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Since the whole take down of PP I can't buy the trs stack for a reasonable price. Any suggestions on a good 4 week pct??
That's easy to beat !!!!!want more DAA?
can't beat this.. OR CAN YOU? :woohoo:
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X2 on this maybe some trib. And 2.0 I wasn't dogging the product just would be cheaper to produce if you totally left it out since even 350mg will not be any noticeable gains, just for others who don't know the studied And researched does was over 3000mg. Good luck with you pct, just one question for op why didn't you use torem or Nolva? Just didn't think it was needed or could you not find it? ThanksErase Pro + DAA will be money. Erase Pro has ingredients that work through the SERM pathway, as well as an effective AI and cortisol control. DAA will increase hypothalamic output of gonadotropins - its win for pct
Tribulus terrestris? How about no...X2 on this maybe some trib. And 2.0 I wasn't dogging the product just would be cheaper to produce if you totally left it out since even 350mg will not be any noticeable gains, just for others who don't know the studied And researched does was over 3000mg. Good luck with you pct, just on question for op why didn't you use torem or Nolva? Just didn't think it was needed or could you not find it? Thanks
Since the whole take down of PP I can't buy the trs stack for a reasonable price. Any suggestions on a good 4 week pct??
trib is actually great for libidoTribulus terrestris? How about no...
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And nothing else.trib is actually great for libido
And the tribulus had literally no effect on that.When coming off andromass for 8 weeks I Did erase, bulbine, tribulus, and daa, and came off fine
and DAA boosts test and estro. nothing else. whats your point?And the tribulus had literally no effect on that.
Boosting natural test production is kinda the point of PCT. Boosting libido and nothing else really isn't a major concern when you're talking about returning your bodies hormone production to its normal levels.and DAA boosts test and estro. nothing else. whats your point?
When coming off andromass for 8 weeks I Did erase, bulbine, tribulus, and daa, and came off fine
And the tribulus had literally no effect on that.
and DAA boosts test and estro. nothing else. whats your point?
you made my point exactly.It is simple . . . his point is this:
Yes, the PCT worked fine BUT it had NOTHING to do with the inclusion of trib. Trib is not a PCT product unless you are looking for additional libido boost, which many notice from daa and Erase.
if you made this statement in regards to something like "is trib okay as my PCT" then sure but he was saying he took trib ALONG WITH other supplements. idk why this is such a big deal. some people like extra help with libido and get that effect from trib. get over it.Boosting natural test production is kinda the point of PCT. Boosting libido and nothing else really isn't a major concern when you're talking about returning your bodies hormone production to its normal levels.
I made the initial statement as a response to this. Everything else has come as a response to my initial response to this.X2 on this maybe some trib. And 2.0 I wasn't dogging the product just would be cheaper to produce if you totally left it out since even 350mg will not be any noticeable gains, just for others who don't know the studied And researched does was over 3000mg. Good luck with you pct, just one question for op why didn't you use torem or Nolva? Just didn't think it was needed or could you not find it? Thanks
i 100% understand what you response was and what it was a response to....I made the initial statement as a response to this. Everything else has come as a response to my initial response to this.
Everybody's so damn touchy tonight. Is this like the designated time of the month for AM members?
that's easy to take care . . . there are pics of women in sexy clothing on the internets!My only point is that tribulus is an unnecessary expense as part of a PCT regimen and does not need to be there unless you feel like wasting money for a boner.
P5sky gets it, why can't you?
And for free!that's easy to take care . . . there are pics of women in sexy clothing on the internets!
hmmm. lets think this out so maybe even you can understand....My only point is that tribulus is an unnecessary expense as part of a PCT regimen and does not need to be there unless you feel like wasting money for a boner.
P5sky gets it, why can't you?
Really?i 100% understand what you response was and what it was a response to....
So the dude saying he should add tribulus to his PCT doesn't qualify as a reason to point out it being an unnecessary expense?if you made this statement in regards to something like "is trib okay as my PCT" then sure but he was saying he took trib ALONG WITH other supplements. idk why this is such a big deal. some people like extra help with libido and get that effect from trib. get over it.
And literally none of that has anything to do with recovering from shutdown after a cycle.hmmm. lets think this out so maybe even you can understand....
1.) some people enjoy having a high libido
2.) there have been some cases where people have not seen an increase in libido when taken DAA
3.) Erase Pro minimizes estrogen which has a key role in libido
4.) most PCTs are only 4 weeks, and some people do not notice a huge jump in libido from stacks till week 3.
Really?
So the dude saying he should add tribulus to his PCT doesn't qualify as a reason to point out it being an unnecessary expense?
The only one making a big deal out of this is you, I'm letting OP know that he doesn't need tribulus to recover effectively and you are arguing its efficacy as a libido booster.
And literally none of that has anything to do with recovering from shutdown after a cycle.
Go change your tampon or something bro.
Then why are you arguing at all?! No one is saying it doesn't enhance libido!You are making a subjective statement. What is unnecessary for you may not be the case for somebody else. you may recover great from low libido during PCT without trib. thats fine. dont take it. but others love it and like it as a part of a natty stack or OTC PCT.
this is the last thing im going to say than im done with this thread. i stated first that it is great for libido. then you said thats about all it does or something along the lines of that. Then you started to say it is not needed. I fully understand it isnt needed to recover from a cycle. I AM NOT ARGUING THAT
I didn't say that's what you said, that is what this post is about!I would love for you to quote any one of my posts when i once said trib is effective in recovery. please. humor me.
first time i used TRS, i used it with clomid (16-week androseries run).X2 on this maybe some trib. And 2.0 I wasn't dogging the product just would be cheaper to produce if you totally left it out since even 350mg will not be any noticeable gains, just for others who don't know the studied And researched does was over 3000mg. Good luck with you pct, just one question for op why didn't you use torem or Nolva? Just didn't think it was needed or could you not find it? Thanks
What debate? He was arguing that it was an effective libido booster and I was saying it was an effective libido booster.R1balla wins the debate imo... What did everyone else think?
Ok does argument work better? Catfight maybe? And yes there was debate on tribs place in pct, etc. There were 2 obvious sides. Maybe you were unaware of that...What debate? He was arguing that it was an effective libido booster and I was saying it was an effective libido booster.
I'm not sure what debates you ever followed but they usually have to have two different beliefs.
I still don't like the formulation. At 4 caps you get LESS THAN 1300mg of daa (prop blend), but 200mg of the AI in Erase. I dont think ANYONE recommends 200mg of Erase.well wasn't this thread just a fun exercise in back-and-forthism...
first time i used TRS, i used it with clomid (16-week androseries run).
i'm running a shorter cycle now, PCT Black looks fine for my needs, and i have serm in backyard if need be.
btw - you quoted 1 pill of PCT Black for ingredient profile..rec dose is 2-4 caps per serving.
if you don't like it, then you don't have to use it?I still don't like the formulation. At 4 caps you get LESS THAN 1300mg of daa (prop blend), but 200mg of the AI in Erase. I dont think ANYONE recommends 200mg of Erase.
Lol to be honest I skimmed through that whole debateR1balla wins the debate imo... What did everyone else think?
at least houstontexas can read and follow along to know what i am trying to sayOk does argument work better? Catfight maybe? And yes there was debate on tribs place in pct, etc. There were 2 obvious sides. Maybe you were unaware of that...
totally not what i was arguing. go re read all the posts. I was arguing, for some people, trib can be effective as a part of PCT depending on what they are wanting and looking for. you were simply saying its unnecessary in PCTWhat debate? He was arguing that it was an effective libido booster and I was saying it was an effective libido booster.
I'm not sure what debates you ever followed but they usually have to have two different beliefs.
I said it has no effect on hormonal recovery during pct and is an unnecessary expense in PCT as far as hormonal recovery goes.totally not what i was arguing. go re read all the posts. I was arguing, for some people, trib can be effective as a part of PCT depending on what they are wanting and looking for. you were simply saying its unnecessary in PCT
okayI said it has no effect on hormonal recovery during pct and is an unnecessary expense in PCT as far as hormonal recovery goes.