good, because as it stands now this will be the gist of my final review in review section...Completely agree,
good, because as it stands now this will be the gist of my final review in review section...Completely agree,
lol...i had just finished watching the zab judah danny garcia fight for the 2nd time...hence the boxing analogy. but i thought it described nicely how new epro has[is] working for me!!!Thanks for the updates, Tom.
Really?Anybody experiencing lethargy since starting new erase?
You sure it's from the new erase? The og erase gave me a calm feeling. Totally opposite.Anybody experiencing lethargy since starting new erase?
Never noticed any calming or anything similar wit the og erase. It always treated me well. Been on this new one since Saturday and when Monday hit, I've barely been able to wake up and have had little interest or energy / fire for the gymYou sure it's from the new erase? The og erase gave me a calm feeling. Totally opposite.
This is the first I've heard from the limited feedback. From a science perspective, I see no reason for this to occur with the data I have available. I mean these sides can occur if you drop E too low, but there's typically a lag time, which doesn't seem to be the case hereNever noticed any calming or anything similar wit the og erase. It always treated me well. Been on this new one since Saturday and when Monday hit, I've barely been able to wake up and have had little interest or energy / fire for the gym
Not saying it's from it. Could be totally unrelated. Just thinking out loud. Maybe coop knows if there's any possibility of this as a side... Maybe I need to drop to two caps.
Yea man this really sucks. I literally don't wanna do ANYTHING. Simple tasks seem daunting and I keep putting stuff off. For what it's worth- body comp is changing already, mostly in belly. But yea this is strange feeling so blah and unmotivated.This is the first I've heard from the limited feedback. From a science perspective, I see no reason for this to occur with the data I have available. I mean these sides can occur if you drop E too low, but there's typically a lag time, which doesn't seem to be the case here
I'm also taking 3 caps of norcodrene + 200-400 mg caffeine a day. So idfk at this pointYea man this really sucks. I literally don't wanna do ANYTHING. Simple tasks seem daunting and I keep putting stuff off. For what it's worth- body comp is changing already, mostly in belly. But yea this is strange feeling so blah and unmotivated.
Good deal! Looking forward to hearing your results and feedback bro.Just started up the new Erase Pro today. Will update when I start to notice changes.
Hey LTL...clear your box bro!Good deal! Looking forward to hearing your results and feedback bro.
It's possible your E was out of range before, and since then it has come closer to or within normal range .How come the first few runs with erase that I had i saw dramatic results (almost instantly) but with subsequent runs and now with the new erase formula, not seeing anything astounding (diet and training totally unrelated) literally no body comp changes in a while.... It would lead me to believe an AI simply may not be needed?
i really like the new erase pro, iv done a bottle already 4 weeks ago looking back at pics its really nice 'look' when your on and it kicks in. i have 1 bottle coming and lucky enough i won the giveaway on ig, so picked erase pro!! i have everything now haha 3 anabeta elite, 2 norco, og erase, and recompadrol + slin sane. hoping to run it along with og erase see how it goesIt's possible your E was out of range before, and since then it has come closer to or within normal range .
You're in for a real treat. The stack should have you feeling great, dropping bodyfat, and gaining LBM. EP/Erase of the new variety work exceptionally well with norcodrene, and it goes without saying that ABE also potentiates the cAMP-dependent aspects of norcodrene-induced fat loss.i really like the new erase pro, iv done a bottle already 4 weeks ago looking back at pics its really nice 'look' when your on and it kicks in. i have 1 bottle coming and lucky enough i won the giveaway on ig, so picked erase pro!! i have everything now haha 3 anabeta elite, 2 norco, og erase, and recompadrol + slin sane. hoping to run it along with og erase see how it goes
Great points here coop. The summary on our new products really touches on the key that they are better designed to really shine when stacked.You're in for a real treat. The stack should have you feeling great, dropping bodyfat, and gaining LBM. EP/Erase of the new variety work exceptionally well with norcodrene, and it goes without saying that ABE also potentiates the cAMP-dependent aspects of norcodrene-induced fat loss. I hope people can appreciate how the lineup is coming together. Before, stacking Erase with Anabeta Elite may have been too much...too much suppression of cortisol and unwanted sides. The way we have everything set presently (which will be further shown with future releases), all PES products will jive or synergize together tremendously based on your goals.
yeah im acutally eating a little higher carbs than a few weeks ago and having lighter weigh ins every day feeling great. with no change in cardio or anything either, very happy with my results so far, i have pictures of me back at 178lbs and i thought i was 'somewhat lean' now i slap myself what was i thinking lol. but working with my coach is the biggest factor, adding in all these great products have helped give me that edge.You're in for a real treat. The stack should have you feeling great, dropping bodyfat, and gaining LBM. EP/Erase of the new variety work exceptionally well with norcodrene, and it goes without saying that ABE also potentiates the cAMP-dependent aspects of norcodrene-induced fat loss.
I hope people can appreciate how the lineup is coming together. Before, stacking Erase with Anabeta Elite may have been too much...too much suppression of cortisol and unwanted sides. The way we have everything set presently (which will be further shown with future releases), all PES products will jive or synergize together tremendously based on your goals.
at your weight[167] new epro should treat you well....i also like the new version of epro but at slightly over 200 have to add in an erase!!!i really like the new erase pro, iv done a bottle already 4 weeks ago looking back at pics its really nice 'look' when your on and it kicks in. i have 1 bottle coming and lucky enough i won the giveaway on ig, so picked erase pro!! i have everything now haha 3 anabeta elite, 2 norco, og erase, and recompadrol + slin sane. hoping to run it along with og erase see how it goes
at your weight[167] new epro should treat you well....i also like the new version of epro but at slightly over 200 have to add in an erase!!!
the effects did improve over time, but once i added in a regular erase i realized that is where i wanted to be effects wise. getting 50- 75mg arimistane like effects with no joint issues and IMPROVED libido.I thought you said that you spoke too soon and that 1 cap works well, but it just takes more time to kick in?
i would be happy driving an e-class mercedes, but then you drive s-class and realize---damn!!!I thought you said that you spoke too soon and that 1 cap works well, but it just takes more time to kick in?
I drive a 07 Hyundai Sonata.i would be happy driving an e-class mercedes, but then you drive s-class and realize---damn!!!
then you might need 3 caps....:rofl:I drive a 07 Hyundai Sonata.
Formestane on the way out? Come again???? LOL!!!the effects did improve over time, but once i added in a regular erase i realized that is where i wanted to be effects wise. getting 50- 75mg arimistane like effects with no joint issues and IMPROVED libido.
if pes were to tweak dosage of epro i would be a very happy/satisfied customer....since formestane is on the way out this would be my go to aromatase inhibiter!!!
Formasurge, the BPS productFormestane on the way out? Come again???? LOL!!!
I know this has been answered but I cannot for the life of me remember. Sorry lol but if u look around a little more u will find it unless u just wanna wait for an answer or someone can direct you to the right threadhello all im an old school guy...i have been on eca stack and glycobol on and off cycles the past two years....looking to hit up an AI product...and well stumbled on this new erase...my question: is the new erase a suicide or competive inhibitor of the aromatse enzyme....what is the comparison ie ATD(suicide) or prehaps letro(competitive)? My goals are aesthetics in bodybuilding, thanks all glad to see the community doing well.
COOPs response in another thread about it being suicidal or not..........hello all im an old school guy...i have been on eca stack and glycobol on and off cycles the past two years....looking to hit up an AI product...and well stumbled on this new erase...my question: is the new erase a suicide or competive inhibitor of the aromatse enzyme....what is the comparison ie ATD(suicide) or prehaps letro(competitive)? My goals are aesthetics in bodybuilding, thanks all glad to see the community doing well.
I can attest to this. I did 4 weeks of new erase and stopped dead from 3 caps a day to zero.. I noticed no rebound effects. I did not notice much change in body comp until day 18-20 I would say, though. So this should definitely be run for 8 weeks to get the full effects. Libido was definitely increased, alongside norcodrene and the amentoflavoneCOOPs response in another thred about it being suicide or not..........
"First, I can go in depth at a later time, but rebound is a fairly nonexistent phenomenon due to the rapid adaptability of gene transcription. It was never an issue to begin with. Competitive vs suicidal AIs simply give fast on-fast off effects, vs slow on-slow off. The evidence at this point is that it is an allosteric inhibitor of aromatase. This could be suicidal or short-lived; the data isn't there, and the bloodwork doesn't tell a clear-cut tale. One thing that definitely isn't observed though is an INCREASE in estrogen (aka rebound), so write that off your list of concerns"
Thanks for the update. Would love to hear further feedback in the coming weeks.I'm on day three of the new formula... Based on my reasearh of the reviews , albeit few, the absence of dry joints and the threat if rebound has influence my decision to dose strong. So I am taking three caps all at once in the am and after three days I have no joint issues. Other observations : 1. No change in the gym yet...still normal pumps tightness in muscle groups 2. Aesthic wise ,it appears my estro and cortisol sites...above the hip, lower ab and lower chest area slightly tighter... These are the mirror results so far I Will report every thusday Thanks to everyone