Tren precursor is out...

[Jedi Master]

Does anyone know how this works?? IT says it has a 2 step conversion method..WTF? anyways go to http://www.supplementdirect.com/?content=70&brand_id=884.

Its callled FinagenX or something. Any info guys?

 

[destro19]

http://www.nutribodies.com/supplements/2880015.htm
SUPPLEMENT FACTS:
Serving Size: 6 ml Amount Per Serving
% Daily Value

Calories
9
0%
Total Carbohydrates 0 g
0%
Fat 0 g
0%
Saturated Fat 0 g 0%
19-Norandrosta-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione 25 mg **


** Daily Value not Established

Other Ingredients: Water, Glycerin, Propylene Glycol, Emulsifiers, Phospholipids, Aspartame, Natural Flavors, Artificial Colors, Potassium Sorbate, Sodium Benzoate.

 

[Jedi Master]

thx but i was looking to see if anyone actually thinks this will really convert to tren.

 

[HUGE]

There is more info in the pdf - not sure it really answers teh question of if it acuallty converts.

http://www.nutribodies.com/finigenx_tech_sheet.pdf

 

Also, didn't Bruce Kneller say he had a patent on the tren precursor?

 

 

 

[bigswole30]

Bruce Kneller does have the patent I believe. I know the man behind Pharnagenx, Brian Rubach, is a super smart chemist. This is the same product VPX was supposed to come out with Paradrol, but never made it to the market. Brian was with VPX at the time, but VPX did not have a good source for the raws.

 

[windwords7]

I doubt this is legit....

 

[wojo]

why not just get the real ****..screw the precursor..get ur cows the real deal

 

[tatortodd]

IF this precursor is legit, I can think of one good reason for a tren precursor - drug testing.

According to drug clearance times thread that yellowjacket posted (RayBravo original author), fina is 5 months. IF for some reason you were subjected to more than just the normal recreational drug testing (assuming you're not an athlete and precursors are banned by your governing body) then a having some precursor lying around might save you.

~Todd

 

[jetrob]

Is this not just 1,4 ad? in a diol form?

 

[bigswole30]

Is this not just 1,4 ad? in a diol form?

No. Look at it closer.

 

[wojo]

this is rediculous r u guys fiending so much for a new roid that u will takee this underdosed precursor..its only 6ml's =25mgs!!!! real tren isnt potent enough to do jact even at that much less a underdosed precursor

 

[Chemo]

They must have busted their asses finding a chemical base to supply the raw material in good purity...

This compound should be interesting

Chemo

 

[sicosico]

Warning: Finagenx is a lie!

check this thread in bb.com patrick arnold says it can not convert !

 

[d piece]

PA said that it is missing a double bond that your body can not put on, it must be put on in a chemical reaction. He said that IT does convert to a tren variant that is much less powerful than tren, but it wont convert to tren itself.

Honestly why get a piece of crap like this when you can make a transdermal tren from pellets?

 

[windwords7]

That's what I was saying earlier, its not whats its touted to be....

 

[Cogar]

PA said that it is missing a double bond that your body can not put on, it must be put on in a chemical reaction. He said that IT does convert to a tren variant that is much less powerful than tren, but it wont convert to tren itself.

PA is more than a little biased in this issue, although the points he made (in between rants and flames) do seem valid.

 

[phil216]

Chemo:


Is it worth a try and if so would you need like 30 ml per day?


thanks

 

[bigpetefox]

Originally posted by jetrob
Is this not just 1,4 ad? in a diol form?

Trenbolone is a 19-nor hormone, similar to nandrolone... The ingredients say 19-Norandrosta-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione 25 mg...

It's crap anyway, cows need pellets!

 

 

[legalgear.com]

This compound doesn not convert to Tren, but that doesn't make it worthless. If you know anything about steroid chemistry, Tren nicknamed such because of the triene (3 double bonds). This compound is a diene (like 1,4 andro) except that the bonds are at the 4th and 9th position instead of 1 and 4. Again, this doesn't make it a bad compound, just not at all a Tren precursor. There is no enzyme that converts a diene into a triene, so you can forget that arguement. So what you have is a "sort of" tren like precursor or a "compound a little like tren" precursor.


EDog

 

[John Benz]

....So what you have is a "sort of" tren like precursor or a "compound a little like tren" precursor.


EDog

Like a woman being"sort of&quot pregnant? Either it is or it aint!

 

[legalgear.com]

Well, it ain't! That's the bottom line, but it might have some "Tren Like" atributes.

 

[bigswole30]

Here is a post for the chemist who formulates this product. Take it for what it's worth. I have 480cc's they gave me for free to post results at bb.com. They also sent me 240cc's of Ventilean and NitrogenX. These products are great so far.

Chad,
thanks for forwarding this. Let me explain the evolution of this product.
In February of this year I engaged my chemist is china to secure me the
starting material wcich they make trenbolone from. The replied with the
Esta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione ,molecule. This molecule is literally the
starting material for trenbolone and is two quick easy steps away. The only
reason trenbolone is made is to make this base molecule more bioactive,the
double bond and the alcohol addition make this base molecuel more effective.
Esta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione is still very bioactive in its self and will bind
to the same receptor cites as Trenbolone. The conversion is only a very
minor minor minor minor part of its activity. This product is very
effective, we are skating the FDA for now, it is classified as a hormone
just like trenbolone, it will be banned eventually, but it this is not a
"Prohormone" it does not convert to your bodies hormones. This is a
prosteroid, your body will use this molecule just like it uses steroids.

Thanks
Brian Rubach

 

[legalgear.com]

Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. My description is far more accurate. I hate to call foul, but FOUL!!! I am not saying that it isn't a prohormone to something, but not Tren. It is DEFINITELY NOT a prosteroid. Diones of any type do not bind to the androgen receptor. The liver actually deactivates the parent back into the dione to deactivate it!

EDog

 

[bigpetefox]

Indeed, but still the idea of having a half-way prosteroid doesn't sit well with me, and shouldn't to those who wanna spend on it..

How about a cycle of "almost"4-Hydroxytest?

 

[Chemo]

What's the difference between testosterone and 1-test? It is the double bond placement (4-ene in test and 1-ene in 1-T) that makes all the difference in activity and receptor affinity. So, in the case of this "tren precursor" the MISSING double bond completely changes the affinity and MAY OR MAY NOT mimick the activity of tren. I am inclined to say that it will not present the same as tren but that is my gut instinct.

Remember bros: something as small as a double bond placement drastically changes the action of the compound. Once again, compare the differences between testosterone and 1-test.

Chemo

 

[nsruffryder34]

This compund definetly does have some promising qualities. It definetly is not a tren precursor. They do use it to manufacture tren, but manufacturing tren from this in a lab and putting this in your body are two entirely different things. On paper it looks like a weaker compund similar to tren. We will have to see.

 

[bigswole30]

I'll let you all know if it works or not.