strongsafety2
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im going to run havoc and phera plex.. thinking about throwing in winadrol. what do you guys think? stupid or no
im trying to gain about 15-20 poundswhat are ur goals?
i've done pp/sd beforewhat ur exp with ps/anabolic steroids? You could do Phera/superdrol
who said it was?Winadrol isn't prostanz, it's furaza...
^^^Yes, it may be good. Problem is Prostan/clones raise BP w/out much anabolic affect, so are possible BP sides worth it? Also Winadrol is $$$. If you've got it and were thinking 6wks, PP 1-4, Havoc bridge 4-6, Winadrol 4-6, yeah looks good. Winadrol 1-6 above 50-100mg = $$$.
yea def save the winadrol for a cut.i've done pp/superdrol before
m 1 test
havoc
so basically i should probably not do the winadrol right? i have the pp/havoc already.
how would you guys run the pp/hav?
yea def save the winadrol for a cut.
This is how i would do it
pp
20/30/30
havoc
30/30/30-40
Def get SAMe cycle support and drink 1.5-2 gals a day ull be good
nah, SAMe is the best for liver protection and helps with joints and depression and cycle support has liver + other support. With these ur goldenalright cool thanks man. and do you think that i should get perfect cyle by ax for more liver suport? or is the cycle support have enough for liver support
so are you saying that i could do something like an 8 week cycle maybe the first four weeks run pp/20mg then hav last four weeks 20mg?I'm not sure that I would run them together, but if I did there would be a few different options. Length and dosing could really vary with these two despite both being methyls.
Wk 1-2 20mg PP
Wk 3 20mg PP/20mg Havoc
Wk 4-5 30+ mg of Havoc
or just do a four weeker with low/moderate doseages of both throughout. Take the PP before workout and split the Havoc dosing for before/after workout (if the number of caps are uneven take the larger number post w/o). This same type of dosing could be applied to a longer pulse cycle of say, eight weeks. I'm not sure that any of these methods will get you a clean 15-20 pounds though. That's a lot to ask from any cycle, but not impossible (test and deca come to mind :twisted
so get both? and i appreciate all of the info guys.nah, SAMe is the best for liver protection and helps with joints and depression and cycle support has liver + other support. With these ur golden
If you are referring to pulsing, then yes ( http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/62121-how-pulse-orals.html ). I don't think that's what you meant though.so are you saying that i could do something like an 8 week cycle maybe the first four weeks run pp/20mg then hav last four weeks 20mg?
yessir. Dose the SAMe 4 hours after the phera/havoc too.so get both? and i appreciate all of the info guys.
That looks really damn fun. week 3 might be a bit harsh on sides though. If you could handle that, its one hell of a run!I'm not sure that I would run them together, but if I did there would be a few different options. Length and dosing could really vary with these two despite both being methyls.
Wk 1-2 20mg PP
Wk 3 20mg PP/20mg Havoc
Wk 4 (5 maybe) 30+ mg of Havoc
or just do a four weeker with low/moderate doseages of both throughout. Take the PP before workout and split the Havoc dosing for before/after workout (if the number of caps are uneven take the larger number post w/o). This same type of dosing could be applied to a longer pulse cycle of say, eight weeks. I'm not sure that any of these methods will get you a clean 15-20 pounds though. That's a lot to ask from any cycle, but not impossible (test and deca come to mind :twisted