Just outta curiosity, usp: Was this product 2 years in the making?
Because you were acting as unintelligent 3 days ago as he did today.LMFAO! So no log or no pics makes him fat 14 y/o? You said the same thing to me like 3 days ago. You are such a douche!
Shut your piehole... alcoholic bodybuilder.LMFAO! So no log or no pics makes him fat 14 y/o? You said the same thing to me like 3 days ago. You are such a douche!
Shut your piehole... alcoholic bodybuilder.
You ride nuts like swings. Hop off.
I have done a log on here and there are pics in it. I never said I was hyuge but I also do not say anything to anybody on here that I wouldn't say to them in person. I understand what you are saying about all the e-warriors, we have all dealt with one at some point. But I think its stupid to assume that just because someone speaks their mind and doesn't have a log or pics posted that they are a 14 y/o fat kid.Because you were acting as unintelligent 3 days ago as he did today.
You two seem like quite the match for each other!
I have listened to so many idiots on this board who talk all sorts of BS and don't have anything to back it up with. You can rant and rave and be the biggest guy in the world behind your little computer screen, but nobody knows it if you are just a faceless cannibal corpse cd cover that talks. You haven't given me a reason to take you seriously, the fact of the matter is is, you might be hyuge tim, but you also might be a sniveling little schoolgirl. I can't be sure, but I am leaning towards the latter.
Why is Tim an imposter?Rugger - present company excluded. My apologies.
Tim is an imposter.
Eh, I dunno... Just thought it sounded good.Why is Tim an imposter?
Dam you Rugger! You said you wouldn't tell anybody!Tims is actually a middle aged tranny who works at K-mart.
All I know is water chestnuts go great with soy sauce on them!! YUM!!
SHOW ME. I can't find it when I searched your posts... did it mysteriously vanish?I have done a log on here and there are pics in it. I never said I was hyuge but I also do not say anything to anybody on here that I wouldn't say to them in person. I understand what you are saying about all the e-warriors, we have all dealt with one at some point. But I think its stupid to assume that just because someone speaks their mind and doesn't have a log or pics posted that they are a 14 y/o fat kid.
It would be nice if you guys went for a banana split at Beth Marie's on the square. It would be quite a date.LOL.
You do not read correctly.
Funny how we are "fooling" people after 4 years in the industry.
We manufacture in India...read dummy.
Like I said come by and say hi or remain faceless its your integrity,
I'll find itSHOW ME. I can't find it when I searched your posts... did it mysteriously vanish?
I'll find it
It seems one could extrapolate that if it works quite well for an elite lifter that is near there genetic potential, that it would work quite well for an athlete not at that level.I am interested in Prime as well and have been seeing mainly the "feeling" symptoms as well. Not much actual weight gain or size noted yet in any of the logs i have looked at. I understand elites and such, but i am more interested in the average person such as mainly what this board is filled with. I am still following the prime logs and waiting to see what the average final weight/mass gain is to be.
I have looked over your log a couple of times. i respect your accomplishments as a drug tested lifter and understand that you are nearing your genetic maximum. I am just saying that i would enjoy seeing what it can do for the "average joe" bodybuilder and that is what i am interested in. I have read over written pieces stating that it works for you as well as other elites quite well...Now im waiting to see how it works for the average. I have a bottle on the way...just looking to see how big of ass kick it gives the regularsIt seems one could extrapolate that if it works quite well for an elite lifter that is near there genetic potential, that it would work quite well for an athlete not at that level.
I see people keep saying the only thing they are seeing in logs is the "feeling" good with no one with true noted results. Are people somehow overlooking the results I achieved with it. My records as a drug tested lifter are readily available online that i achieved while using Prime.
The choice is up to the consumer however to pick through the opinion or the info from people that provide the data such as myself.
3rd time...no 1st time.....other angry customers maybe?Sure is my home office in my house.
Come by for some tea big guy.
this must be the third time you post my house address.
Iron,So, are you the one that left the review of Prime on Nutra?
If so, I must say that I have never read anything so thorough and educational.
3rd time...no 1st time.....other angry customers maybe?
And dude....seriously why do you want me to come by?..gonna give me a free sample of prime?....thanks but no thanks. Theres nothing i'm going to say on here that cant be found using google. Its its public, ill post it.
Your company has a very interesting formula - hype up herbs available at any indian store - and sell them at a premium. Your a one man company with several reps splattered around the U.S. Everything is made in india by a "lab" that purchases the ingredients from local sources.
Its an outright lie to say you grow your own herbs, as in the case of AP. That damn tree takes 20-50 years to grow beore you extract the bark. I Dont know about you, but 4 years operating, minus 20 years for the tree to grow...you planed to do this 16 years ago...before you even left college?
Direct from your site:
"In fact, because of our expensive equipment, it’s common for our customers to receive a product that was harvested less than 30 days earlier, which is unheard of as many products are up to 2-3 years old by the time you receive them and are robbed of their potency and effectiveness."
Thats a lie an you know it. Shipping from india via cargo takes about 14-21 days, plus the time it takes to harvest, then reach wholesalers, then to stores....
"At USPLabs, we simply didn’t trust many sources of raw materials, so we decided to take matters into our own hands. Since our products are natural and organic, we decided to grow, harvest and cultivate the raw materials ourselves!
We purchased land with nutrient-filled fertile soil native to our herbs. This way, USPlabs products have the absolute best quality control and potency in the world! "
Er.....no. You bought land in india.....hahaha...right. Love to see the legal documentation on that one. Everything is done by a 3rd party and in actual fact you have no control over anything other than the label and the pill color seeing as you just admitted everything is made in india and USP is based in the USA...in your house.
And the man behind all of your product mixtures is ...."master herbalist Prahu R"...... scientist is he? Chemist maybe? or just an entrepreneur in india...hence the company name "strivi ventures".... (which has no registered address anywhere in india.... )
Im tired of seeing Bs after bs with your poduct write-ups, explanations .... if people wanna pay $50 for tribulus then go ahead....you need new rims for his black lexus anyway.
3rd time...no 1st time.....other angry customers maybe?
And dude....seriously why do you want me to come by?..gonna give me a free sample of prime?....thanks but no thanks. Theres nothing i'm going to say on here that cant be found using google. Its its public, ill post it.
Your company has a very interesting formula - hype up herbs available at any indian store - and sell them at a premium. Your a one man company with several reps splattered around the U.S. Everything is made in india by a "lab" that purchases the ingredients from local sources.
Its an outright lie to say you grow your own herbs, as in the case of AP. That damn tree takes 20-50 years to grow beore you extract the bark. I Dont know about you, but 4 years operating, minus 20 years for the tree to grow...you planed to do this 16 years ago...before you even left college?
Direct from your site:
"In fact, because of our expensive equipment, it’s common for our customers to receive a product that was harvested less than 30 days earlier, which is unheard of as many products are up to 2-3 years old by the time you receive them and are robbed of their potency and effectiveness."
Thats a lie an you know it. Shipping from india via cargo takes about 14-21 days, plus the time it takes to harvest, then reach wholesalers, then to stores....
"At USPLabs, we simply didn’t trust many sources of raw materials, so we decided to take matters into our own hands. Since our products are natural and organic, we decided to grow, harvest and cultivate the raw materials ourselves!
We purchased land with nutrient-filled fertile soil native to our herbs. This way, USPlabs products have the absolute best quality control and potency in the world! "
Er.....no. You bought land in india.....hahaha...right. Love to see the legal documentation on that one. Everything is done by a 3rd party and in actual fact you have no control over anything other than the label and the pill color seeing as you just admitted everything is made in india and USP is based in the USA...in your house.
And the man behind all of your product mixtures is ...."master herbalist Prahu R"...... scientist is he? Chemist maybe? or just an entrepreneur in india...hence the company name "strivi ventures".... (which has no registered address anywhere in india.... )
Im tired of seeing Bs after bs with your poduct write-ups, explanations .... if people wanna pay $50 for tribulus then go ahead....you need new rims for his black lexus anyway.
x2!i really look forward to a response to this!
If this and a "Gas Chromatography-Mass Spectrometry" cost $3 million, bro...no offense but you were ripped off (that was possibly some of the priciest real estate in rural india !)... wait though doesn't Strivitri Ventures make your stuff...?
Wow, this guy mushed patato is not only an expert in indian herbs but also real estate in india, u da man!If this and a "Gas Chromatography-Mass Spectrometry" cost $3 million, bro...no offense but you were ripped off (that was possibly some of the priciest real estate in rural india !)... wait though doesn't Strivitri Ventures make your stuff...?
im confused, who owns what?
No bro...wife is indian and have alot of indian/middle eastern friends. Been to india about 7 times, going again this fall.Wow, this guy mushed patato is not only an expert in indian herbs but also real estate in india, u da man!
Are you indian hindu bro?
So you like a bit of curry in your sauce eh? Good stuff dude. Just watch out for those crazy bombers, it's starting to go like Pakistan.No bro...wife is indian and have alot of indian/middle eastern friends. Been to india about 7 times, going again this fall.
If you crave attention this BADLY please at least post some proof behind your accusations. Right now all I am seeing is you pulling information out of your ass which does NOTHING to back up your arguement other then make you look like a dumbass.3rd time...no 1st time.....other angry customers maybe?
And dude....seriously why do you want me to come by?..gonna give me a free sample of prime?....thanks but no thanks. Theres nothing i'm going to say on here that cant be found using google. Its its public, ill post it.
Your company has a very interesting formula - hype up herbs available at any indian store - and sell them at a premium. Your a one man company with several reps splattered around the U.S. Everything is made in india by a "lab" that purchases the ingredients from local sources.
Its an outright lie to say you grow your own herbs, as in the case of AP. That damn tree takes 20-50 years to grow beore you extract the bark. I Dont know about you, but 4 years operating, minus 20 years for the tree to grow...you planed to do this 16 years ago...before you even left college?
Direct from your site:
"In fact, because of our expensive equipment, it’s common for our customers to receive a product that was harvested less than 30 days earlier, which is unheard of as many products are up to 2-3 years old by the time you receive them and are robbed of their potency and effectiveness."
Thats a lie an you know it. Shipping from india via cargo takes about 14-21 days, plus the time it takes to harvest, then reach wholesalers, then to stores....
"At USPLabs, we simply didn’t trust many sources of raw materials, so we decided to take matters into our own hands. Since our products are natural and organic, we decided to grow, harvest and cultivate the raw materials ourselves!
We purchased land with nutrient-filled fertile soil native to our herbs. This way, USPlabs products have the absolute best quality control and potency in the world! "
Er.....no. You bought land in india.....hahaha...right. Love to see the legal documentation on that one. Everything is done by a 3rd party and in actual fact you have no control over anything other than the label and the pill color seeing as you just admitted everything is made in india and USP is based in the USA...in your house.
And the man behind all of your product mixtures is ...."master herbalist Prahu R"...... scientist is he? Chemist maybe? or just an entrepreneur in india...hence the company name "strivi ventures".... (which has no registered address anywhere in india.... )
Im tired of seeing Bs after bs with your poduct write-ups, explanations .... if people wanna pay $50 for tribulus then go ahead....you need new rims for his black lexus anyway.
you want anabolic pants??? LMAO your a riot OZ.Da dang dang.. I look forward to this thread's continuance.
haha.. Glad I made you laugh poopy!you want anabolic pants??? LMAO your a riot OZ.
who are you again?If you crave attention this BADLY please at least post some proof behind your accusations. Right now all I am seeing is you pulling information out of your ass which does NOTHING to back up your arguement other then make you look like a dumbass.
Only thing you have posted is the address to his HOME office.. whoopdeedoo.. that is public information anyone can look up. And how does USP having a home office reflect anything about the products? My best friend runs his business out of a home office, is very well respected and does very very well for himself. Many entrepreneur's do this.
Poopy, give me a solid independent result for a study which shows that USP Prime significantly raises Luteinizing Hormone & total and free testosterone levels over other trib products and ill shut up.Mashed.... come on now, your starting to consipiracy theory this ish outta no where..... you cant tell me that both Cissus and powerfull and the OG Camphabolic and the likes of USPL havnt worked well from day one. Regardless of how he operates, probably with less over head then others if using his own home, he gets it done and puts together formulations and an extraction process that beats out any other comparable products that Ive tried..... dunno bout you but results speak for themselves and I havnt EVER got these types of results touted from standard or even claimed HIGH sap trib, in fact Im lucky if I get a bit of libido boost outta em.
Ill be runnin this myself come very soon and we'll see what its about for sure but this diggin and bickering has got to go, your not exposing some huge cover up or any consipiracy to push cheap herbs at high prices.... other wise Id be seeing yoked out indain fools behind the counter of my local shops (which I DO vist) please just conceed hes got something here and let it rest, your soundin rediculous.
B - im sure the product may work, but the write up on their website reaks of muscletech garbage.i'm with poopy on this, i've been given a free bottle of it from a friend who ordered 6 bottles in the inner circle sale, i have nothing to lose and no one to serve as far as what i get from it, so if it's crap, i'll say so but if it's good, i'll say so too.
at least give it time for customers who have run it at least 5 weeks to give back some feedback before drawing conclusions about if it's any good or not
Im pretty sure USPL has specifically stated in their write up it DIDNT raise LH and the mechanism isnt test boosting related but something else unknown. regardless read the writeup (even though its FULL of hype and sales) and you WILL get some knowledge about what makes this unique over reg trib.Poopy, give me a solid independent result for a study which shows that USP Prime significantly raises Luteinizing Hormone & total and free testosterone levels over other trib products and ill shut up.
Its great marketing on USP labs behalf though. Make alot of capital real quick before our brains kick in and realize...wait a minute.....its just trib. We've been down this freakin road so many times.....this place looks like more and more like a USP hype machine breeding ground.
Amen.as you have no backing to your claim other then opinion. Your fighting a batte with no ammo sir.
Again, who are you?Amen.
Like I said his slander has no substance. He tries to discredit everything USP claims they do behind the scenes.. but has no backing.
" adresses yes, all the other crap youve strewn about your posts are just malicious attempts to discredit a very reputable board sponsor that has a proven track record, much more so then your own."Im pretty sure USPL has specifically stated in their write up it DIDNT raise LH and the mechanism isnt test boosting related but something else unknown. regardless read the writeup (even though its FULL of hype and sales) and you WILL get some knowledge about what makes this unique over reg trib.
Its all good though regardless. Sounds like your jaded against them for one reason or another as I have used practically all thier products to date (including Camp and Symmetry which no longer exist) with great success. Powerfull and Cissus are staples of mine and AP has been in the mix for me for months now too.... Pslin is the BEST glycogen loader Ive ever used and will do things no other non hormonal non stimulant can do during your workout and post workout with the pump you get from that meal. My wife absolutley loves recreate and shes a stim junkie, so for here to obsess over something like this that isnt all that stimmy means something as well.
Bottom line is folks will have their own experiences with these products... dunno how extensive yours has been with their line... but it doesnt mean that cause it doesnt work for you you should smash on a guy personally, libel his company and think its ok cause what your saying is "posted on the net". adresses yes, all the other crap youve strewn about your posts are just malicious attempts to discredit a very reputable board sponsor that has a proven track record, much more so then your own.
Hype machine? that may be so peeps get excited but come on man, what are we here for? Sharing whats good and whats not. So those that are taking this and lovin it post up threads like this, but until you have taken this "bunk standard herb toted as a super pill" you should just leave it be as you have no backing to your claim other then opinion. Your fighting a battle with no ammo sir.
mash, i didn't pay for it so none of my hard earned went towards it and if i had desire i would have paid for it.B - im sure the product may work, but the write up on their website reaks of muscletech garbage.
Sure musletech works......but worth the price tag? Worth the insane amount of bs hype and lame graphs that mean absolutely nothing?
Not to me man. I respect your desire to use the product, but i disagree with USP labs methods of selling and product satisfaction. This isnt just about one product, its a whole line of twisted hype products which you spend your hard earned money on.
Im pretty sure USPL has specifically stated in their write up it DIDNT raise LH and the mechanism isnt test boosting related but something else unknown. regardless read the writeup (even though its FULL of hype and sales) and you WILL get some knowledge about what makes this unique over reg trib.
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" adresses yes, all the other crap youve strewn about your posts are just malicious attempts to discredit a very reputable board sponsor that has a proven track record, much more so then your own."
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Whatever man.Bingo. Who is claiming an increase LH?
I say that mash potato head should go buy some of them Indian herbs from his local shop (or better YET just direct someone to the website or address) and put them against my product and really add SUBTANCE to his argument or its just bickering and gossiping.
Not much can be said for a man that gossips on the internet besides being weak and feeble.
*************WELL SAID*********************I'll take facts and science over your amazing experience. When will people learn anecdotal reports from online dip shits mean nothing.
All i want to know is A) what the hell is it or B) a fuzzy mechanism of action.... I'm not asking for USP to show its hand completely or list specific extractions.
You shouldn't have to do 30 searches to even find out what the hell a new product is. All I know now is that its called Prime and its "amazing!" I'd like a lil something more tangible. Sorry
Aside from that, these claims are just getting way out of hand. Im sorry, I hate to rain on the parade. This is not a slam on USP alone - it is the entire industry as whole. It is just getting really silly. It is a bit disgraceful actually. I am a proponent of supplementation and better living through chemistry but this is just getting comical. 85% of the products I see on the shelves are completely useless.
Marketing a "pro-hormone" or a "Asteroid" (wtf is that anyway) along with pro-hormone effects but then saying it has zero hormonal effect is borderline fraud and clear false advertising. An FDA regulated drug company would get their ass sued for spouting such oxymoronic things. It simply CANT BE. Anabolic growth is pretty simple - hormones + calories. That's about it. However, as we all know. Just about any outlandish claims can be made in the supplement world.
From what I have seen, USP started out innovative and then slowly transitioned into deceptive. I guess that's the nature of the beast and the industry we all love.
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