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Hey guys - Wondering what the effects would be if I tried using OL Dermatr3st just as a performance enhancer just for single day application. Benefits and sides. I have Formestane to take with it.
Hmm. I've read it's a lot more anabolic than test tho. And that people take the oral as a preworkout and get good results. But thank you for the thoughts. I'll definitely keep your opinion in mind.Doesn't work that well and it's not that strong even their oral version is weak. Just take a strong preworkout, you're better off. I've tried both oral, td and combination of both for 8 weeks. Went up to 125 and it's just good to battle lethargy while on other suppressive compounds
Yeah, I only have derma though. I'm hoping if I dose it at 100 mg or so once a month only, I'll get a sort of all day boost that day only. Like on a day when I feel I really need it, or maybe on a day when I'm feeling great and want to maximize an already bound to be great workout.Yes, ive done similar and works great! Never tried dermatrest, but ce**ic oral trest or ment works awesome. 20-30 min later and you've got a big pre workout boost. Its not just something to battle lethargy, its actually stronger than test. Im guessing the previous poster also used the dermatrest.
I ran 6 weeks of dermatrest at 100mg and it was the easiest cycle to recover from I've done yetHmm. I've read it's a lot more anabolic than test tho. And that people take the oral as a preworkout and get good results. But thank you for the thoughts. I'll definitely keep your opinion in mind.
I was going to do a full cycle of it but I read that it's very suppressing on not just test but LH as well and has a higher chance of strong HPTA shutdown.
Were you pleased with the results?I ran 6 weeks of dermatrest at 100mg and it was the easiest cycle to recover from I've done yet
Don't look to gain a bunch of weight or strength, it's mild imo. It will make you feel better than you ever have in your life thoughWere you pleased with the results?
Agreed. I will never use dermatrest for anything other than a base for other compounds, I think it really shines as a baseEpi Andro would probably work better the Trest as a pre workout strength booster.
Oh wow, a lot of people feel the Dermatrest doesnt work for them. Jeez, I hope I didn't waste my money.Trest is powerful, but isn't too hard to recover from. For those reporting anything but excellent results from this powerful substance, i would suggest trying another brand. I hear this alot with the derma for some reason. A well sourced trest on the other hand, will provide a much more powerful response. Trest is many times more powerful than test. Imo op, trest and/or ment is a much better, more powerful and way more anabolic way to go than epi.
Trest can bind more heavily to the AR, if it's injected, the issue is in administration methods.Hmm. I've read it's a lot more anabolic than test tho. And that people take the oral as a preworkout and get good results. But thank you for the thoughts. I'll definitely keep your opinion in mind. I was going to do a full cycle of it but I read that it's very suppressing on not just test but LH as well and has a higher chance of strong HPTA shutdown.
Don't use hormonal compounds as a one day "get high boost" that is just dumb. Either run a cycle or don't there are plenty of supplements that can help with mood and energy that you can use at your own free will.
These are the kinds of replies I was looking for. Thanks guys.I feel like it will throw your hormones out of wack and do more harm than good. Run a legit every day cycle or save it for when your ready, imo. Get a solid pre workout and you will fill that void in your life.
Don't knock it till you've tried it.;-). Doing it randomly every once in awhile gives a tremendous workout boost, increases protein synthesis, glycogen retention, workout volume and recovery, amongst other positives that last longer than the one day you took it. Im sure your natural T takes a small hit, but in doing this ive never noticed it or felt like ive had to recover. Ive only noticed huge positives in doing this. It would be interesting to hear from others that have done this, as opposed to people just parroting what they've heard or think.I feel like it will throw your hormones out of wack and do more harm than good. Run a legit every day cycle or save it for when your ready, imo. Get a solid pre workout and you will fill that void in your life.
how about the risk of your head exploding from high blood pressure. 80-100mg of Oral Trest...geez..i 2 times popped about 80-100mg oral trest 1h pwo and felt a decent boost
but the risk of harming my hpta prevented me from further boosts
I have tried trest but I didn't run it in the fashion stated by the op. I don't know how me stating my opinion was "parroting" but at least the op found it useful.Don't knock it till you've tried it.;-). Doing it randomly every once in awhile gives a tremendous workout boost, increases protein synthesis, glycogen retention, workout volume and recovery, amongst other positives that last longer than the one day you took it. Im sure your natural T takes a small hit, but in doing this ive never noticed it or felt like ive had to recover. Ive only noticed huge positives in doing this. It would be interesting to hear from others that have done this, as opposed to people just parroting what they've heard or think.
The compound has an oral half life of like two hours.... I doubt that you would see a huge difference in what trest can do for you pre workout vs a good preworkout drink and a diet in which you are in a caloric surplus.Don't knock it till you've tried it.;-). Doing it randomly every once in awhile gives a tremendous workout boost, increases protein synthesis, glycogen retention, workout volume and recovery, amongst other positives that last longer than the one day you took it. Im sure your natural T takes a small hit, but in doing this ive never noticed it or felt like ive had to recover. Ive only noticed huge positives in doing this. It would be interesting to hear from others that have done this, as opposed to people just parroting what they've heard or think.
did not experience any sides at all but maybe it was bunk trest lol (Brawn nutrition)how about the risk of your head exploding from high blood pressure. 80-100mg of Oral Trest...geez..
Yes, so that's sort of what I was thinking of doing, but I decided the possibility of screwing up HPTA is probably not worth it. Although I wonder if i could negate those problems by doing this right before/during a T booster cycle. Hmm.Don't knock it till you've tried it.;-). Doing it randomly every once in awhile gives a tremendous workout boost, increases protein synthesis, glycogen retention, workout volume and recovery, amongst other positives that last longer than the one day you took it. Im sure your natural T takes a small hit, but in doing this ive never noticed it or felt like ive had to recover. Ive only noticed huge positives in doing this. It would be interesting to hear from others that have done this, as opposed to people just parroting what they've heard or think.
What about Formestane?I could see oral trest being used at a high dose once a month for an important event. 1RM testing day, etc.
If you do this, I would however advise yo run some form of recovery. Probably a low dose of exemstane for a week would more than make up for the natty decline.
Its a good AI for when you are on cycle and since Trest aromatizes it stacks wellWhat about Formestane?
Formestane works great.What about Formestane?
I also found that the dry effects of stano/epi andro countered the estrogen sides from Trest. As i increased my stano dosageIts a good AI for when you are on cycle and since Trest aromatizes it stacks well
Hmm so maybe I could try TD trest 1 day with a full dose of Formestane. Or just save it for a full cycle. I'm just hesitant to do a full cycle because of how hard it shuts you down otherwise there would be no debate.
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You know what he is thinking right....