Canadianguy
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how bad is the sugar in 1 cup of skim milk, its apporx 12-13g if ur dieting? ive been throwing 1 cup in alot of my meals for the extra protien boost.
AgreedYeah, I am definately not opening that page. I will remain happy in my ignorance regarding the skim milk that I drink daily.
I SAY TO YOU 'GOOD DAY, SIR!'
same. i miss my lactaid during a cut. thankfully i will be adding it back to my grocery list as of next week.I keep my milk drinking to when Im bulking, then the extra cals and protein are great. When it comes time for me to go on a cut milk is one of the first things to go for me.
Dr. Benjamin Spock
I disagree. As long as the milk fits with your dietary needs, then it's fine.if ur trying to cut...always water and protein when cutting
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Lactose is not high GI.Lactose is rather high on the glycemic index. Doesn't seem like the most diet friendly drink.
:think:...if ur trying to cut, lose the most fat...the carb/sugars in milk u dont need
I assume that you meant Lactose and not Lactaid (which is a modified-lactose free milk). GI for milk: http://www.carbs-information.com/glycemic-index/lactose-gi-value.htmMilk, or for that matter dairy products assist in weight loss. Lactaid all by itself is high on the GI. You have to consider the big picture, that everything else you put in your stomach at the same time is bringing down the GI of the sugar contained in the milk. Casien is slower to digest, that brings it down a notch. Then add in your 40+ grams of protien powder and you have lowered it even more. You are probably adding in or taking some type of EFA, GI goes down even more. You can even add fiber to the shake to lower it even further. So in the end count the calories, and do the work and you will get lean.
:goodpost:That being said if you want your carbs from another source then give it up from here, or choose something else. One thing is paramount caloric intake minus expenditure have to end up negative at the end of the day. Your body may thrive on a certain nutrient ratio while everyone else may not. Look at the big picture, everything you eat at one time is being digested at the same time so you have extra simple sugars in a meal high in protien and a little fat and fiber and it isn't going to hurt you. Don't get tied up in concentrating on that one puzzle peice when the rest of them are needed for the big picture.
yea thats pretty good advice, i made a post with a sample diet of my first day putting this cutting diet into play, it ddint get too many responses.Milk, or for that matter dairy products assist in weight loss. Lactaid all by itself is high on the GI. You have to consider the big picture, that everything else you put in your stomach at the same time is bringing down the GI of the sugar contained in the milk. Casien is slower to digest, that brings it down a notch. Then add in your 40+ grams of protien powder and you have lowered it even more. You are probably adding in or taking some type of EFA, GI goes down even more. You can even add fiber to the shake to lower it even further. So in the end count the calories, and do the work and you will get lean.
That being said if you want your carbs from another source then give it up from here, or choose something else. One thing is paramount caloric intake minus expenditure have to end up negative at the end of the day. Your body may thrive on a certain nutrient ratio while everyone else may not. Look at the big picture, everything you eat at one time is being digested at the same time so you have extra simple sugars in a meal high in protien and a little fat and fiber and it isn't going to hurt you. Don't get tied up in concentrating on that one puzzle peice when the rest of them are needed for the big picture.
No **** there man. If you can incorporate that into your daily caloric needs/balance, and you find it works well with your body, drink that nectar up!I know I will get **** for this, but I drink a gallon of milk a day, and I've been able to cut and bulk just fine....
Great for getting in calories / meal replacement, and protein!
The strongest I have ever been was when I was drinking over a gallon a day, so I don't care it comes from a cow, I eat cows, not people, so why would I be afraid of drinking their milk. Nutrients is nutrients.
BTW - Canada guy, if that is you in your avatar why the hell are you worried about the sugar in milk, obviously you have been able to get really lean with it so far!!
I assume that you meant Lactose and not Lactaid (which is a modified-lactose free milk). GI for milk: http://www.carbs-information.com/glycemic-index/lactose-gi-value.htm
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When one is eating more frequent smaller meals of whole foods with balanced macros then GI data is hardly useful.
GI is data is useful to determine when a processed food is less or more crappy than another.
Not to mention GI values are established on an empty stomach. IMO G.I. (to the degree most put on it) has hardly any carry over to us when meal overlaps/nutrient overlaps are ever present.I assume that you meant Lactose and not Lactaid (which is a modified-lactose free milk). GI for milk: Glycemic Index of Lactose, GI Value
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When one is eating more frequent smaller meals of whole foods with balanced macros then GI data is hardly useful.
GI is data is useful to determine when a processed food is less or more crappy than another.
Would you agree that using Anabolic Pump throughout the day would be effective in offsetting some of the negative aspects of there being so much sugar in milk? Prevent fat gain, etc?Disaccharides (most commonly seen sugars) digest differently in the body depending on which monosaccharides bonded, and in which manner. While table sugar and lactose are both disaccharides, they are not direct isomers, and thereby are digested much differently.
Milk, in my opinion, is too valuable of a dietary asset to be completely removed due to a mistaken assumption about its sugar content.
It would need to be accumulative to offset any potential storage; to my knowledge, Milk's digestion time is uncharacteristically long for a liquid: 4 hours, IIRC. As you said, though, if one was using Anabolic Pump for an extended period, and Insulin Sensitivity (via AMPk upregulation) was improved, it would most definitely help!Would you agree that using Anabolic Pump throughout the day would be effective in offsetting some of the negative aspects of there being so much sugar in milk? Prevent fat gain, etc?
ah thanks BigCasino but that was me like 1 and half years ago. then i kind of fell off the wagon and partied too much. got back into serious training for about 7 months now and bulked up to 220lbs. that picture i think i was about 178lbs and could have lost more fat in my arms...i hold fat there and it pisses me off its the last to go.I know I will get **** for this, but I drink a gallon of milk a day, and I've been able to cut and bulk just fine....
Great for getting in calories / meal replacement, and protein!
The strongest I have ever been was when I was drinking over a gallon a day, so I don't care it comes from a cow, I eat cows, not people, so why would I be afraid of drinking their milk. Nutrients is nutrients.
BTW - Canada guy, if that is you in your avatar why the hell are you worried about the sugar in milk, obviously you have been able to get really lean with it so far!!
That Calorie Countdown milk tastes like complete a$$, IMO.unless you are 6 weeks out from competition, i'd say that the sugar in milk is irrelevant. and if you like milk but want less carbs look for this
bingo. most realistic reply in this thread so far.unless you are 6 weeks out from competition, i'd say that the sugar in milk is irrelevant.
Smart Balance makes milk?!!! I'm so getting some of that.I go for this milk here. protein enriched, fish oil, ton of vitamin E, and tastes almost as good as whole milk to me.
http://www.smartbalance.com/MilkSkim.aspx
OUCH! That equals out a lot of carb cutting to make up the difference in calories of you must. Just call it an impromptu refeed. Unless you are getting ready for a contest shouldn't hurt you too bad for a couple days. May even reset your metabolism for higher caloric intake and make you burn a lil faster once gone.My wife threw off my nutrition planning a bit this week. She accidentally bought 2% instead of skim milk. 5g fat per cup adds up over the course of a day.
OUCH! That equals out a lot of carb cutting to make up the difference in calories of you must. Just call it an impromptu refeed. Unless you are getting ready for a contest shouldn't hurt you too bad for a couple days. May even reset your metabolism for higher caloric intake and make you burn a lil faster once gone.
If not you can always correct it with lots of this :bruce3:
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