e/d
Weeks 7-10 ~ Reduce XT @ 3 caps ed (AM, Noon, PM)
Weeks 9-12 ~ Blackstone labs Eradicate @ 3 caps e/d (spaced evenly)
Weeks 11-14 ~ BlackStoneLabs Gear Support @ 1 cap e/d (taken at noon)

Regarding the AI (exemestane), I am not able to get my hands on it as I live in Australia. Will running BSL Eradicate as I have laid it out be alright? I read that aromatization is not a major issue regarding EPI. If there are any other suggestions on an AI brand I could use that I can get my hands on that would be great. I'm assuming IronMagLabs E-Control will do the same thing BSL Eradicate will. I should be able to get PES Erase PRO (if its a better option from the two aforementioned AI's).

Thanks fellas.

 

[Dma378]

On cycle estrogen not a huge concern with Epistane. It is in and after pct that it becomes one..."estrogen rebound". When your hormones are still balancing out and you come off of your SERM, estrogen can rise in rebound. Hence why I typically start exemestane week 3 of pct and taper it down for 3 weeks past my SERM.

Will Eradicate or Erase work? Sure, maybe, I don't know.

 

[booneman77]

Start reduce xt in week 2 or 3 of pct. if you want to start at the beginning, run two bottles for a full 8 weeks

for the ai... you're really taking oyur chances with just an otc. It might work, but you could also end up with some serious issues. Also, a good ai will help your recovery as well so its kind of a double win just to get something regardless of how difficult.

 

[Seanington]

Thanks for advice booneman77. After a more comprehensive search.. I can get "Aromasin 12.5mg" (exemestane)

Cycle:
Weeks 1 -6 ~ EPI 30/30/30/40/40/40 (doses spaced 12 hours apart)
Weeks 1-6 ~ BlackStoneLabs Gear Support @ 2 caps e/d (taken at noon)

PCT:
Weeks 7-10 ~ Nolvadex 20/20/10/10
Weeks 7-10 ~ BlackStoneLabs Gear Support @ 2 caps e/d (taken at noon)
Weeks 7-10 ~ IronMagLabs Ultra Male @ 1 cap e/d
Weeks 9-12 ~ Reduce XT @ 3 caps ed (AM, Noon, PM)
Weeks 9-12 ~ Aromasin @ 1 cap e/d (12.5mg) - When should I dose it?
Weeks 11-14 ~ BlackStoneLabs Gear Support @ 1 cap e/d (taken at noon)

Thanks again

 

[yates84]

Thanks for advice booneman77. After a more comprehensive search.. I can get "Aromasin 12.5mg" (exemestane)

Cycle:
Weeks 1 -6 ~ EPI 30/30/30/40/40/40 (doses spaced 12 hours apart)
Weeks 1-6 ~ BlackStoneLabs Gear Support @ 2 caps e/d (taken at noon)

PCT:
Weeks 7-10 ~ Nolvadex 20/20/10/10
Weeks 7-10 ~ BlackStoneLabs Gear Support @ 2 caps e/d (taken at noon)
Weeks 7-10 ~ IronMagLabs Ultra Male @ 1 cap e/d
Weeks 9-12 ~ Reduce XT @ 3 caps ed (AM, Noon, PM)
Weeks 9-12 ~ Aromasin @ 1 cap e/d (12.5mg) - When should I dose it?
Weeks 11-14 ~ BlackStoneLabs Gear Support @ 1 cap e/d (taken at noon)

Thanks again

You could get away with the aromasin at 12.5mg every other day

 

[Seanington]

Would I still run it EOD for weeks 9-12 though? or extend the length of time I run it?

 

[Seanington]

Hey again guys I'm really sorry to keep asking questions. I am only able to get research chem exemestane. I hear ironmaglabs research is good to go.

Can I please get some advise as to whether this product will be good to run in my pct instead of pharma aromasin as I cannot obtain it.

I will run the cycle at a later date as I have laid it out above.. Swapping the aromasin caps for equivalent 12.5mg of iml exemestane EOD.

 

[mixedup]

If you are only going with one SERM imma advocate for Nolva, or maybe Torem. You might choose to stack but seems a little unnecessary on what should be a relatively mild cycle.

Alot of people like nolva but forget that it's also liver toxic which is why I recommend Clomid on a methyl only cycle why tax your liver an extra 4 weeks

 

[Dma378]

Hey again guys I'm really sorry to keep asking questions. I am only able to get research chem exemestane. I hear ironmaglabs research is good to go.

Can I please get some advise as to whether this product will be good to run in my pct instead of pharma aromasin as I cannot obtain it.

I will run the cycle at a later date as I have laid it out above.. Swapping the aromasin caps for equivalent 12.5mg of iml exemestane EOD.

Most people on here probably use RC AI's . Can't speak for that company as I've never used them. They are a board sponsor and that can be a good sign.

 

[Seanington]

I'd just like to lay this cycle out one final time before I start slowly buying the items.

Weeks 1-6 ~ epi @ 30/30/30/40/40/40 (am/pm dosing)
Weeks 1-6 ~ BSL gear support @ 2 caps e/d (noon dosing)

Pct:
Weeks 7-10 ~ clomiphene 50/50/25/25 (am dose)
Weeks 7-12 ~ BSL gear support @ 2 caps e/d (noon dosing)
Weeks 7-10 ~ IML ultra male @ 1 cap e/d
Weeks 9-12 ~ IML exemestane @ 12.5mg dose EOD
Weeks 9-12 ~ reduce XT @ 3 caps e/d (am, noon, pm)

Cycle length is 12 weeks as you can see. Probably start it in a few months. Will get bloods before and after to make sure I'm back to normal but from my research I believe I am good to go.

Any final feedback before I put this to bed and start purchasing slowly?

 

[Seanington]

Bump.

 

[yates84]

You're gtg, looks good

 

[LeanEngineer]

Yep i think it looks good. You can pick up your reduce xt and IML 's ultra male at Strong Supplement Shop if you still need to.

 

[booneman77]

Ironmag Labs exem???? Unless its a different brand than the guys making the normal ph's and such I would be skeptical here...