why would you throw out all studies based on this?
the average increase for daa boosting test was 50%, and if it were consistently measured at higher levels for most ppl, then that would be noted in the study.
stop throwing in the n=1, who the hell needs that addition in this?
look at old creatine studies, you have kidney shutdown and dehydration, ppl thought it was a death trap and that was only 10 years ago, and that you'd have longterm kidney issues. these studies are still relevant to some, it all depends on the angle you take when supporting or aiming to discredit a supplement.
YOU choose to discredit arginine, and you've posted your thoughts, same goes for the opposition.
why was and is arginine used to help as a "natural" remedy for erectile dysfunction?
I think you need to relax. Aleksander and I have nothing against each other, we were simply arguing two sides of the coin. He has data that I don't have access to and would love to see, but that doesn't mean we don't have a mutual respect for one another, he's a great guy.
You on the other hand are once again making things personal. With a nice "you" in all caps if I may add.
You're also asking a lot of questions.
Q1: When did I say I'm throwing out all studies?
Q2: I thought he had only one test subject, again a misunderstanding. We got that worked out like 2 days ago, and yet hear you are calling me out. Please read. Also, relax. This is a discussion.
Q3: It's not about the angle. There are always studies showing significance and then a new study pops up showing no signficance or vice versa. The point is to draw conclusions based on the research parameters and quality of each study, as well as understanding the overall picture of each study.
Statement 1: I do not
choose to discredit arginine. Aleksander does not
choose to credit arginine. This is science bud. I have research proving my view, and he apparently has research of his own proving his view. We're not here just throwing out opinions based on anecdotes.
Q4: Let me ask you: Why is arginine in almost every pump product? Why is glutamine sold VERY widely as a recovery agent? If you look into the more modern research, citrulline is actually what is now under the microscope for erectile dysfunction. Likewise, glutamine has been proven useless again and again for recovery.
I'm sorry, but if you're going to come in here after the debate between Aleksander and myself has been straightened out, you better lose the tone and offer your own,
valid scientific viewpoints.