What should my starter cycle be
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Trypan0.
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For sure I just get ahead of myself a lot I already wanna hop onHonestly, it should be get consistent in the gym, before starting a cycle.
Renew1
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For sure I just get ahead of myself a lot I already wanna hop on
Almost Everybody does.
Honestly, I think it was better when things were a little harder to acquire.
.... And the most usual place to acquire them was in a gym, after you got to know people.
But the Best news is ....
There are world class athletes on this site. And they are more than happy to share information on how to best achieve a great physique/condition.
If I were you, I would ask the guys some questions (and ask for advice) in regards to training and nutrition.
There's some really good guys on this site.
Trypan0.
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Need to get upper body bigger so my frame looks better yk I look like a skinny person always no matter how many pull ups or push ups I do so the gym will hopefully change that . But yeah I guess I wanna get “yoked”
Trypan0.
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Best foods for muscle growth?
HTGduck
Active member
Anything with calories. At the end of the day you need a caloric surplus and protein.
Smont
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5 foot 10 145 lb, let's assume you're going to train 4 days a week, lets assume you're going to do 2 total hours of cardio per week, let's also assume you have a fairly sedentary job but not confined to a chair all day.
Start about 2500 calories per day, aim for 160-180gm of protein, aim for 60-80gm of fat and get the rest of your calories from carbohydrates. Over the course about 6 weeks I would tell you to work your way up to 3000 calories and maintain that calorie count for another 6 weeks.
This is the amount of calories you need to consume every day, roughly, I mean I'm doing this with very little personal information here but it's a good starting plan. Let's say on Monday you screwed up and only ate 2,000 calories your first week, you still need to eat those calories so it looks like tomorrow you have to eat an extra 500, just giving you an example of not just your daily calories matter but your weekly calories also matter. The person who misses 3 meals a week doesn't think it's a big deal, but those 3 meals might equal 2500 calories which means you missed an entire day of eating. And being 145 lb at 5 ft 10 don't be afraid to have cheat meals where you decide to go out for burgers or eat pizza or whatever it may be and go over your calorie count just don't go crazy with it and do it all the time. I don't see any problem with picking one day a week where you stuff your face with anything you want, just remember that with you stuff your face all day on Sunday and then you're not hungry and don't get your calories in on Monday, well, you kind of defeated the purpose of that cheat.
Doing something like this, training with progressive overload and beating the log book each week over the course or 16-20 weeks should put a good 20+lbs on you and dramatically improve your strength. And while strength may not be a direct driver of muscle growth, you need to at least be strong enough to use a good amount of weight and a good amount of volume. If you can only bench 135 lb for 10 reps and you can build your bench up to 235 lb for 10 reps you're going to be a significantly larger stronger person.
Protein sources .....
Meat, eggs, cottage cheese, Greek yogurt, protein powders and bars in a pinch.
Carbs.....
White Rice, all potatoes, pasta, sour dough and rye breads, fruit and vegetables.
Fats .......
Most of your fat is probably going to be from your meat sources and if you need to get more fat to hit your goals use things like olive oil and avocado oil, avocado, nuts, fish oils ect
Start about 2500 calories per day, aim for 160-180gm of protein, aim for 60-80gm of fat and get the rest of your calories from carbohydrates. Over the course about 6 weeks I would tell you to work your way up to 3000 calories and maintain that calorie count for another 6 weeks.
This is the amount of calories you need to consume every day, roughly, I mean I'm doing this with very little personal information here but it's a good starting plan. Let's say on Monday you screwed up and only ate 2,000 calories your first week, you still need to eat those calories so it looks like tomorrow you have to eat an extra 500, just giving you an example of not just your daily calories matter but your weekly calories also matter. The person who misses 3 meals a week doesn't think it's a big deal, but those 3 meals might equal 2500 calories which means you missed an entire day of eating. And being 145 lb at 5 ft 10 don't be afraid to have cheat meals where you decide to go out for burgers or eat pizza or whatever it may be and go over your calorie count just don't go crazy with it and do it all the time. I don't see any problem with picking one day a week where you stuff your face with anything you want, just remember that with you stuff your face all day on Sunday and then you're not hungry and don't get your calories in on Monday, well, you kind of defeated the purpose of that cheat.
Doing something like this, training with progressive overload and beating the log book each week over the course or 16-20 weeks should put a good 20+lbs on you and dramatically improve your strength. And while strength may not be a direct driver of muscle growth, you need to at least be strong enough to use a good amount of weight and a good amount of volume. If you can only bench 135 lb for 10 reps and you can build your bench up to 235 lb for 10 reps you're going to be a significantly larger stronger person.
Protein sources .....
Meat, eggs, cottage cheese, Greek yogurt, protein powders and bars in a pinch.
Carbs.....
White Rice, all potatoes, pasta, sour dough and rye breads, fruit and vegetables.
Fats .......
Most of your fat is probably going to be from your meat sources and if you need to get more fat to hit your goals use things like olive oil and avocado oil, avocado, nuts, fish oils ect
botk1161
Well-known member
Steroids won't make you bigger if you can't get eat enough to get bigger.
I think you should get yourself up at least 25lbs using food before you even consider steroids.
Without the basics in place (nutrition, quality sleep, low stress), your wasting your time.
So far we nutrition needs allot of work.
I think you should get yourself up at least 25lbs using food before you even consider steroids.
Without the basics in place (nutrition, quality sleep, low stress), your wasting your time.
So far we nutrition needs allot of work.
Trypan0.
New member
Okay nice this is very helpful . Fat face here we come lol I will keep you guys updated
Resolve10
Member
Kinds of questions like this, your training status, and your age mean you definitely don't need to be looking anabolics.
Also, don't jump too far ahead and get stuck like so many people worrying about all sorts of random advanced topics when you don't even know the bare minimum basics.
Eat in an appropriate surplus, get an appropriate amount of protein, get an appropriate baseline amount of fats, get at least enough carbs based on activity level then fill in the rest of your caloric needs with fats and carbs based on preference to get to that appropriate surplus. Don't over complicate it.
Smont
Legend
Internet and social media has done this, It's crazy how many people plan there first cycle before they even have a gym membership. I think I had been working out for 12 years before I ran my first cycle.
I had a guy DM me for cycle advice and he's working out at home with bands and 25lb dumbbell.
I told him he should get a bike and cycle to the gym
Trypan0.
New member
Its probably gonna get worse as the years go by might as well be big before anyone else does . Btw only gym close to me is like 20/30 mins away i live in the countryside and there aint nothing out here but the gyms in the city. So my number on priority is getting that membershipInternet and social media has done this, It's crazy how many people plan there first cycle before they even have a gym membership. I think I had been working out for 12 years before I ran my first cycle.
I had a guy DM me for cycle advice and he's working out at home with bands and 25lb dumbbell.
I told him he should get a bike and cycle to the gym
Smont
Legend
The problem is most people will never get big doing it that way, you end up using it like a crutch and that's why every gym is full of 150 lb guys on test and tren. You don't have to believe me but I've seen it go on my entire life and I'm 41. You can take that for whatever it's worth you or ignore it
Trypan0.
New member
So what your saying is once i start going consistanly and getting my hours and watching what i eat then is when the steroids will work best ?