I'd say the best available winny-type ph these days is Juggernaut Nutrition's WinZtrol. I've used it in two different cutting cycles with good results. As for Tren, the only one I ever used was Mega TRN by Generic Labz, but good luck finding that. Again, Juggernaut makes what is supposed to be a good clone (don't know personally...yet, but figure on finding out around mid-summer). :head:
Now bear in mind, these aren't clones of the actual steroid. They're designed with the intent of mimicking the effects of the real thing, and a lot of them work extremely well (and pct is 100% required with all) but they're not clones of the real thing.