Wrastlin season strength stack

SoupNaziNazi

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Okay so wrestling season is upon me. I'm currently 215 but I need to make the 197 class. My current thoughts for a stack to maintain or even gain strength is as follows. I've only been taking in around 115-150g of protein each day and my strength has skyrocketed so even tho I'll be doing a lot more cardio/exercise, due to being a broke college student I'll be keeping protein the same. The following supps will only be taken pre-workout which is only 2 days a week until the season is over. Tuesday and Saturdays to be specific.

-Caffeine 200-700mg usually around 500mg depending on the time of day and energy levels.
-creatine 5mg every other day and after workouts, have been taking this for a month straight once a day to get in my system
-betaine, 1g preworkout
-Alpha GPC 600mg preworkout
-amentomax 2-3 caps depending on how I'm feeling
-citrulline 3mg preworkout

I'm not sold on the citrulline yet for strength maintain/gains so depending on if it makes the cut or not I won't be taking that. Any suggestions on dosing or other cheap ingredients that effect strength. I'm not taking Anabeta or ArA due to the fact that they are more expensive and also I don't want any sort of inflammation from the ArA during season.
 
That's really low protein. There is no reason to take any supplements if you aren't eating enough. Where are the calories at?
 
You taking a fishoil by chance? i would make sure you are 2-3g of EPA/DHA
get at least 3-5g of creatine on workout days, that should be plenty or as stated by ripper 3g on off days to keep saturation

Betaine maybe up to 2g if you can, 1g may be a bit low
Citrulline Malate has been shown best at 6g pre-workout to aid lactic acid build up (preventing it) and also help with pump during a workout, not so much strength/size gains unless your eating for your gains. Diet will be the key factor.
 
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll probably take a scoop if creatine regardless just to make sure like you both said. I'm just going to keep my diet the same since I've been making good strength gains off of it and then adjust it if the added wrestling practices/matches are negatively effecting my strength
 
Looks solid, I'd just bump up the Betaine to 2.5-3g and Citrulline Malate to 6-8g.
 
Yea I mean l-citrulline. And I'll have to experiment between 2-3g for the betaine. I was also considering amp citrate. From my understanding it's similar to dmaa. I never had any bad experiences from that but I'm not sure about amp citrate since it's relatively new
 
If you can gain strength during wrestling season, I'd really love to hear how you did it. Your best bet is to maintain it. Short, light-ish gym sessions with only compound moves so as not to outpace your sleep ans nutrition plus the added stress of brutal practices. Don't lose weight too fast. Start losing weight now at about two pounds per week until you walk around sub 205 (before practice, not after). Don't do it like I did, all freshman year I was walking around at 187 wrestling 174. Can't really advise much on supps except that I wouldn't take creatine in season. Something about losing 4-6lbs water weight in two hours of practice daily really caused my body to rage against itself on creatine.
Volvo140G said:
There's a 197 lb weight class now?
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NCAA has 25, 33, 41, 49, 57, 65, 74, 84, 97, and HW is 285.
 
Jackedjack said:
For highschool no, at least in VA/MD. Classes are 106, 113, 120, 126, 132, 138, 145, 152, 160, 170, 182, 195, 220, HWT
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In WI in my days it was 103,112,119,125,130,135,140,145,152,160,171,189,275. 205 (maybe 215...) was added since I believe. I didn't wrestle in college and has been a huge regret as I've gotten older (I'm 30). I loved wrestling, was committed (maybe too much), and was damn good at it.... ::::sigh::::
 
herderdude said:
If you can gain strength during wrestling season, I'd really love to hear how you did it. Your best bet is to maintain it. Short, light-ish gym sessions with only compound moves so as not to outpace your sleep ans nutrition plus the added stress of brutal practices. Don't lose weight too fast. Start losing weight now at about two pounds per week until you walk around sub 205 (before practice, not after). Don't do it like I did, all freshman year I was walking around at 187 wrestling 174. Can't really advise much on supps except that I wouldn't take creatine in season. Something about losing 4-6lbs water weight in two hours of practice daily really caused my body to rage against itself on creatine.

NCAA has 25, 33, 41, 49, 57, 65, 74, 84, 97, and HW is 285.
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Damn.... that jump from 97 to a max of 285 seems harsh.... lotta diff body types in that range however
 
Volvo140G said:
In WI in my days it was 103,112,119,125,130,135,140,145,152,160,171,189,275. 205 (maybe 215...) was added since I believe. I didn't wrestle in college and has been a huge regret as I've gotten older (I'm 30). I loved wrestling, was committed (maybe too much), and was damn good at it.... ::::sigh::::
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Wrestling was my greatest joy, unfortunately I was runner up in state 3 years with my senior year ending in concussion. I was offered to wrestle at Ferrum college and Columbia, but I believed pursuing a career I medicine was of greater importance. Still questioning my decision every day
 
I've toyed with the idea of joining an MMA gym to do some grappling...

In WI we did lots of off season tournaments as well as freestyle/greco and sometimes they had 'old-timer' brackets. That would be fun as hell!
 
Volvo140G said:
I've toyed with the idea of joining an MMA gym to do some grappling... In WI we did lots of off season tournaments as well as freestyle/greco and sometimes they had 'old-timer' brackets. That would be fun as hell!
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Did you ever go to Fargo? Best tourney of the year! And I wish they had old timer brackets, I would definitely join in.
 
Volvo140G said:
Damn.... that jump from 97 to a max of 285 seems harsh.... lotta diff body types in that range however
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A lot of the best heavyweights in the NCAA year after year roll up on campus thinking they're going to wrestle 197 with a big cut, only to be redshirted and locked in the weight room and ice cream truck to transform into 230-240lbs of human meat grinder. Guys like Kurt Angle and Tommy Rowlands come to mind.
 
Up the dose of betaine.

I'd drop the creatine if trying to lose water weight (depending, I know some bloat on it and others dont seem to).

Good basic stack there, just eat right to get down in weight and keep training hard. That'll definitely do for a solid performance enhancing stack to help you maintain and build strength and stamina while cutting.
 
Jackedjack said:
Did you ever go to Fargo? Best tourney of the year! And I wish they had old timer brackets, I would definitely join in.
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NO! I couldn't make it, that was 12 years ago so why I couldn't go escapes me. I did qualify for greco - would have been exciting! How'd u fair?
 
herderdude said:
A lot of the best heavyweights in the NCAA year after year roll up on campus thinking they're going to wrestle 197 with a big cut, only to be redshirted and locked in the weight room and ice cream truck to transform into 230-240lbs of human meat grinder. Guys like Kurt Angle and Tommy Rowlands come to mind.
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I can see that for sure! I'm 240 now and there's no way in hell I could get near 197!
 
Volvo140G said:
NO! I couldn't make it, that was 12 years ago so why I couldn't go escapes me. I did qualify for greco - would have been exciting! How'd u fair?
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For freestyle I lost my match to place junior year to Brandon Kingsley, who now wrestles for Minnesota. I never got into Greco
 
SwolenONE said:
Up the dose of betaine. I'd drop the creatine if trying to lose water weight (depending, I know some bloat on it and others dont seem to). Good basic stack there, just eat right to get down in weight and keep training hard. That'll definitely do for a solid performance enhancing stack to help you maintain and build strength and stamina while cutting.
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yea from what everyone else is saying I'm thinking 2-3g preworkout. Would betaine still work for strength if just taken preworkout like 3 days a week? Everything I read in it says to dose it daily
 
Good luck with the season, man! Practice started this week?
 
700 mg of caffeine preworkout?

Watch those diuretics.
 
Jackedjack said:
Did you ever go to Fargo? Best tourney of the year! And I wish they had old timer brackets, I would definitely join in.
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gotta love wrestling. I wrestled all hs but had no time in college :( Sounds like we have some real studs in here. I should help out at my hs I teach at but the coach is like 20 and he is a product of the school (they're horrible) and he just rubs me the wrong way lol. I'll go in and roll around from time to time though.
 
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