I'm currently using anesthetized by BSL. Could someone recommend another effective sleep aid? I would like to alternate between several, if I could. Thank you.
How often do you use them? Just from your brief post, it seems like you may rely on them.I'm currently using anesthetized by BSL. Could someone recommend another effective sleep aid? I would like to alternate between several, if I could. Thank you.
Is there a standard dose or is it something I would play around with?L-Dopa extract. Cheap and very underrated. Great for sleep and overall sense of well-being. Could possibly boost GH as well.
Actually, I just started taking any sort of sleep aid this week. I have not been sleeping for the last four months or so due to life stressors.How often do you use them? Just from your brief post, it seems like you may rely on them.
You want a good extract. I take 99.6% L-dopa at 500mg per serving. I take 4 servings daily.Is there a standard dose or is it something I would play around with?
start off small- 100 then gradually increase- people go up to 800-1000 a day. but others like MMAguy go to 2000, which imo is a lot. But that is me. He may need that and you could be good with 400. low dose, gauge and then increaseActually, I just started taking any sort of sleep aid this week. I have not been sleeping for the last four months or so due to life stressors.
You're referring to L-dopa?start off small- 100 then gradually increase- people go up to 800-1000 a day. but others like MMAguy go to 2000, which imo is a lot. But that is me. He may need that and you could be good with 400. low dose, gauge and then increase
Neither. Just started with anesthetized. I was thinking of picking up melatonin but I wanted to ask this question first.Did you first try Melatonin or tryptophan?
yes and you can build up a tolerance which will require more of it. im not saying its bad or good, that is for you to decide. i however dont use it. friends i know do.You're referring to L-dopa?
It is a precursor to dopamine so don't go taking crazy amounts right off the gate. I've worked my way up over years. As smith_69 said its best to start on the lower end of the spectrum and gradually work up if needed.yes and you can build up a tolerance which will require more of it. im not saying its bad or good, that is for you to decide. i however dont use it. friends i know do.
GABA is addictive, I watched a buddy withdrawal off 800 gaba a day.Yes, gaba is good to. You can probably get a script for Gabapentin from your dr. Say you have anxiety but don't want to go the benzo route.
Actually it's not known to cause withdrawals. (Of course it's possible depends on a person's genes). I had a script and started out 300mg/day and eventually got up to a 1800mg dosage . 600mg x 3 times a day. No withdrawals. That's why they give it to folks sourcing for scheduled substances. It's great for alcohol withdrawals and hard drug use but IMO it's the best way to go if you don't want to use an addictive pharmaceutical such as benzos.GABA is addictive, I watched a buddy withdrawal off 800 gaba a day.
I don't recommend it
Yea he was 800 x3 I believe.Actually it's not known to cause withdrawals. I had a script and started out 300mg/day and eventually got up to a 1800mg dosage . 600mg x 3 times a day. No withdrawals. That's why they give it to folks sourcing for scheduled substances. It's great for alcohol withdrawals and hard drug use but IMO it's the best way to go if you don't want to use an addictive pharmaceutical such as benzos.
I'm talking pharmaceutical prescription grade. Not herbal gaba. Thought I should make that clear for people reading this with no idea lolYea he was 800 x3 I believe.
He for sure withdrew, I don't know a whole lot about it, just that he did in fact withdrawal.
I myself need a sleep aid, just worried it will keep me from waking up in the morning
Yea his was pharma as well, by his doc.I'm talking pharmaceutical prescription grade. Not herbal gaba. Thought I should make that clear for people reading this with no idea lol
warm milkYea his was pharma as well, by his doc.
What's a good sleep aid that will help insomnia but not bother your waking up?
That looks pretty good I have a quick question though. Will it knock me out to the point I won't hear my alarm? When I work day shifts I average very little sleep and when I wake up I'm just dead and it takes a bit to get up. I'm afraid a sleep aid might just knock me out and not let me get up for work I wake up at 330amIML's Dream n Grow is good option. I've been using that or awhile and I like it.
Me too.That looks pretty good I have a quick question though. Will it knock me out to the point I won't hear my alarm? When I work day shifts I average very little sleep and when I wake up I'm just dead and it takes a bit to get up. I'm afraid a sleep aid might just knock me out and not let me get up for work I wake up at 330am
Did you say "life stressor?" I very seriously empathize!Actually, I just started taking any sort of sleep aid this week. I have not been sleeping for the last four months or so due to life stressors.
In that case, go to your doctor and get a prescription sleeping pill like Zoplicone. I feel for you, as I have been there. Once you get over this hurdle you're dealing with, slowly get off of it. Good luck.Actually, I just started taking any sort of sleep aid this week. I have not been sleeping for the last four months or so due to life stressors.
Thank you. I am familiar with the ZMA and Ashwhaganda. I used it probably 20 years ago when I had another extremely high stress job and would not sleep. I dosed it during the day to mellow out and then at night it would give me crazy vivid dreams. The only downside was I built up a tolerance and had to keep upping the dose. I may end up going back to it. I'll have to look up the other one but thank you.ZMA and Ashwagandha for general use. Registrant G when you really need it.
I think you mean Revivarant G by APS Nutrition?ZMA and Ashwagandha for general use. Registrant G when you really need it.
So many good recommendations.I have used a few sleep aids in my day but nothing has come close to REM 8.0 for me. I dont take it everyday so dependency on phenibut isnt an issue for me. I dont need a full scoop either to get a good nights sleep. Usually I dose at around 1/4 to 1/2 scoop. Ive been using the same 50 serving tub for at least 4 months now.
I was going to say, I couldn't find any results on Google. I thought maybe there was a typo in there somewhere.I think you mean Revivarant G by APS Nutrition?
I get about 6 hours a sleep a night on average and I can still wake up when I take this. I usually don't take it every night though. I'lll just take it when I need it.That looks pretty good I have a quick question though. Will it knock me out to the point I won't hear my alarm? When I work day shifts I average very little sleep and when I wake up I'm just dead and it takes a bit to get up. I'm afraid a sleep aid might just knock me out and not let me get up for work I wake up at 330am
Yea he was 800 x3 I believe.
He for sure withdrew, I don't know a whole lot about it, just that he did in fact withdrawal.
I myself need a sleep aid, just worried it will keep me from waking up in the morning
For the above posts, are you two sure you're not talking about Gabapentin? Not sure they even make prescription GABA and if they do, it wouldn't make sense since it's over the counter. That would be like prescription sugar. You can buy it and take as much as you want. Gaba is not addictive and the supposed knock on it is that it doesn't even cross the BBB - so it supposedly doesn't get in your brain at all. But as kisaj said so well - take 2 grams of this and tell me you don't relax.I'm talking pharmaceutical prescription grade. Not herbal gaba. Thought I should make that clear for people reading this with no idea lol
ZMA and Ashwaghanda definitely help me sleep through the night without waking up - and don't interfere with my sleep pattern at all. GABA is great for deeper sleep and may make me sleep a little longer - maybe 8 full hours without problem, but doesn't keep me from waking up either. Revivarant G, which has phenibut and GABOB can keep me asleep for 10 hours, but I can wake up no problem in as few as six - if I take a full dose 6-8 hours of sleep leaves me a little dizzy for an hour after I wake up. It is harder to get up with Rev. G. It is strong.Yea his was pharma as well, by his doc.
What's a good sleep aid that will help insomnia but not bother your waking up?
Revivarant G is the same for me - I take 1/3 - 1/2 scoop unless I just want to sleep a long time (like on a Friday night into Saturday morning after a hard week)I have used a few sleep aids in my day but nothing has come close to REM 8.0 for me. I dont take it everyday so dependency on phenibut isnt an issue for me. I dont need a full scoop either to get a good nights sleep. Usually I dose at around 1/4 to 1/2 scoop. Ive been using the same 50 serving tub for at least 4 months now.
You won't build up a tolerance to ZMA and upping the dose will make it less effective. It isn't a magical sleep aid - it is effective but weak.Thank you. I am familiar with the ZMA and Ashwhaganda. I used it probably 20 years ago when I had another extremely high stress job and would not sleep. I dosed it during the day to mellow out and then at night it would give me crazy vivid dreams. The only downside was I built up a tolerance and had to keep upping the dose. I may end up going back to it. I'll have to look up the other one but thank you.
Yes, sorry - autocorrect. I also didn't mean L-Dopamine, I meant L-Dopa as others had suggested.I think you mean Revivarant G by APS Nutrition?
For the above posts, are you two sure you're not talking about Gabapentin? Not sure they even make prescription GABA and if they do, it wouldn't make sense since it's over the counter. That would be like prescription sugar. You can buy it and take as much as you want. Gaba is not addictive and the supposed knock on it is that it doesn't even cross the BBB - so it supposedly doesn't get in your brain at all. But as kisaj said so well - take 2 grams of this and tell me you don't relax.
ZMA and Ashwaghanda definitely help me sleep through the night without waking up - and don't interfere with my sleep pattern at all. GABA is great for deeper sleep and may make me sleep a little longer - maybe 8 full hours without problem, but doesn't keep me from waking up either. Revivarant G, which has phenibut and GABOB can keep me asleep for 10 hours, but I can wake up no problem in as few as six - if I take a full dose 6-8 hours of sleep leaves me a little dizzy for an hour after I wake up. It is harder to get up with Rev. G. It is strong.
Revivarant G is the same for me - I take 1/3 - 1/2 scoop unless I just want to sleep a long time (like on a Friday night into Saturday morning after a hard week)
You won't build up a tolerance to ZMA and upping the dose will make it less effective. It isn't a magical sleep aid - it is effective but weak.
Before going prescription I would do ZMA, Ashwagandha and GABA. Start at 500 mg GABA and work up to 5 grams - you will find a dose that gives you awesome sleep. For me I got to 2 grams and slept great, increased all the way up to 10 grams and found that 2 grams was the best so I stick to that.
Yes, sorry - autocorrect. I also didn't mean L-Dopamine, I meant L-Dopa as others had suggested.
This is spot on. Getting your stress under control by lifestyle change trumps all. It sounds dumb but keeping a log of things you are grateful for and feel blessed to have will do a lot to de stress you and relieve anxiety. Also do agree with the KSM-66, it truly does live up to the hypeI'm going to go a different route with this one. I would try and get the stress under control first. If stress is disrupting sleep or any facet of your daily routine, I would try to get a healthy handle on it. Try to find something to help you de-stress, maybe something like a journal you write in daily, drinking a cup of tea, going for a walk or even a coloring book.
Once you get a handle on that, I would look into KSM-66. This will also help with your stress and anxiety, but there is no guarantee if your stress is very high, this will alleviate it enough.
Sleep aids/HGH boosters do have their place, but I would get a hold of what is stressing me out first.
Yes, anesthetized seems to be working well.. The label says not to take it every night so that's why I was hoping to find alternatives.Also, no one ever asked - but I'm assuming the Anesthetized is working for you?
You should know that REM 8.0, Revivarant G and Anesthetized all have Phenibut in them - so they are addictive. Don't use them every night.
I appreciate the suggestions and agree completely. If this were a permanent situation, I would do as you say but it should be less than another month at the most and that's why am looking for a temporary fix.I'm going to go a different route with this one. I would try and get the stress under control first. If stress is disrupting sleep or any facet of your daily routine, I would try to get a healthy handle on it. Try to find something to help you de-stress, maybe something like a journal you write in daily, drinking a cup of tea, going for a walk or even a coloring book.
Once you get a handle on that, I would look into KSM-66. This will also help with your stress and anxiety, but there is no guarantee if your stress is very high, this will alleviate it enough.
Sleep aids/HGH boosters do have their place, but I would get a hold of what is stressing me out first.
GabapentinYes I'm talking about gabapentin.
Isn't that the same thing lol!?
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They are different molecules. Gabapentin is for neurotic pain and seizures, etc and does seem to cross the BBB.
Gaba is the neurotransmitter itself and doesn't supposedly get past the BBB.
Common mistake - and I made a simar mistake I'm this thread before I edited my post when I said l-dopamine and meant l-dopa
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