LeftCoast009
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Read about a guy who only took Clomid three times a week for four weeks to help recovery and gains. He was saying how the Clomid increased his test. Thoughts?
What if you Only ran a PCT?
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LeftCoast009
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Nac
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I guess Im trying to say that it is fairly well documented and known that dosing clomid can increase test levels in most males, and much of this documentation involves men who are not PCTing but have chronically low test levels due to secondary hypogonadism.
So Im not sure what youre asking? When you say "PCT alone", I assume you mean using clomid to increase test without having just done a cycle of hormonals/PEDs?
LeftCoast009
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Sorry, I guess I could have posed the question better. Basically, rather than doing a full cycle of adding test and PH/SARM then having to go through a PCT I was curious if just doing the estrogen blocker and AI can lead to muscle increase and fat loss? Would you need to do something after that to fix your estrogen levels?
Renew1
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Not trying to derail....what is "AR"?
LeftCoast009
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Meant SARM/PH. Was just thinking anything that targets an Androgen Receptor. I'm such a newb.
Renew1
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As you came off of the SERM, you would maybe want to taper down off of a small AI dosage, so no rebound occurs.
You'd definitely want to have the AI on hand, either way...just in case.
DennisC1986
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I think I get what you're asking. Like these guys said,
if your natural testosterone production is compromised or even if you're "normal" (what's normal level is different for each man) then clomid would increase your test for a while while on it. Pretty sure it will just return to your "normal" after you come off. As far as like, gains go? I guess if your natural test is always low, you might see some benefit. But I can't imagine it being comparable to any kind of real anabolic. Just my two cents. And to be clear, we knew what you meant, but it's not pct if there's no cycle. It's just taking clomid or clomid therapy
if your natural testosterone production is compromised or even if you're "normal" (what's normal level is different for each man) then clomid would increase your test for a while while on it. Pretty sure it will just return to your "normal" after you come off. As far as like, gains go? I guess if your natural test is always low, you might see some benefit. But I can't imagine it being comparable to any kind of real anabolic. Just my two cents. And to be clear, we knew what you meant, but it's not pct if there's no cycle. It's just taking clomid or clomid therapy
LeftCoast009
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Thanks
Renew1
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Dennis, I saw someone talking about getting their Test levels up pretty (decently) high, the past couple days...but I can't remember who it was right now.
I'll post it here later when (if) I remember who it was.
Renew1
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Some Drs will even try a SERM before putting you on traditional TRT.
Renew1
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Hey brother, if you're interested....go to the search feature on this site, and put in "Clomid Only Cycle", and click the box "check all" (or whatever it is), and search. Some pretty interesting stuff comes up.
All of it doesn't apply to your situation, but it contains a lot of good info, and opinions.
LeftCoast009
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Would a SERM work better than an OTC T booster?
LeftCoast009
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Will do, thanks.
Renew1
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That's debatable. They actually discuss that a little bit in one of the posts under the search heading that I mentioned.
That also might not be a bad Heading/question for a new thread here on this site if you're ever interested.
So many knowledgable guys here, it's just crazy. There are bodybuilding pros, chemists, guys who own their own supplement companies...and just guys like me who have been doing this stuff for a long time.
Renew1
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I used to run Revolution PCT Black, and Arimistane sometimes when I wasn't PCTing, just to "tighten up" a bit.