I guess it can be kind of a gray area with definitions... What makes Epistane a steroid (or not a steroid?)?
How does it compare to things like Dianabol?
How does it compare to things like Dianabol?
But most so called "prohormones" are steroids in their own right - take androstenedione for example. It's a steroid (displays activity at the androgen receptor) but is almost always labelled a "prohormone" because it converts to test. By that logic test could also be called a prohormone because it converts to DHT (or estradiol).Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's a steroid because it is an active hormone on its own, meaning it doesn't have to convert to another hormone in the body to exert its effects, like a prohormone does.
And sometimes they are both with the "prohormone" having intrinsic anabolic properties even before conversion.however, basically all prohormones are modified or designer versions of steroids that either are, or convert to active substances in the body.
Okay, I was oversimplifying it a lot. I see what you're saying and I agree. That's just the way I was trying to show the difference between these products which are sometimes labeled prohormones, like Methasteron which I don't see as really a precursor yet as an active steroid on its own, and products like 3-AD. But I see the problem with explaining it that way. I'm glad you pointed that out.But most so called "prohormones" are steroids in their own right - take androstenedione for example. It's a steroid (displays activity at the androgen receptor) but is almost always labelled a "prohormone" because it converts to test. By that logic test could also be called a prohormone because it converts to DHT (or estradiol).
A true prohormone would be something like Vitamin D which displays no hormonal activity itself, but converts to a molecule which does.
1) No need for conversion.I guess it can be kind of a gray area with definitions... What makes Epistane a steroid (or not a steroid?)?
How does it compare to things like Dianabol?
Gotcha. I'm not concerned with testing or any of that; I'm just trying to figure out which of the popular things out today are made from Timbuktu Walawalawala Root type bull****, and which things are actual "useful" stuff. (No offense to the grasseater folks, just not my bag of tricks).1) No need for conversion.
2) Less water retention, bloat. Kind of like cousins. Ones big and beefy, the other is hard and less bloated. Both are rather sides free with obvious cautions.
3) The only difference in this moment is the scheduling. With neither you are no longer "natural."
wait a min so you are saying that epistane and havoc are REAL steroids and not PH's???Yes you are correct wolfe. Dont forget to add the "tren" products in that mix though.
None of those three are PH's though. All are active steroids.
To the OP. Just google the name. It takes 10 seconds to find the actual active steroid for any compound out.
In order:Will Epistane show up on a steroid test?
If so, what pro-hormones can I take that will not?
Also, is Epitiostanol and epitestosterone the same thing?
If an AAS test checks for epitestosterone, is Epistane going to convert into that?
wait a min so you are saying that epistane and havoc are REAL steroids and not PH's???
Yes that is what i am saying. Whats the real difference to you anyways? Both do the same thing.wait a min so you are saying that epistane and havoc are REAL steroids and not PH's???
Not to get off topic, but I was under the assumtion that most "tren" products (obviously aside from inject. trenbolone) are prohormones (dienelone precursors) and not steroids. I could be way off though. If I am disregard the comment, as my area of expertise is lacking in the progestin category.Yes you are correct wolfe. Dont forget to add the "tren" products in that mix though.
None of those three are PH's though. All are active steroids.
To the OP. Just google the name. It takes 10 seconds to find the actual active steroid for any compound out.
look at the ingrediants. What makes a damn steroid is NOT the name, but whats in it.so EPISTERONE is a
PH/ ROID but if you go to amazon and look for this product it says its a pro-Anabolic? whats a Pro Anabolic? and assuming this a pct would be necessary?
lol, that was a terrible way to explain it......it has anabolic and androgenic activity as well...instead of needing to shave every other day I pretty muc hhave to shave every day....it is a steroid
dude your not getting it...Look up the ingredients in said product, then google each damn ingredient and look up what it is...ya or what things should you look for in a supp to know that supp does what it says Ie what builds muscles, burns fat...ECT what are some key identifiers?
What he saiddude your not getting it...Look up the ingredients in said product, then google each damn ingredient and look up what it is...
Thus letting you know if it is a roid...
Lolwhy did this thread need multiple bumps over multiple years.
youvare years too early on your bumpBump lol...jk
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