My oh my, looks like I opened a veritable Pandora's Box with my criticism.
Actually, perhaps it was Jacob (USPLabs) lashing out at valid consumer questions and skepticism that triggered the backlash.
One only needs to re-read the interaction once to see it's pretty clear what happened. Whatever your conclusion, I prefer the skeptical tone of some of these comments to the blind adoration and marketing. This is a supplement board and this is a business. I understand AM will NEVER be the same. I support NutraPlanet and I understand my stance on most supplements being junk is counter-productive to the business. NP happens to offer many proven bulk items that I can support. But please, lets keep some sense of sanity and realism when we are giving advice to people and recommending supplements. I'm a necessary evil; a voice of reason and balance to this constant nonsense. If you silence people like me you might as well stop calling the site a "forum." The never ending hype machines and "Board Sponsor" posters and "Logs" I see sort of make me want to stay @ forums like Cutting Edge Muscle. I miss the old days... or even the days when the "hype" was a new designer prohormone that actually had noticeable results. I know its hypocritical to love the supplement industry yet call out the faults that allow it to exist, flourish, and survive. These two stances oppose each other but I am just being honest.
I admit, I've never tried Prime but I really don't see how the ingredients can possibly do anything besides lead to a slight (minuscule) increase in serum test that is so negligible it produces no noticeable real world effects. Hell, that would almost be a best case scenario to see it do that much. I feel that is likely more credit than is even due since Tribulus has yet to definitively do this in real world humans. There is essentially no literature backing up your claims. The bastardization and "massaging" of research and studies I have seen in some of these write-ups is laughable. This is essentially Tribulus (re-inventing the wheel here) and an overlooked adaptogenic flowering tree fruit. Adaptogenic basically means nothing. Adaptogens are the new darling buzz word of the industry. There are countless herbs and compounds that are adaptogenic in nature (like Ginseng, licorice, etc.) but do jack sh1t in terms of real world performance or immune benefit. By this time, if something is obscure and overlooked there is generally a reason. It wasn't because USPLabs "discovered" it. It is unknown and unused because everyone else who has researched & tested it in the last 50 years saw little to no promise in it. Those are the hard facts. You said it yourself Jacob, nobody "invents" anything in this industry. All that's left to invent is the marketing and you are doing a damn good job. Props for that. The write-ups, product design, and overall grass roots "testimonial" marketing approach is compelling and respectable. From a business perspective you are clearly pulling things together.
If your product is so miraculous send me a bottle. I'll gladly take it and report back fairly. I think you would be surprised how unbiased and fair I would be if I noticed ANYTHING. In fact, If I noticed ANYTHING at all I would be so shocked I would likely be left with no resort but genuine praise. This isnt a setup job. Maybe your Trib extraction really is something special. If I notice a damn thing I will gladly report it in any thread of your choosing. I have tested (and even reported back) on products here before - I am not anti-innovation here. There is really no need to insult me or try and discredit me. A guy like me can be a real headache in some of these marketing threads. Your best bet is to hope I go away and don't distract too many of the buying public.
Hopefully in the future when I post some genuine advice for someone you "reps" and "gurus" out there recognize a hornet's nest when you see one and leave it lie. You kicked one this time and I really don't think it worked out for you. It's about time the dissenting voice of reason got a little more respect around here. That said, I honestly will try to refrain from raining on anymore of your parades. I know it's bad for business.
By the way, in your posts and Official Prime write-up at your web page you constantly say "Adaptagen" or "Adaptagenic." The correct technical base word is usually considered
Adaptogen. Most consumers wont notice or care but for someone who has actually done reading on the subject it can be a bit distracting.
GOOD GAME
