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Why isn't 1-AD more popular in the uk?

Old Witch

Old Witch

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1-Androstenediol is still legal there, in fact I found some online but have no friend to ship it to me. We can get Fusion 1-Test products from UK all the time from a former board sponsor, but why are the anabolic edge and anabolic pharmaceuticals 1AD and m1t not more common?

Also, do I have any friends in the UK here? ;)
 
I always wondered the same thing myself as well as the 4-Androstenediol. Like you would think tons of UK companies would pump out clones but only androtest is actual 4-ad and yes anabolic pharmaceuticals does actually make 1-AD.. now if it is actually 1-AD in the caps is beyond me but I have no reason to believe they would fake it.
 
Cause you guys can get much better stuff than 1 and 4ad there. Why even waste your time with that crap when you still have epi, superdrol, tren, etc.
 
jrock645 said:
Cause you guys can get much better stuff than 1 and 4ad there. Why even waste your time with that crap when you still have epi, superdrol, tren, etc.
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1 AD was never crap... I put on a lot of weight with that stuff back in the day. That's why I wonder why it's not popular. It's easily as good as Superdrol for strength and hardness, even better in fact, because you can run it for months and months and keep your gains when you come off.
 
Old Witch said:
It's easily as good as Superdrol for strength and hardness, even better in fact, because you can run it for months and months and keep your gains when you come off.
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No idea about SD comparison, but I strongly don't recomend anybody run it "for months and months". 1AD is liver toxic, similiar to anavar in my experience and it affects your lipids. So run it as any other oral...
 
jrock645 said:
Cause you guys can get much better stuff than 1 and 4ad there. Why even waste your time with that crap when you still have epi, superdrol, tren, etc.
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Taking with a local supp shop owner who stocked a brand who made a superdrol product, apparently companies are starting to stop production of them
 
Jinsun said:
No idea about SD comparison, but I strongly don't recomend anybody run it "for months and months". 1AD is liver toxic, similiar to anavar in my experience and it affects your lipids. So run it as any other oral...
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Run it as any non methyl or SARM. 12 weeks or more.
 
Old Witch said:
Run it as any non methyl or SARM. 12 weeks or more.
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Well I guess this all comes down to your personal health standards. I would run it the same as var or tbol. 6 weeks at a normal dose or max 8 at a lower dose. It's a shame that 1AD costs so much and it's a bigger shame that it's injectable version is not produced anymore by the major UGLs as that is one of the best injectables imo. DHT and not a 19nor but strong as one...
 
Jinsun said:
Well I guess this all comes down to your personal health standards. I would run it the same as var or tbol. 6 weeks at a normal dose or max 8 at a lower dose. It's a shame that 1AD costs so much and it's a bigger shame that it's injectable version is not produced anymore by the major UGLs as that is one of the best injectables imo. DHT and not a 19nor but strong as one...
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i don't know why you would be so careful with a product less toxic than 1-DHEA.
 
The injectable version 1-T cyp is still made by all the best ugls. Two of three of my sources carry it. However I want some good old fashioned 100mg 1-AD tabs from the uk.
 
Old Witch said:
1 AD was never crap... I put on a lot of weight with that stuff back in the day. That's why I wonder why it's not popular. It's easily as good as Superdrol for strength and hardness, even better in fact, because you can run it for months and months and keep your gains when you come off.
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I think I put on a solid 20lbs when that came out...either 6 or 8 weeks cant remember. But that's as much as I've ever put on with any ds/ph. Agreed witch man!
 
Old Witch said:
The injectable version 1-T cyp is still made by all the best ugls. Two of three of my sources carry it. However I want some good old fashioned 100mg 1-AD tabs from the uk.
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Anabolic pharmaceuticals bro.. there tablets not capsules of 1-Androstenediol 100mg
 
bradleyt1 said:
Anabolic pharmaceuticals bro.. there tablets not capsules of 1-Androstenediol 100mg
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Out of stock, but yes that's one brand I found. Anabolic edge, advanced Pharma, extreme Pharma, all make uk OTC 1AD supps. All shipped only to UK except the out of stock one.

That's why I need a friend.
 
Old Witch said:
The injectable version 1-T cyp is still made by all the best ugls. Two of three of my sources carry it. However I want some good old fashioned 100mg 1-AD tabs from the uk.
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Just had a look and saw that DP is finally making it again! Just don't see it avaliable to order in Europe yet...
 
With all this 1ad talk we really just need PA to bring out the next groundbreaking under the radar compound. That dude has an insanely brilliant brain for this - gotta believe he could pump out a lot more if he wanted to
 
Old Witch said:
Nostalgia, mostly. I want to see if it still works like it used to. I already ordered some UK m1T 20mg PER TABLET :O
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I have the pred one in a drawer for next year but that reckons it’s 75mg a ml (and I was planning to run at 2ml a day)......I have heard very good things about it stacked with nanodrol....
 
Whisky said:
I have the pred one in a drawer for next year but that reckons it’s 75mg a ml (and I was planning to run at 2ml a day)......I have heard very good things about it stacked with nanodrol....
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I bet that would be good.
 
Old Witch said:
Out of stock, but yes that's one brand I found. Anabolic edge, advanced Pharma, extreme Pharma, all make uk OTC 1AD supps. All shipped only to UK except the out of stock one.

That's why I need a friend.
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Yeah my only thing with all those companies is I would be to scared to try any of the tablets in fear of what’s really in there. Because they all semi like shady UGL equivalents where say like predator nutrition is very legit
 
bradleyt1 said:
Yeah my only thing with all those companies is I would be to scared to try any of the tablets in fear of what’s really in there. Because they all semi like shady UGL equivalents where say like predator nutrition is very legit
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To be honest they don't look any more or less shady than Fusion or MedFit, to me. Those few brands not only make 1ad, but m1t, epistane, halodrol... It's like the year 2003 just came back.
 
bigbeaph said:
With all this 1ad talk we really just need PA to bring out the next groundbreaking under the radar compound. That dude has an insanely brilliant brain for this - gotta believe he could pump out a lot more if he wanted to
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He’s also got a huge target on his back and already went to jail once.
 
Old Witch said:
To be honest they don't look any more or less shady than Fusion or MedFit, to me. Those few brands not only make 1ad, but m1t, epistane, halodrol... It's like the year 2003 just came back.
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This thread sent me down a rabbit hole and I think I found some of the places your speaking of....really want some m1t....what are the chances these old ds get stopped at customs?...shouldnt be too risky coming from UK right?
 
bigbeaph said:
This thread sent me down a rabbit hole and I think I found some of the places your speaking of....really want some m1t....what are the chances these old ds get stopped at customs?...shouldnt be too risky coming from UK right?
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Very very very low chance. If it looks like legit supplements with labels and catchy graphics they have never taken anything from me like that. Only if they look like a white bottle and black lettering, generic AAS lab stuff, do they seem to notice anything and even then it makes it most of the time.

Remember a handful of supplements out there in the us also have the same names even though they're not that.
 
So, I'm also going to try that stack called Iron Dragon at some point. Trying to justify finishing a cycle with it. Halo and Epi stacked. Seems like that would cut a guy up good.
 
Old Witch said:
And, yeah, the urge to stack m1t with Superdrol 1:1 is very strong right now.
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That's exactly where my head is. What would you dose it? 10mg each would be pretty stellar I bet. Be crazy how much you could grow off 140mg of gear pw lol
 
bigbeaph said:
That's exactly where my head is. What would you dose it? 10mg each would be pretty stellar I bet. Be crazy how much you could grow off 140mg of gear pw lol
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Yeah, I think 10mg each would be all most guys should ever need. Any more and I think the liver would just up and quit hahahahaha
 
Hyde said:
It will, as long as diet accommodates.
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Cutting with PEDs shouldn't be too hard for me these days, diet-wise. I can fast for days if I need. Could cut all the way down to 1500 calories drinking my meals and eating salad if I really want. But that isn't maintainable, either.
 
Jinsun said:
SD and M1T oh boy... flush the tablets down with some whisky why don't ya :D
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Again, it’s in the dosage! Superdrol is often run 20-30mg, sometimes 40 even by crazies. M1T is usually run 10-25mg, and I have never heard of anyone tolerating 40mg ever. So from this we can see that mg for mg, M1T is harsher.

So taking 10mg each of M1T and Superdrol would actually be SAFER on the liver than a standard 20mg M1T cycle of the same length, with less aromatization (less risk of gyno, less bloat, less impact on bp, less impact to libido, less need for AI which is guaranteed to further impact lipids).

I did laugh at your joke though
 
Hyde said:
I did laugh at your joke though
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And only a joke it was :)

Why do you think combining the two is safer then a normal dose of either one? I get that mg per mg sd is less hepatotoxic but that still doesn't necessarily mean that low dosages of both are safer. It just might be that the combo act's harsher, that they both need different enzymes and thus produce more bile? I don't know, pharmacokinetics is a complicated topic. 1+1 can mean 3 or 4 and not 2...
 
Jinsun said:
And only a joke it was :)

Why do you think combining the two is safer then a normal dose of either one? I get that mg per mg sd is less hepatotoxic but that still doesn't necessarily mean that low dosages of both are safer. It just might be that the combo act's harsher, that they both need different enzymes and thus produce more bile? I don't know, pharmacokinetics is a complicated topic. 1+1 can mean 3 or 4 and not 2...
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Because that’s not how hepatoxicity from aas works. I just explained it as simply as it gets.

1+1=3 is in reference to gains. And yes mixing some compounds increases potential for sides like gyno (mixing compounds that convert to estrogen with compounds that increase prolactin production), but on a practical level it is almost always lower side effect to stack 2 compounds over a higher dosage of one.
 
Hyde said:
Because that’s not how hepatoxicity from aas works. I just explained it as simply as it gets.

1+1=3 is in reference to gains. And yes mixing some compounds increases potential for sides like gyno (mixing compounds that convert to estrogen with compounds that increase prolactin production), but on a practical level it is almost always lower side effect to stack 2 compounds over a higher dosage of one.
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Ok... I literary have no idea how this works so can't really comment further :)
 
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