they mentioned a batch or lot number i not remember.i read that yesterday...now i'm afraid i still have a cycle's worth
You'll love phera, the strength and size gains are no joke. And the pumps are amazing. You have kind of euphoric feeling as well and in increase in libido and appetite for me.I'd REALLY like a batch number, I've got four bottles of the stuff and don't know how I feel about running Phera.
Okay, the batch number they did test was 105284. Problem is that that's the only batch they tested. Other problem is that three of my four bottles don't have batch numbers. ****.
I did one pulse cycle, and started getting pretty crazy strength increases right off the bat, like first week I was on. Haven't touched it since. wouldn't be surprised if that bottle had the phera in it. But who knows. I doubt even IBE could tell us.You'll love phera, the strength and size gains are no joke. And the pumps are amazing. You have kind of euphoric feeling as well and in increase in libido and appetite for me.
Epistane is synthesized from DMT, and will break down into DMT with heat. So if their method of analysis used heat, it's only logical that you would find DMT.
From this site
From Patrick Arnold
"at least part of epi's pharmacological activity is indeed due to its conversion to DMT"
Epistane's actions could possibly be entirely from it's conversion to DMT in the body. It's not a "bunk" batch of IBE's product...
Where are the IBE reps to clarify this??But will the 'S atom misplaced' compound transfer to DMT too?
(in bottle or in body?)
Base on the study, there is just no epistane in that epistane. There is only a similar structure compound. If that compound degraded to DMT, fine, we might need to take the bottle under the sun to generate more DMT. If that compound can't degrade to DMT naturally, then obviously DMT was added or contaminated. IBE will be in big trouble then.
there is one in BB forum, but I found him annoying. At first he claimed the paper is fake (obviously it's not), then he changed his tone, he said they tested every batch blah blah.Where are the IBE reps to clarify this??
Pfft yeah, those researches funded a massive conspiracy against IBE....there is one in BB forum, but I found him annoying. At first he claimed the paper is fake (obviously it's not), then he changed his tone, he said they tested every batch blah blah.
I start to think about some reviews i read in some forum...Pfft yeah, those researches funded a massive conspiracy against IBE....
maybe CEL too, their P-Plex got only one peak in NMR: DMT.IBE is in a Big Trouble.
Isn't P-Plex supposed to be DMT?maybe CEL too, their P-Plex got only one peak in NMR: DMT.
yeaIsn't P-Plex supposed to be DMT?
Epi is an androgenic steroid - not a prohormone.Ugh I was ab to order some too! Any suggestions on another ph for dry mass gentlemen?
they come out in hordes with stones a flyin when this stuff happens to another company.Where are the IBE reps to clarify this??
Pretty sure you are correct. Always have heard that Epi degrades into P-Plex. So it was probably Epi when it was put in the bottle but over time, some converted into Phera.i was under the impression that it was the molecule that was unstable, not just epistane but all the brands.
is it just from Ibe? what about other epi products?Pretty sure you are correct. Always have heard that Epi degrades into P-Plex. So it was probably Epi when it was put in the bottle but over time, some converted into Phera.
Interestingly enough nobody elses got tested besides ibe, kinda makes you think.is it just from Ibe? what about other epi products?
If Epi really does degrade over time into Phera, then no company could possibly prevent it. I'm sure if you took a bottle of Epi-Strong from a year and a half ago and tested it, there would be some amount of Phera in it. How quickly does Epi become Phera? I don't know but i'm sure it depends on how it was stored and the temperature and seal on the bottle.is it just from Ibe? what about other epi products?
Making me wonder about the two unopened bottles of Epistrong in my basement...If Epi really does degrade over time into Phera, then no company could possibly prevent it. I'm sure if you took a bottle of Epi-Strong from a year and a half ago and tested it, there would be some amount of Phera in it. How quickly does Epi become Phera? I don't know but i'm sure it depends on how it was stored and the temperature and seal on the bottle.
Uhoh, you better get rid of them. Hurry send them to me! :lmao:Making me wonder about the two unopened bottles of Epistrong in my basement...
Hell no! I was just wondering if they're done "degrading" yet.Uhoh, you better get rid of them. Hurry send them to me! :lmao:
lol yes.Isn't P-Plex supposed to be DMT?
I've got some "degrading" in my basement closet too :sgrin:Hell no! I was just wondering if they're done "degrading" yet.