2017 NFL Draft & Season Chat Thread

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Brad Childress will now serve as Chiefs' Asst HC and Matt Nagy will be team's Offensive Coordinator.
Giants release WR Victor Cruz, RB Rashad Jennings
49ers expected to hire Robert Saleh as defensive coordinator
Aqib Talib on the cutting block in Denver
Former Alabama star LB Reuben Foster had shoulder surgery, will miss combine drills
Former Miami Dolphins and University of Georgia defensive end Quentin Moses died Sunday morning in a house fire that also killed a woman and her child.

the Patriots filed to trademark the phrase "Blitz for Six," hoping to use it on clothing -- including hooded T-shirts, of course. Coach Bill Belichick is known for wearing Patriots hoodies.

 

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NFL Network's Mike Garofolo reports the Seahawks have escaped with merely a warning for failing to list Richard Sherman's MCL issue on the injury report.

Per Garofolo, the league was lenient because it deemed the violation a "misinterpretation of rules." The Seahawks claimed they believed they didn't have to list Sherman since he was practicing in full. As one of the league's preeminent boundary pushers, along with New England and Baltimore, that explanation is a little hard to believe.

 

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On Tuesday, Steelers.com announced the signing of several players that included linebacker Akil Blount, the son of Steelers' Hall of Fame cornerback, Mel Blount.
Pittsburgh also signed lineman Mike Matthews, the son of Hall of Fame lineman Bruce Matthews,
LB Jason Fanaika
Lineman Kyle Friend

http://pit.247sports.com/Gallery/Steelers-sign-Mel-Blounts-son-four-other-players-Tuesday-51292013/GallerySlides/476450

 

[jimbuick]

Anybody else really happy that scw vanished after the Cowboys loss? Hopefully, it stays that way.

 

[jswain34]

Hahaha. Yes.

 

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Jaguars re-sign Abry Jones to 4-year, $16M deal
Robert Meachem jailed for owing $400K in alimony, child support

The Jaguars announce they have restructured quarterback Chad Henne's contract for the 2017 season. Terms of the deal were not disclosed


Draft:
Mel Kiper Jr. says Jabrill Peppers (Michigan Athlete) could be a fit for the Patriots at the end of the NFL draft 1st rd.
Mel Kiper Jr. has seven defensive players going in the top 10 of his 2017 Mock Draft 2.0, which would be tied for the most defensive players selected in the top 10 in the Common Draft Era (Allen and Garrett going #1 and #2)

 

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Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis is being investigated by Pittsburgh police for his involvement in a street altercation with two other men over the weekend.

While Revis has not been arrested, police say charges are pending against the four-time All-Pro and include robbery, terroristic threats, conspiracy and aggravated assault.

The Miami Dolphins released veteran defensive players Mario Williams and Earl Mitchell on Thursday, freeing up $12.5 million on their salary cap, but starting left tackle Branden Albert wasn't also released as expected.

The Steelers have begun negotiating a contract with wide receiver Antonio Brown that would keep him in Pittsburgh for the rest of his career.

Jaguars don't pick up option on Kelvin Beachum, who could be FA on March 9

Patriots' Brian Daboll is candidate for Crimson Tide OC job

 

[rugger48]

2017 NFL Draft & Season Chat Thread

Brady was just being gracious when speaking about manning.

 

[jimbuick]

Brady was just being gracious when speaking about manning.

That's the coolest story I've ever had the pleasure of reading.

Would you like to share the secret of your omniscience with me? I, too, would like to be able to read people's minds.

 

[rugger48]

2017 NFL Draft & Season Chat Thread

That's the coolest story I've ever had the pleasure of reading.

Would you like to share the secret of your omniscience with me? I, too, would like to be able to read people's minds.

You do know Brady has some emails leaked that he wrote concerning manning right? How did tom act around goodell, You think he is going to say anything controversial and look bad, he is going to say the right thing every time a mic is in his face.

Common sense maybe?

 

[jimbuick]

You do know Brady has some emails leaked that he wrote concerning manning right? How did tom act around goodell, You think he is going to say anything controversial and look bad, he is going to say the right thing every time a mic is in his face.

Common sense maybe?

When were the emails written? Did they say that he believed Peyton was not one of the greatest ever, or did they say that he was going to have to retire soon and that Brady would still have 5 years?

Is it possible he felt a different way in 2011 than he did when he wrote the emails years later?

Share your omniscience with us, so that we may all learn from you.

 

[rugger48]

2017 NFL Draft & Season Chat Thread

I remember when I was young.

Emails were around the same time he made that statement. What did you think he was going to say " ya I'm much better than manning, I have more talent in my thumb than manning has in his whole body"

All you have to do is see how he handled the goodell situation.

Same thing manning would do in his situation.

 

[jimbuick]

I remember when I was young.

Emails were around the same time he made that statement. What did you think he was going to say " ya I'm much better than manning, I have more talent in my thumb than manning has in his whole body"

All you have to do is see how he handled the goodell situation.

Same thing manning would do in his situation.

You think so? I didn't know 3.5 years after was considered "around the same time."

Things he could have said: "Well, you know Peyton is a great QB, extremely hardworking, talented, etc. Just being in the same company with guys like him is an honor." i.e. the same thing every other NFL player says when asked those types of questions. That would have been much different than I think "he is the greatest of all time."

Do you know what the confirmation bias is?

 

[rugger48]

2017 NFL Draft & Season Chat Thread

No your right tom walks around thinking manning is the greatest Qb ever....


Do you know what gracious means?

 

[Woody]

Do you know what the confirmation bias is?

Sometimes I wonder if you even believe half the stuff you're arguing or if you just argue to argue lol

 

[rugger48]

Revis in some trouble, he is going to lose some money here, most likely 6 million at least. Obviously not guilty, but 4 felonies and video doesn't look good.

 

[jimbuick]

No your right tom walks around thinking manning is the greatest Qb ever....


Do you know what gracious means?

Here's the thing though, I am not asserting that Brady does that. I only shared the interview because I had just seen it. I didn't present it as irrefutable fact that proved Peyton was better.

I am only asserting that none of us know what Brady is thinking because we are not Tom Brady and mind reading is fiction. You are the only one who is trying to make a claim to know what is going through another person's mind.

I'll take that as a no and explain it. The confirmation bias is the phenomenon where a person only seeks out information that confirms the opinion they already hold, or discredit any information that contradicts it.

In this context, it would be immediately interpreting something in a way that confirms what you believe and not believing there are any other possibilities outside of the one that you came up with.

Sometimes I wonder if you even believe half the stuff you're arguing or if you just argue to argue lol

A little of both, typically. I enjoy academic argument. The big thing that I should make clear is that I am not hoping, or attempting, to persuade people to believe what I believe. I only want to represent my beliefs and support them in a way where another person could read them and say "Yeah, that's a reasonable position. I don't agree, but I can see the logic in it."

 

[rugger48]

Here's the thing though, I am not asserting that Brady does that. I only shared the interview because I had just seen it. I didn't present it as irrefutable fact that proved Peyton was better.

I am only asserting that none of us know what Brady is thinking because we are not Tom Brady and mind reading is fiction. You are the only one who is trying to make a claim to know what is going through another person's mind.

I'll take that as a no and explain it. The confirmation bias is the phenomenon where a person only seeks out information that confirms the opinion they already hold, or discredit any information that contradicts it.

In this context, it would be immediately interpreting something in a way that confirms what you believe and not believing there are any other possibilities outside of the one that you came up with.

A little of both, typically. I enjoy academic argument. The big thing that I should make clear is that I am not hoping, or attempting, to persuade people to believe what I believe. I only want to represent my belief and support them in a way where another person could read them and say "Yeah, that's a reasonable position. I don't agree, but I can see the logic in it."

umm. Jim you are really way over thinking this. All I said was that brady was being gracious and made some examples. Your turning into something completely different.

Do me a favor and don't go to a casino and play poker, your bad at it.


Oh ya Jim, don't ask people on the internet what something means unless your being rrhetorical, you know, because its the internet/

 

[rugger48]

On Peyton Manning, one player's opinion:



Without Google, can anyone guess who said this?

Note: not trying to rekindle the argument, just sharing an old interview I recently stumbled upon.

Yep. Eli with the 25th and Peyton with the 23rd.

yes I'm a mind reader.

 

[rugger48]

Poker baaaaad Jim


washing hands every half hour goooood

 

[jimbuick]

umm. Jim you are really way over thinking this. All I said was that brady was being gracious and made some examples. Your turning into something completely different.

Do me a favor and don't go to a casino and play poker, your bad at it.


Oh ya Jim, don't ask people on the internet what something means unless your being rrhetorical, you know, because its the internet/

Jokes on you. I've literally never lost money playing poker.

yes I'm a mind reader.

I'm not, so I'm going to need you to clarify what your point is.

 

[rugger48]

Jokes on you. I've literally never lost money playing poker.

I'm not, so I'm going to need you to clarify what your point is.

Lets see if other people can figure it out so we can see your disconnect.


Looks like woody probably figured it out before me with his comment on Eli being the GOAT. I bet that comment went right over your head.

 

[jimbuick]

Lets see if other people can figure it out so we can see your disconnect.


Looks like woody probably figured it out before me with his comment on Eli being the GOAT. I bet that comment went right over your head.

Perhaps someone else could. I'm much more literal when having a discussion with someone because I don't want to assume their meaning.

As in, you literally have shown time and time again that you have no idea what you're talking about.

"Wrong again, Peyton has only been to three SBs" Been to 4.

"Actually, the emails were around the same time as the interview." 3.5 years later.

"Brady wrote emails that said what he really thinks about Manning." The emails were only conjecture about how long Manning had left before retiring and said nothing about how good Brady thought he was or wasn't.

Just sit down, man. If you want to start an argument at least be prepared to support your opinions.

 

[rugger48]

2017 NFL Draft & Season Chat Thread

Perhaps someone else could. I'm much more literal when having a discussion with someone because I don't want to assume their meaning.

As in, you literally have shown time and time again that you have no idea what you're talking about.

"Wrong again, Peyton has only been to three SBs" Been to 4.

"Actually, the emails were around the same time as the interview." 3.5 years later.

"Brady wrote emails that said what he really thinks about Manning." The emails were only conjecture about how long Manning had left before retiring and said nothing about how good Brady thought he was or wasn't.

Just sit down, man. If you want to start an argument at least be prepared to support your opinions.

I did support my opinions I just don't need tit for tat all day with you because you lack common sense.

 

[jimbuick]

I did support my opinions I just don't need tit for tat all day with you because you lack common sense.

If that were true you wouldn't have felt the need to comment on a post made close to a week ago.

Also, you did not support them especially well since your primary rebuttal was always something akin to screaming "wrong" whenever you heard something you didn't like. Like those instances I quoted above.

 

[jimbuick]

I also think it's hilarious that you would mention my apparent lack of common sense based entirely on your inability to understand that what you claim is common sense is nothing more than your confirmation bias.

 

[rugger48]

I also think it's hilarious that you would mention my apparent lack of common sense based entirely on your inability to understand that what you claim is common sense is nothing more than your confirmation bias.

go wash your hands again jim.

 

[jimbuick]

go wash your hands again jim.

Except for how I never did that. Any more incredibly ignorant statements you would like me to refute to further prove how little you actually know?

 

[rugger48]

Except for how I never did that. Any more incredibly ignorant statements you would like me to refute to further prove how little you actually know?

rofl

 

[jimbuick]

rofl

Pop quiz: How many superbowls has Peyton played in?

 

[rugger48]

Pop quiz: How many superbowls has Peyton played in?

Peyton who?

 

[jimbuick]

Top 12 greatest QBs of all time, a Patriots fan's perspective:

1. Tom Brady
2. Terry Bradshaw
2a. Joe Montana
4. Troy Aikman
5. Bob Griese
5a. Peyton Manning
5b. Jim Plunkett
5c. Roger Staubach
5d. Eli Manning
5e. John Elway
5f. Ben Roethlisberger
5g. Bart Starr


Lololololol.

 

[jimbuick]

Peyton who?

Why don't you use that vaunted common sense and figure it out.

 

[jimbuick]

It's not like it would make a difference since we already established that you don't know in the 2016 thread.

 

[rugger48]

You going to make it jim. lol




pssst: I'm a steelers fans

 

[jimbuick]

You going to make it jim. lol




pssst: I'm a steelers fans

Did I say anything about you in that post? Feel free to point to it for me.

Pssst: Not everything's about you, no matter what your mommy told you when you were little. Also, if you are experiencing multiple personality disorder, you should go see a professional.

 

[rugger48]

Goff working with Tom House and Adam Dedeaux. good choice they have developed good players.


Lloyd plead guilty to his DUI, how long does he get suspeneded for?

 

[rugger48]

Romo expects to be released. who has more clout in dallas, jerry or stephen? If I'm a dallas fan, I'm hoping Stephan at this point.

 

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Jets' Darrelle Revis turns himself in to police in Pittsburgh

Patriots' Michael Floyd starts 24-day jail term in Arizona for DUI

Leonard Myers dies from cancer complications at 38

Former RB Trent Richardson jailed on domestic violence charge in Ala.

Chargers lineman King Dunlap arrested for violating protective order

Dolphins cut Mario Williams, will try to trade Branden Albert

 

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Cameron Wake's new two-year deal worth $19 million, per source
Darrelle Revis arraigned in Pittsburgh, will be back in court Thursday
WR Michael Floyd starts 24-day jail term in Arizona for DUI
NFL coaching veteran Brian Daboll to lead Alabama offense, sources say
Darren Woodson off ESPN says "Tony Romo 'focused' on Houston Texans, "

Interesting...

 

[rob112]

Peterson to Giants

That's the news I want to hear lol

 

[jimbuick]

Peterson to Giants

That's the news I want to hear lol

Even with his injury history I would love to have him in Philly.

Interesting story: I've met him before. He's from the area where I grew up and had a half-brother who was a few years younger than me in HS. During one of his byes he came down to watch a game so all the varsity guys got him to sign something for us. I probably talked to him and his uncle for close to an hour. Cool guy. Unless he's your Dad, I guess.

 

[rob112]

Even with his injury history I would love to have him in Philly.

Interesting story: I've met him before. He's from the area where I grew up and had a half-brother who was a few years younger than me in HS. During one of his byes he came down to watch a game so all the varsity guys got him to sign something for us. I probably talked to him and his uncle for close to an hour. Cool guy. Unless he's your Dad, I guess.

Damn that's pretty boss man! And yea I would still take him. It would have to be a fair contract. And lol at last part

 

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Bears looking to Trade Jay Cutler... Talks are heating up
DeSean Jackson wants to play for winning team with great QB
Panthers release Mike Tolbert, Paul Soliai Freeing up almost $2,000,000 in cap space

New England Patriots quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo told ESPN's Adam Schefter that he's trying not to think about speculation that he might be traded this offseason.

New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady's missing Super Bowl LI game jersey is valued at $500,000 according to a Houston police report released Tuesday.

Lions hire former Texans OC George Godsey as defensive assistant

 

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Lots of trade talk about Tony Romo possibly going to Denver or Houston

Garoppollo from NE is very high on the trade table too with consideration to Cleveland , Houston and Denver

Blount wants to stay in NE

Bills Tyrod Taylor has 27.5 million due in march says he has recovered fine from groin surgery

Bears want to move cutler and seeking a trade

Phil Rivers makes it clear he wants to stay in SD as QB

 

[jimbuick]

I was watching something recently about Garoppollo and the Pats where they talked about how the Pats shouldn't trade him.

I tend to agree. Brady is still playing well, but he is getting older and will have to retire sooner rather than later. It's hard to find a QB who can play well in this league, and the Pats have a confusing offensive system. Taking a guy you know can play in your system and trading him with the hopes that you can get someone else in the next season or two doesn't seem like the best idea.

 

[The Solution]

I was watching something recently about Garoppollo and the Pats where they talked about how the Pats shouldn't trade him.

I tend to agree. Brady is still playing well, but he is getting older and will have to retire sooner rather than later. It's hard to find a QB who can play well in this league, and the Pats have a confusing offensive system. Taking a guy you know can play in your system and trading him with the hopes that you can get someone else in the next season or two doesn't seem like the best idea.

Even if they don't get someone else via trade. Some extra draft picks to pick up someone to develop is a well worthy idea. There are some great QB's in this draft to be had.

 

[jimbuick]

Even if they don't get someone else via trade. Some extra draft picks to pick up someone to develop is a well worthy idea. There are some great QB's in this draft to be had.

The patriots don't like to pay for great players, so high draft picks don't make a lot of sense for them. Especially not high draft picks for QBs who would be riding the bench. They typically rely on people wanting to play for them bad enough to be paid under market value.

 

[rugger48]

2017 NFL Draft & Season Chat Thread

There is a back story for the other Qb they drafted last year that might be having some influence why they are willing to trade garopolla.

 

[jimbuick]

There is a back story for the other Qb they drafted last year that might be having some influence why they are willing to trade garopolla.

Maybe. Brissett didn't look awful when he was filling in. Didn't look great either.