Getting big and Lean with Anabeta/X-gels/Alphamax and more

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Why are you dosing prolactrone, any reason?
I can get it inexpensive included In a deal, and all it is, is L-Dopa/green tea. Wouldn't mind the added cognitive benefits/sleep benefits. And a precursor to dopamine is a great thing. Who wouldn't want to feel great? :)

Why?
 
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I can get it inexpensive included In a deal, and all it is, is L-Dopa/green tea. Wouldn't mind the added cognitive benefits/sleep benefits. And a precursor to dopamine is a great thing. Who wouldn't want to feel great? :) Why?
How you Guna dose it? 1 before bed?

I got some myself that's all
 
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How you Guna dose it? 1 before bed?

I got some myself that's all
Oh gotcha! Probably 1 am and 1 before bed. Ill have to talk with Brundel to see what would be optimal but definitely one before bed!
 
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Oh gotcha! Probably 1 am and 1 before bed. Ill have to talk with Brundel to see what would be optimal but definitely one before bed!
Let me know what the consensus is mate
 
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Afternoon everyone! yesterdays feast turned out to leave me feeling pretty dry this morning (wut?!?!) Yeah believe it or not all the fried food/fat i ate yesterday may have reset my system a bit because i woke up this morning feeling drier than i have in a while.

I did the typical dosing:
2 alphamax upon waking and 2 right before bed
1 anabeta with each meal that i ate,

but the crazy thing was waking up i felt lean! Gonna go on this caloric deficit the rest of the week and hopefully itll be able to help me lean out for this weekends water park fun! Ill be posting a before/after pic with my review and although there isnt too much that you can tell based on the pic, Ill be explaining the noticeable changes for me, as well as what the products have done for me in the weight room. SO sad to see alphamax and anabeta go though.... ALphamax allowed me to pig out on my bulk without getting fat :(
 
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Good morning everyone time for another workout post on the last week of the full stack! and what a great workout it was given the circumstances! First off i would like to thank Performax labs for miscounting the amount of alphamax in the bottle AGAIN so i actually should have enough to last me the end of the week ;D lets hop into macros first!


SO my myfitness app has been a piece of poop lately so ive had to write everything by hand so my totals for yesterday were roughly
88g fat
375g carbs (37g fiber)
306g protein

i had higher protein than carbs til about midnight last night when i had a ton of tortilla chips and cherry salsa :D

supplement dosing yesterday was
2 Alphamax at 9am and then 2 more at 1100 before ed
2 anabeta at 4:00 with carb meal and 2 more taken with some massive omelette
2g ALCAR 20min pre workout
4 X-Gels 20min pre workout
2 scoops GLycergrow 20min pre workout
1 scoop C4

Intra 20oz gatorade (with powder mix)
1 scoop glycergrow

The workout!

Back Squat
135x3
185x2
225x1
275x1
315x1
335x4 (belt came undone twice) spotter had to hold it on...
335x1 (belt came off re racked it taped it on) then did x3 more reps
335x4
335x4
335x4 ugly as fuk
335x4 ugly as fuk

My CNS was destroyed. i was super hot, running on 6.5 hours of good sleep and pretty carb depleted but got through it Cutting is rough

Bench Press
135x5
185x3
225x1
245x5
245x5
245x5
245x5
245x5
245x5

Well some more accidental PR's. im supposed to be following the same rep/set pattern for squats but i skipped a week. 2 weeks from now ill be attempting 245x7 for 6 sets :) happy with the PR though

Dips
BWx8
BWx8
BWx8

RDL's
135x8
185x8
205x8 PR since my hammy injury

Dumbbell Bench Press
60x5
65x5
70x5
75x5

Just gonna progressively move up the rack :D

1 Leg Hamstring curls I do these in place of glute ham raises because the set up is horrible
50x8
50x8
50x8

Stretching and I was out!

Very happy with today overall, the strength increases have been great overall and so im really really looking forward to finishing out this week with a bang and some more prs!
 
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How did your belt come undone? Were one of those ladies from the wedding there trying to undress you?!
 
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Great session!!!

Hmmmm... Is cherry salsa as yummy as mango salsa?
 
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How did your belt come undone? Were one of those ladies from the wedding there trying to undress you?!
well ;) actually i dont know! I thought i had it strapped up tight (I have a velcro harbringer one) and on my decent it was fine but on my way up it just popped off, i almost lost the first rep on that 345 haha. im gonna clean the velcro a bit and see if it helps. i fell like it just wasnt sticking properly. i eventually would like to get a nice fastened one.
 
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Great session!!!

Hmmmm... Is cherry salsa as yummy as mango salsa?
thanks! Thanks for dropping by! And by far 100X BETTER in my book. i think its because im a freak when it comes to cherry anything, I love it! plus its made (homemade) about 45 minutes away in the cherry capital of wisconsin so that makes it even better!
 
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thanks! Thanks for dropping by! And by far 100X BETTER in my book. i think its because im a freak when it comes to cherry anything, I love it! plus its made (homemade) about 45 minutes away in the cherry capital of wisconsin so that makes it even better!
:) I'll have to try it! Hmmm... I didn't know they grew cherries up there! I figured it'd be too cold. :D
 
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current temp is 84 with 85% humidity. not even close :D
Haha, it's a beautiful 72 where I'm at. I love overcast weather!! :)
 
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Wisconsin Eh? Im in Iowa and will be in Madison in a few weeks, and definitely stockpiling on some spotted cow. So good!
 
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Wisconsin Eh? Im in Iowa and will be in Madison in a few weeks, and definitely stockpiling on some spotted cow. So good!

Like, you're gonna stock up on some steaks? Lol
 
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Lol, we already have really good steak in Iowa. Spotted cow is a beer only sold in Wisconsin and it's awesome
 
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Lol, we already have really good steak in Iowa. Spotted cow is a beer only sold in Wisconsin and it's awesome

Haha, I was thinking.... Why would you want fat, milking cow steaks?
 
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You need to get a real belt my man!
youre telling me! its on my christmas list aka a list of things i want but cant afford right now. yay for being a college student...
 
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Get outta here^ ;)
Well good morning all another solid session in the books yesterday on another low carb lifting session. legs were absolutely annihilated before and unfortunately my front squats seems to have went down! While i keep my back straight my legs are bowing a little bit too much for my liking so i will have to work on that... BUT did them pain free and they felt pretty good so definitely happy.

macros for yesterday were
72g fat (i dont include glycergrow into my fat count)
260g carbs
295g protein.
finished my cherry salsa at 1 am so that went on todays macros... ;)

supplement dosing yesterday was
2 Alphamax at 9am and then 2 more at 1100 before ed
2 anabeta at 4:00 with carb meal and 2 more taken with some massive omelette
2g ALCAR 20min pre workout
4 X-Gels 20min pre workout
2 scoops GLycergrow 20min pre workout
1 scoop C4

Intra 20oz gatorade (with powder mix)
1 scoop glycergrow
1 scoop RecoverPro Aminos

The workout

Snatch
complex with 45lbs
complex with 95lbs
complex with 135
155x1
170x3
170x3 (catch clean on the last one but lost it forward)
170x3
170x3

Front Squat
135x2
185x2
225x1
275x3
275x3
275x3
275x3

I had every intentino on doing the same set and rep scheme as i would for normal squat and bench but because ive had a lot of time off im going to do the same set and rep scheme for clean and snatch. considering front squat wasnt in the main lift and its technically an "accessory" im fine with that.

Banded pull ups with largest green band
BWx10
BWx8
BWx8

did these with ultra strict form SKipped the lat pulldown today because of lat soreness from swimming this past weekend :D

Seated cable row
140x8
160x8
70x8 1 arm at a time.

lat stretching in between the back exercises

Pistol squat onto a bench
3 sets of 5 reps

these felt much better. glad I did them this way

3 way planks. 30 seconds each side (left/right/front)
3 sets of 15 rep side bends with a 35lb dumbbell---trying to get that left lower back/oblique area back to being conditioned again.
oblique cable holds. 15 seconds each side 37.5lbs on the first set then 45lbs the last 2 sets.

some extremely painful rolling out and home i went!

so NOW i realize that low carb destroys my body and essentially leaves me no chance to recover.gonna go ahead and give myself a higher carb day but hopefully i keep the sugars fairly low. gonna be a milk and cereal pre workout kinda day, but noodles rice and beef tonight thats for sure!

tomorrow is my last day on anabeta. today is exactly 8 weeks but i got 3 extra caps. and today is also supposed to be my last day on Alphamax but, i have about 12 caps left there and roughly 4-5 left in the other bottle from my first 4 weeks so Performax guys: [FONT=]Arial Black I should be ok running it an additional 5ish days right?[/FONT] thanks :D
 
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youre telling me! its on my christmas list aka a list of things i want but cant afford right now. yay for being a college student...
I hear ya on that man. Thank god, just one more year. I will only have to take out a $2,700 subsidized loan for next semester. I can't complain only being that much in debt. Hopefully you have a good situation going on.

An extra few days won't kill you. Just use the pills up
 
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I hear ya on that man. Thank god, just one more year. I will only have to take out a $2,700 subsidized loan for next semester. I can't complain only being that much in debt. Hopefully you have a good situation going on.

An extra few days won't kill you. Just use the pills up
Things arent TOO bad, the summer job i work gets me about 4k a year for school all the other money goes towards food and stuff (i live at home but my step dad has made me buy all my own stuff since i was a soph in high school) but my mom has been helping me secretly a TON. going into my 4th year of college and i only have about $13,000 to pay back. now that may seem like a lot but this day in age the average is up around $30,000 after 4 years. problem is for various reasons my parents wont give me tax info to do my fafsa this year.. so im only eligible for one unsub loan. i may be looking at wells fargo student loans unfortunately to get me through the next couple years..
 
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Things arent TOO bad, the summer job i work gets me about 4k a year for school all the other money goes towards food and stuff (i live at home but my step dad has made me buy all my own stuff since i was a soph in high school) but my mom has been helping me secretly a TON. going into my 4th year of college and i only have about $13,000 to pay back. now that may seem like a lot but this day in age the average is up around $30,000 after 4 years. problem is for various reasons my parents wont give me tax info to do my fafsa this year.. so im only eligible for one unsub loan. i may be looking at wells fargo student loans unfortunately to get me through the next couple years..
I rather have 13k than my 56k. :/
 
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I rather have 13k than my 56k. :/
i guess i got super lucky my first year, i took out all the loans i applied for and recieved, whcih gave me about $15,000 in my pocket. i received an athletic scholarship for about 1/3 of my total tuition, then received 2 small grants for about $2,000 total, and a scholarship from my high school donated by the booster club for $1,000 so i went into my freshman year of college with roughly 20k. i was smart about my money and fortunately made it through my first 2 years ok. now this past year I didnt get federal aid because of my parents taxes (or whatever they did/didnt do) and this year is looking the same. so im really struggling to get by without any form of fafsa
 
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i guess i got super lucky my first year, i took out all the loans i applied for and recieved, whcih gave me about $15,000 in my pocket. i received an athletic scholarship for about 1/3 of my total tuition, then received 2 small grants for about $2,000 total, and a scholarship from my high school donated by the booster club for $1,000 so i went into my freshman year of college with roughly 20k. i was smart about my money and fortunately made it through my first 2 years ok. now this past year I didnt get federal aid because of my parents taxes (or whatever they did/didnt do) and this year is looking the same. so im really struggling to get by without any form of fafsa
You'll get through it. Determination is a powerful thing and it'll all be worth it in the end. :)
 
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You'll get through it. Determination is a powerful thing and it'll all be worth it in the end. :)

Hope so :) im a phy ed major but dont want to be a phy ed teacher necessarily.. not a fan of the 30k/year jobs..
 
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Hope so :) im a phy ed major but dont want to be a phy ed teacher necessarily.. not a fan of the 30k/year jobs..
I make more than that without a degree!
 
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I think that 30k loan average is low, but a decent amount. One can make good money in retail, but working in retail is **** in my opinion. It has made me hate people and lose faith in humanity.
 
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I think that 30k loan average is low, but a decent amount. One can make good money in retail, but working in retail is **** in my opinion. It has made me hate people and lose faith in humanity.
6 years... 6 years ive worked here, and i know exactly what you mean. in all honesty, i ask myself sometimes how people like this can even exist/reproduce. it may be bad of me to think this way but holy **** if i ever acted this way...

on a side note i work at a marina (largest in the entire midwest) which sells tons of boats etc. but i sell accessories for boats atvs etc. and even our salesmen are just absolute chit.

but my alternate job is working at the towns iron foundry and man oh man i dont want lung cancer....
 
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6 years... 6 years ive worked here, and i know exactly what you mean. in all honesty, i ask myself sometimes how people like this can even exist/reproduce. it may be bad of me to think this way but holy **** if i ever acted this way...

on a side note i work at a marina (largest in the entire midwest) which sells tons of boats etc. but i sell accessories for boats atvs etc. and even our salesmen are just absolute chit.

but my alternate job is working at the towns iron foundry and man oh man i dont want lung cancer....
What's the sales people pulling in on the boat sales? If you had to guess?

I went to school for networking, never got degree. Worked as tech at an ISP, before making the jump into sales full time. I miss the tech stuff, but like sales salary more.
 
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What's the sales people pulling in on the boat sales? If you had to guess?

I went to school for networking, never got degree. Worked as tech at an ISP, before making the jump into sales full time. I miss the tech stuff, but like sales salary more.
What do you mean by this, meaning how much are they selling boats for roughly or a general idea of what we bring in monthly?
 
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What do you mean by this, meaning how much are they selling boats for roughly or a general idea of what we bring in monthly?
Lol yeah roughly yearly income. Us salespeople always like to hear what others are making haha. It's in our blood.
 
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Lol yeah roughly yearly income. Us salespeople always like to hear what others are making haha. It's in our blood.
ahh man theyre straight commission so thats tough... what i do know is that a $1000 sale brings them in about $70 pocket, so if they sell a big $60,000 crownline boat theyre essentially making $4200 for a single sale..
 
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I did sales for quite a while, and while I enjoyed the nice paychecks when I had a good run, I'm really digging the stability and challenges of my marketing position. Went from selling marketing and web services at a 20 employee company that brought in 1-2 million a year, to doing the marketing for a nationwide company bringing in over 100 million a year. Definitely digging it! Also didn't get a degree so no student loans, the wife and her 80,000 are enough, lol.
 
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I did sales for quite a while, and while I enjoyed the nice paychecks when I had a good run, I'm really digging the stability and challenges of my marketing position. Went from selling marketing and web services at a 20 employee company that brought in 1-2 million a year, to doing the marketing for a nationwide company bringing in over 100 million a year. Definitely digging it! Also didn't get a degree so no student loans, the wife and her 80,000 are enough, lol.
see thats the thing i feel like half the time i go to school because thats what my family would want and what the united states "norms" are. the other half i think "well i need to get a degree so i can hopefully do something in a fitness/supplement field".
 
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Yeah straight commission is tough. I need the base pay to make sure I can provide for family. Marketing is fun too. Since we started as a small startup, I have always gotten to dabble in our marketing some. Now we are corporately owned, so not so much. Biggest perk I have probably is I have been here 8 years and already have 4.3 weeks of PTO per year
 
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holy time off... thats nice, i mean im lucky because both my parents are here so if i want a day off I can just take one off if i let them know in advance, but at the same time, our accessory show room and then the parts showroom only have 2 people working in it at a time so they rarely get a day off because nobody is backing up the department
 
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see thats the thing i feel like half the time i go to school because thats what my family would want and what the united states "norms" are. the other half i think "well i need to get a degree so i can hopefully do something in a fitness/supplement field".
For my wife, she had to go get her masters or in her field of work she never would have been able to advance. There are many, many fields where you'll hit a low ceiling without an education. I got pretty lucky
 
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For my wife, she had to go get her masters or in her field of work she never would have been able to advance. There are many, many fields where you'll hit a low ceiling without an education. I got pretty lucky
I got tired of working harder and not smarter. I figured, take 4 years out of my life and go to school or spend another 20 years at a job I hate. :)
 
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I got tired of working harder and not smarter. I figured, take 4 years out of my life and go to school or spend another 20 years at a job I hate. :)
its gonna take me 5.5 +student teaching.... ughhhhh poop
 
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its gonna take me 5.5 +student teaching.... ughhhhh poop
You're young lol, I started school at an old age. I was too busy chasing that stupid dollar. :/
 
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Morning everyone! Another solid workout in the books and today is my last day of Anabeta as they gave me 3 extra capsules! Thanks PES :D

I have 2 more days on Alphamax i believe and then next week I will write my review. Anabeta review I will throw up tonight or tomorrow as well!

Macros for yesterday were
95g fat
320g carbs
307g protein

Fat is a little high because two things that i ate for supper came up a little incorrect on my MFP app (which is why im not using it....) so realistically it was around 85g

I used yesteday as a bit of a "refeed" day upping the calories just because my body felt destroyed, i was tired, lethargic, and even during the workout i just felt not into it! Today will be a little higher again and then lower on friday saturday will be a middle day and then off to Wisconsin dells for the water park fun :D

DOSING FOR YESTERDAY

2 Alphamax at 9am and then 2 more at 1100 before bed
2 anabeta at 4:00 with carb meal and 2 more taken with an omelette
2g ALCAR 20min pre workout
4 X-Gels 20min pre workout
2 scoops GLycergrow 20min pre workout
1 scoop C4

Intra 20oz gatorade (with powder mix)
1 scoop glycergrow
1 scoop RecoverPro Aminos


WERKERT

CLeans
Complex with 135
185x2
205x1
225x3
225x3
225x3
225x3

These felt tougher than usual but i got through them

Clean Pulls
6 sets of 2 @295

Front Split Jerk
95x3
115x2
135x1
155x3
155x3
155x3

Was supposed to do 3 sets of 5 but decided id rather do 5 sets of 3. BUT the left rotator cuff was giving me troubles because of mobility. got through it though and excited to behind the neck jerk tonight as thats much easier on my shoulders believe it or not.


RDL's

3x8@185lbs

3 sets of 15 toe touches holding a 25lb weight.

And that was that. so recently i had been supersetting some things but i found it throws off my structure a lot if i start doing clean pull while doing the jerks... then ill get sick of doing a jerk and just do the rest of my clean pulls and it just gets all weird. so ill try to stick to my exercises as it is on writing from now on!

Today is sort of a bro day, a lot of upper bod and abs which i'm totally ok with since that's what i need to work on the most!
 
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You're young lol, I started school at an old age. I was too busy chasing that stupid dollar. :/
youd be surprised how independent us 21y/o are.. especially in my area in way north wisconsin where we graduate with 50 people next to us... we are all on our own!
 
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see thats the thing i feel like half the time i go to school because thats what my family would want and what the united states "norms" are. the other half i think "well i need to get a degree so i can hopefully do something in a fitness/supplement field".
Almost any job requires a college degree of some type. A college degree is starting to become as common as a high school degree. Not only do we need degrees now, but you also need experience...for an entry level job. I was looking at openings a few months ago and some entry level positions require 3-5 years of experience. How the hell am I supposed to get experience if an entry level job requires it?
 

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