That's nothing compared to what I did to her...HeeeeyooWhy you negg my mom, bro?!
That's nothing compared to what I did to her...HeeeeyooWhy you negg my mom, bro?!
MehThat's nothing compared to what I did to her...Heeeeyoo
I support you and your mom Vdeez
Oh come on!!! I was proud of that one. I worked hard on that and all I get is a "Meh"..... No respect
My manI support you and your mom Vdeez
Try harder... it lacked pizzazz, wow me, you're just not the sameOh come on!!! I was proud of that one. I worked hard on that and all I get is a "Meh"..... No respect
If you cant handle me at my worst you don't deserve me at my best.My man
Knew you'd be there for me, lol!
Try harder... it lacked pizzazz, wow me, you're just not the same
You used to be SOMEONE, now you're just SOMEONE ELSE.If you cant handle me at my worst you don't deserve me at my best.
Take it easy MarilynIf you cant handle me at my worst you don't deserve me at my best.
Now you're just someone else's someoneYou used to be SOMEONE, now you're just SOMEONE ELSE.
De_eb will be an asset to this forum with his knowledge base. I hope to see more of him in the advanced discussion section as wellIs it just me or is De-ebs speaking a lot of sense! Unless I'm mistaken his observation about the SAAs sold and said companies and those used in the study warrants some thought and consideration.
Take yourself and your agenda out of here
coop has still from time to time somethings to learnDe_eb will be an asset to this forum with his knowledge base. I hope to see more of him in the advanced discussion section as well
He was being sarcastic with the first post (I think!)coop has still from time to time somethings to learn
Touey has still from time to time somethings to learnHe was being sarcastic with the first post (I think!)
Everyone has still constantly some things to learnTouey has still from time to time somethings to learn
“Wisdom cannot be imparted. Wisdom that a wise man attempts to impart always sounds like foolishness to someone else ... Knowledge can be communicated, but not wisdom. One can find it, live it, do wonders through it, but one cannot communicate and teach it.”-Hermann HesseEveryone has still constantly some things to learn
an amino chain unique in nature and sourcing, that may help provide more recovery/anti-oxidant protection/and endurance levelsWhat is the benefit of SAA's anyway? Sorry for my ignorance but I haven't really looked into them that much...
Really interested in knowing this as well.So back on topic, is there an SAA product on the market that contains actual hydrolyzed silk protein with the associated sericin-s peptides?
Because:
-Finaflex
-TrueNutrition
-BPI
appear to not be the material I'm looking for.
Any more obscure online brands selling it perhaps?
Side note: I've got nothing personal against snag, he's just a sales rep doing his job, and he does it well.
Thanks for the infoan amino chain unique in nature and sourcing, that may help provide more recovery/anti-oxidant protection/and endurance levels
another form of aminos, to add to the profile matrix you currently consume
Animal research shows some increased time to failure, as well as some minor metabolic changes.What is the benefit of SAA's anyway? Sorry for my ignorance but I haven't really looked into them that much...
Why are you so mad/defensive all the time?the first go-round with the start of this thread was "supposedly" to find a product that contain hydrolyzed silk..now, it is promulgated by the very same individual who claims above, that no such research shows valid effects in humans...hmmm, was waiting for the other inevitable shoe to drop, as I knew it wouldsome things are so predictablein any event: to the forum in general, we are in the process of contacting the ppl involved in the study, for clarification on the text of the published data and what was used..will advise when I find out more informationthanks
exogenous androgen perhaps?Why are you so mad/defensive all the time?
Lots of stuff isn't validated by published data in humans, that doesn't mean it's not worth looking into further. Can't do that without the proper material though. Which is what I'm trying to find.
exactly my pointLots of stuff isn't validated by published data in humans, that doesn't mean it's not worth looking into further.
1. It appears to be his natural psycheWhy are you so mad/defensive all the time?
Lots of stuff isn't validated by published data in humans, that doesn't mean it's not worth looking into further. Can't do that without the proper material though. Which is what I'm trying to find.
Because, a hydrolyzed protein would contain Sericin-S peptides where as utilizing just free form amino acids would not.exactly my point
assuming a hydrolyzed protein was indeed used for this study (we are not too sure of this yet, as there is mention of both free form and hydrolyzed in there), why are you so convinced that our product will NOT provide equivalent results to a hydrolyzed source when we are utilizing same sourcing just different form?
please explain
Do you understand the science you're trying to discuss? It really feels like you don't, and I'm not saying that trying to be rude.I will not speak on other companies and what formulation they choose to use..that is their business and no concern of minewhat I will say however: we have chosen to not use a synthetic amino derivative that is not from silkworm, as it does not present a complete chain, in comparison
And that's how you do that!I have faith in our product. So much so that me and the rest of the guys are gonna give some away. Check it out.
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/company-promotions/233260-who-wants-some.html
Silence a mob?And that's how you do that!
Silence my momSilence a mob?
Basically I believe there is no peptides of different sizes involved, however this could be custom made
in case you feel peptides of different sizes is what you prefer for the SAA, this is not difficult for us
Sericin and Fibroin are only the names of different form of silk protein, so it is impossible for SAA to
contain Sericin or Fibroin, actually SAA are hydrolysate of sericin or fibroin
That's what my very first [serious] post said too...it doesn't say "hydrolyzed silk protein," therefore it has to be just free form amino acidsSnags had it covered from the get-go. If a product contains amino acids (of any form) then why would it contain silk protein?.
Snags and iparatroop handled it well
This is simply...not true...your manufacturer seems to lack basic understanding of what's going on here...copy of excerpt from the manufacturer, to the owner of our company:
Basically I believe there is no peptides of different sizes involved, however this could be custom made
in case you feel peptides of different sizes is what you prefer for the SAA, this is not difficult for us
Sericin and Fibroin are only the names of different form of silk protein, so it is impossible for SAA to
contain Sericin or Fibroin, actually SAA are hydrolysate of sericin or fibroin
thank you all for your patience in this matter
we continue to strongly support our product, and believe it is simply the best of a unique idea of formulation that only a handful of companies are attempting to explore at this time..we will continue to Redefine the industry with ground-breaking products
Whoa, you're telling me Sericin will create the michael jackson effect?This is simply...not true...your manufacturer seems to lack basic understanding of what's going on here...
Sericin = protein
Sericin-L & Sericin-S = peptides
These peptides are demonstrated to both exist and show increased potency in both of the following studies:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16473778
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9501526
Both of these studies validate the existence and absorption of Sericin-S peptides hydrolyzed from the protein sericin within silk amino acid preparations.
Can I just ask yah why keep up with it? In a polite way that is...you already got your point across. Now , what's the REAL intent of this thread? You know none of this companies have Sericin-C or Hydrolized Silk peptides...so what are you REALLY after?This is simply...not true...your manufacturer seems to lack basic understanding of what's going on here...
Sericin = protein
Sericin-L & Sericin-S = peptides
These peptides are demonstrated to both exist and show increased potency in both of the following studies:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16473778
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9501526
Both of these studies validate the existence and absorption of Sericin-S peptides hydrolyzed from the protein sericin within silk amino acid preparations.
Exactly. From what I've seen around and about De_eB stirs the pot a little to see how companies and reps are able to answer questions and how well they understand their products. Makes for interesting reading.That's what my very first [serious] post said too...it doesn't say "hydrolyzed silk protein," therefore it has to be just free form amino acids
Strong second post.It's ****
LolStrong second post.
Wormy jackal strikes againIt's ****
Peptides are small groups of amino acids yes? Silk Amino Acids have the amino profile of a silk protein but not in the form of peptide chains therefore they can claim to be silk amino acids as that is what they are.This is simply...not true...your manufacturer seems to lack basic understanding of what's going on here...
Sericin = protein
Sericin-L & Sericin-S = peptides
These peptides are demonstrated to both exist and show increased potency in both of the following studies:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16473778
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9501526
Both of these studies validate the existence and absorption of Sericin-S peptides hydrolyzed from the protein sericin within silk amino acid preparations.