true..i keep thinking maybe i will get something else out of it combined with my trt but nothing yet since on it since the 2nd week of august
Any mood boost/ extra energy at all?
no change in mood or energy on 3-ad. best transdermal for mood/energy was just regular oral dhea or transdermal pregnenolone in salvo for me
Got it, thanks for the feedback!
I Honestly think I'f the person managing my hrt was even suggesting oral test, I would find a new DR.
I was thinking of telling him, I might try standalone 11kt after stopping androgel for a week and repeating the total test number to see of it was a true number. Honestly I was thinking of trying jatenzo or kyzatrex at the last appointment anyway 3 months ago.
mid 600's on 3 pumps, then 3 months ago i went up to 4 pumps, some days i overlapped the salvo transdermal on top of the androgel a few hours later, not sure it that added extra penetration properties to the androgel application sites and increased absorption of the testosterone. i do not notice any subjective difference in strength/fullness/ or libido between then and now.
he wanted to start on transdermal or oral potentially to preserve my fertility. he did mention about hcg and clomid if an when the time comes(even though i am in my mid 40's with no kids, i have a varicocele and hydrocele and my 1 testicle is basically the size of a peanut, over the years my other "good" testicle has decreased in size on follow up ultrasounds since i was 12 years old, my good testicle is almost half the size it was since 12, i probably am part to blame with all the crap i have taken in my life). the new version of oral testosterone undecanoate that came out(kyzatrex) has a different delivery system now that is lymphatically absorbed. i think most people get in the low to mid 400ng/dl range in the midrange dosing from the studies i read and decreased chance of elevated hematocrit compared to injections. i was kind of surprised that androgel raised my hematocrit level that high.
I'm astounded that gel even with the KT as is increasing hematocrit.
evel the gel alone last time increased me to around the same numbers for hemoglobin/hematocrit. weird because straight 17a methyl DHT did not change my numbers years ago but i was much younger at the time. i know at one time they had a transdermal dht gel in the works for male hormone replacement at some phase of trials.
How do you like the androgel? I know someone else who switched from IM shots to adrogel and they are also around 900. They love it.
I am suprised, I was kind of against the idea of androgel when my urologist mentioned he wanted to start me on that. It did restore my libido and I am regaining some muscle that I lost over the past several years. I would say a small but noticable effect on body composition. More so noticable to me and not others at this point and how my pants and shirts fit. I would say a drawback is in the summer when I am outdoors and sweating all day on my days off from work. Sometimes that will entail me going 36 hours before reapplication of androgel. I am getting a sleep study done in 2 weeks for underlying sleep apnea because I have testosterone induced erythrocytosis and am symptomatic with headaches now hgb is up to 18.6 now
...it only burns for 30 seconds
How was the 3ad cycle?Well.......ran it for 6 weeks.
100mg first week. Then did 150mg for the following 5 weeks.
42 year old, never used peds or trt
Have extremely bad depression and used to be anorexic when a teen. Bodybuilding/MMA saved me and I have gained a ton of size since I started.
Have fibromyalgia and a chiari malformation so a lot of chronic pain and lack of appetite so it's hard to really hit macros on some days. I feel like I could of had a better run if I wasn't coming off a pinched nerve and taking it easy last 4 months.
Going to run it back in a few weeks and up the dose. Might add Epi or 1 Andro to the cycle next time. Thoughts?
Going to jump on trt in the next few years.
Have a appointment next week for labs, so I will add them.
First 2 shots are before.
Next few are after. I have never been so vascular in my shoulders, my abs were tighter and leaner even though I was eating like a monster when I could. I even went shirtless for Halloween
Shout out to 3ADPro for fast shipping.
best place i found for absorption of androgel is the clavicle and neck region even though it is not recommended by the drug company , every day at least 1 pump is spread around that site. i also do the standard upper arm and shoulder area. i rotate application sites to inner thigh areas also. aparrently there is decreased and/or delayed absorption if you use abdominal sites based off a study or two. i dont recommend using the taint for an application site. but i did it for science for you guys
Have not. I am thinking of jumping on trt in the next year or two.
If it were me I'd probably does it this way to get it in your system at both AM and PM equal dosage.
Yeah good call. Just not sure of the half life so it may or may not matter.
I think it's probably best run in a stack. I used transdermal and definitely never experienced any form of shut down. I had the opposite basically, morning wood every morning.
Can second this. I've enjoyed it every time I've ran it, solo oral first time while cutting, stacked transdermal while cutting. Always consistent bump in pumps, recovery, sleep and mood/ focus. I've said before, it just makes the everyday so much easier.
