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dkscorpion13

dkscorpion13

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Hello, This my first forum post so bear with me.
I started taking Tren(50mg ed) and Test(25mg ed) for contest prep. About 3 weeks I dropped the tren to about 40mg and test to 20mg ed because I could not control my appetite. Tren made me incredibly hungry and i just coudn't stick with my diet. However, after lowering the tren, I started to hold a lot of water. After about 4.5 weeks, I dropped the tren completely because i thought it was the culprit for my bloat. I kept test at 25 mg until about 2 weeks ago then stopped that thinking it was the problem.
I didnt run an AI because i thought tren didnt cause any estro problems? I ran caber about 3 weeks in but no effect was seen. I took an insanely amount of letro and exemestane 4 weeks into the cycle but I think it was too late. I got my testosterone and estrogen levels checked the day after I started pct,(Nolva,Clomid, daa, tribulus). My estro was 70pg/ml( Dr said this was normal) and test was 70.87(day 2 of pct).
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First pic: week 3 (lowered tren to 40mg ed/test 20mged)
2nd pic: week 4(tren 35mg ed/test 20mg ed)
3rd pic: week 5 (test 20mg ed) I was tested at 6.12% bodyfat via hydrostatic weighing

I bailed on the show because I just coudnt get rid of the water no matter what i took or did; it just came back. Its been 2 weeks into pct and im still holding water. Any ideas what happened? Trying to figure out when this bloat will dissapate. I got progesterone, kidney, liver, aldosterone, and thyroid levels checked today so Ill know those next week.
Thanks in advance for your help.
 
I was under the impression cometitors used an ai increasingly to the show while lowering test.
 
I believe you're right Stankyleg. I guess it would also depend on what compounds are being used, their aromatization factor, and dosage. For me, I didnt use them because I would get the most unimaginable muscle cramps, dry bloodshot eyes, and 2nd, I would dry out naturally by stopping everything 10 days out except dht derivatives.
 
stankyleg said:
I was under the impression cometitors used an ai increasingly to the show while lowering test.
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This. I drop test to 50mg Ed leading to show, Tren and mast high. AIs go up and I dry out with water and sodium control. Lasix the night before if I need too.
 
Thanks Danger Dave. I posted this thread on another forum and we came to the conclusion that the high sodium in my diet along with high estrogen kept me bloated. I abused letro and my estro crashed to almost 0. Supposedly the sides of low estro mimic that of high estro including water retention. Seems like tren was actually keeping water at bay until I started lowering its dose. Then the water retention became more prominent as i dropped compounds.
 
Yep everything you said is spot on. Sodium is the culprit 90% of the time. Your body monitors your water retention by the minute as soon as aldosterone levels adjust so does your bodies water levels. You throw in gear and too many guys mess it up. I diet on very high sodium and bring it down during my peak to normal levels. At that point water goes up and I flush quick. I find a little letro at the start of peak week and Adex as needed is best. Lasix is my emergency go to if I'm holding that film of water or if I feel good and want to pull juuuust a little more but it's risky because if you cramp your done for
 
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