SHBG Help

The Stig

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Need some advice on how to reduce SHBG to gain increase my free testosterone. My labs are as follows:

Total Testosterone: 23.30 nmol/L (Range 5.80 - 28.00)
SHBG: 86 nmol/L (Range 13 - 71)
Free Testosterone: 27.1 (Range 14.8 - 94.8)

My total test is decent, but most of it is bound due to very high SHBG. I've tried a myriad of the typical supplements recommended to reduce SHBG without success. Since the time of these labs, my Dr. had me try androgel, which was a disaster and shut me completely down and drove my test into the ground. Since then I've recovered, but his recommendation of clomid long-term is not ideal in my estimation, as it has a reputation of raising SHBG. I'd like to try proviron, but I do not know if it's available here, or if he'd recommend it. I can get access unofficially to some testosterone enanthate. I'm contemplating pinning 300 mg per 7 days to see if I can elevate my test a little above conventional levels to see if I can offset the very elevated SHBG. Thoughts?
 
Are you on trt? Injections?

I think you should post this in the over 35 or anti aging medicine section, this section of the forum is geared more towards recreational anabolics use.
 
The Stig said:
Not on anything at the moment.
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So the doctor gave you androgel with perfect total T levels?
Lol

Man you dont need trt dont shut yourself down.

first of all, how do you feel? Maybe this is normal for ypu.

secondly, clomid raises shbg.

@The Matrix may give some input he always likes to discuss shbg and underlying mechanisms.
 
CroLifter said:
So the doctor gave you androgel with perfect total T levels?
Lol

Man you dont need trt dont shut yourself down.

first of all, how do you feel? Maybe this is normal for ypu.

secondly, clomid raises shbg.

@The Matrix may give some input he always likes to discuss shbg and underlying mechanisms.
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The elevated SHBG is causing multiple issues. I don't know why it's so high, as it never used to be. Other labs done don't point to the cause. I understand in theory what he intended with the androgel, but in my opinion, he prescribed the wrong method and dosage considering where the total T was already. I'd rather have at a minimum gone with injections, possibly in conjunction with HCG.
 
The Stig said:
Need some advice on how to reduce SHBG to gain increase my free testosterone. My labs are as follows:

Total Testosterone: 23.30 nmol/L (Range 5.80 - 28.00)
SHBG: 86 nmol/L (Range 13 - 71)
Free Testosterone: 27.1 (Range 14.8 - 94.8)

My total test is decent, but most of it is bound due to very high SHBG. I've tried a myriad of the typical supplements recommended to reduce SHBG without success. Since the time of these labs, my Dr. had me try androgel, which was a disaster and shut me completely down and drove my test into the ground. Since then I've recovered, but his recommendation of clomid long-term is not ideal in my estimation, as it has a reputation of raising SHBG. I'd like to try proviron, but I do not know if it's available here, or if he'd recommend it. I can get access unofficially to some testosterone enanthate. I'm contemplating pinning 300 mg per 7 days to see if I can elevate my test a little above conventional levels to see if I can offset the very elevated SHBG. Thoughts?
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He put you on Androgel?? Man.... I would be very careful about listening to his recommendations.

I personally wouldn't recommend pinning Test, as Test isn't your problem. Are you in the US?
 
Renew1 said:
He put you on Androgel?? Man.... I would be very careful about listening to his recommendations.

I personally wouldn't recommend pinning Test, as Test isn't your problem. Are you in the US?
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Canada. Our doctors suck. The "specialist" that shut me down went on vacation and all of the GP's I went to for help wouldn't assist me, even though I told them exactly what they could prescribe to get me going again. They don't have even a rudimentary knowledge of endocrinology.
 
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What issues are you experiencing?

whatever you do dont inject anything. You got good natural production going.
 
My guess is that you not feeling good has to do with you having been shut down and your body now bouncing back.

other than that, avoid keto. Higher carb diet may help lower shbg.

joint pain could be due to low e2 but i see you didnt test for that. Also, low e2 = anxiety, feelings of worry for me.
 
CroLifter said:
My guess is that you not feeling good has to do with you having been shut down and your body now bouncing back.

other than that, avoid keto. Higher carb diet may help lower shbg.

joint pain could be due to low e2 but i see you didnt test for that. Also, low e2 = anxiety, feelings of worry for me.
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These issues preceded shutdown, but got far worse during it. I thought about E2 as well, but it's in the middle of the range. With such high SHBG, I would have wondered about possible high E2. TSH isn't low or high either.
 
I have a feeling that something else is causing high shbg, rather than it being high for no reason and causing all these issues,

I remember hearing about inflammation within the body, gut flora...lots of things having impact on raising shbg.
 
CroLifter said:
I have a feeling that something else is causing high shbg, rather than it being high for no reason and causing all these issues,

I remember hearing about inflammation within the body, gut flora...lots of things having impact on raising shbg.
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I would certainly believe inflammation is involved, which would explain the sudden joint pain.
 
clomid can take weeks and sometimes months to work its magic though its not from lowering SHBG and frankly its better to lower your SHBG with an AI. try some anastrozole at a .5 mg per day and get blood work to see how you respond. furthermore if you are not in a super hurry a nice divinil product like testabolan from iforce will work wonders over the course of a few months.
 
No, don't take strong Ai's like anastrazole as you will lower your e2 to much (if it's as you say in the middle) and you wont lower shbg that much. You need something that lowers shbg a lot but doesn't touch E2 that much.

I would go for arimistane, secondly to proviron and thirdly aromasin. Arimistane is great at lowering shbg, hence why it's used, or rather was used, in a lot of test boosters. Just don't go over 75 - 100mg ed as your joints will hurt even more.

If you are concerned with joints just go for viron or aromasin... and don't use letro or arimidex (anastrazole) as they would lower e2 to much.

And no, definetly don't pin test and don't use clomid. Clomid is for raising TT and 300mg's test is a cycle. If you want to go on a cycle, which I am kinda sensing here a bit, then that's a nother discussions altogether...
 
Jinsun said:
No, don't take strong Ai's like anastrazole as you will lower your e2 to much (if it's as you say in the middle) and you wont lower shbg that much. You need something that lowers shbg a lot but doesn't touch E2 that much.

I would go for arimistane, secondly to proviron and thirdly aromasin. Arimistane is great at lowering shbg, hence why it's used, or rather was used, in a lot of test boosters. Just don't go over 75 - 100mg ed as your joints will hurt even more.

If you are concerned with joints just go for viron or aromasin... and don't use letro or arimidex (anastrazole) as they would lower e2 to much.

And no, definetly don't pin test and don't use clomid. Clomid is for raising TT and 300mg's test is a cycle. If you want to go on a cycle, which I am kinda sensing here a bit, then that's a nother discussions altogether...
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My concern regarding TRT, is once it shuts me down, I need a high enough dose to compensate and give me elevated levels over what I had originally. Otherwise, I won't gain any ground.
 
The Stig said:
My concern regarding TRT, is once it shuts me down, I need a high enough dose to compensate and give me elevated levels over what I had originally. Otherwise, I won't gain any ground.
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What are you dreaming about?! What trt?? Trt is for when you have low test levels, not normal levels. Free test is not a fixed number like total test is. If your free t is low atm, it doesn't need to be tomorrow. Your TT numbers are normal, taking exogenous T would shut you down just to have a tad higher or the same TT numbers. It's TRT not a cycle. Why would you want to go on trt with normal test levels? And again, free T is not fixed number. Once you lower that shbg, your free T number will skyrocket.

If you want to go on cycle - go on cycle. But you can't go on a permanent "trt" cycle, that is not healthy at all. With shbg inhibitors your free T will go above labs range, as is normal for test boosters.

That's all there is to say. Now stop yaping stupid chit and buy what I said in my previous post (or something in those lines) and stop wasting our time here with nonsense.
 
Jinsun said:
What are you dreaming about?! What trt?? Trt is for when you have low test levels, not normal levels. Free test is not a fixed number like total test is. If your free t is low atm, it doesn't need to be tomorrow. Your TT numbers are normal, taking exogenous T would shut you down just to have a tad higher or the same TT numbers. It's TRT not a cycle. Why would you want to go on trt with normal test levels? And again, free T is not fixed number. Once you lower that shbg, your free T number will skyrocket.

If you want to go on cycle - go on cycle. But you can't go on a permanent "trt" cycle, that is not healthy at all. With shbg inhibitors your free T will go above labs range, as is normal for test boosters.

That's all there is to say. Now stop yaping stupid chit and buy what I said in my previous post (or something in those lines) and stop wasting our time here with nonsense.
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No one put a gun to your head to read it and reply.
 
Jinsun said:
What are you dreaming about?! What trt?? Trt is for when you have low test levels, not normal levels. Free test is not a fixed number like total test is. If your free t is low atm, it doesn't need to be tomorrow. Your TT numbers are normal, taking exogenous T would shut you down just to have a tad higher or the same TT numbers. It's TRT not a cycle. Why would you want to go on trt with normal test levels? And again, free T is not fixed number. Once you lower that shbg, your free T number will skyrocket.

If you want to go on cycle - go on cycle. But you can't go on a permanent "trt" cycle, that is not healthy at all. With shbg inhibitors your free T will go above labs range, as is normal for test boosters.

That's all there is to say. Now stop yaping stupid chit and buy what I said in my previous post (or something in those lines) and stop wasting our time here with nonsense.
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No one put a gun to your head to read it and reply.
CroLifter said:
We are just trying to tell you that you dont need trt and that you will most likely regret the decision to shut yourself down with perfect hormone production.
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I understand and appreciate that. I just didn't see the need for someone else's attitude.
 
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Are you overweight? Have you taken antibiotics in the past? As CroLifter said, this is likely a gut/inflammation issues which is causing your liver to overproduce SHBG. I recommend working with a Naturopath/Functional Medicine doctor and evaluate your microbiome. Genova Comprehensive Digestive Stool Analysis is an excellent test.
 
PhoenixGamer said:
Are you overweight? Have you taken antibiotics in the past? As CroLifter said, this is likely a gut/inflammation issues which is causing your liver to overproduce SHBG. I recommend working with a Naturopath/Functional Medicine doctor and evaluate your microbiome. Genova Comprehensive Digestive Stool Analysis is an excellent test.
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No, I stay very lean. There is a chance that my diet, which typically lacks much carbs, isn't helping the situation.
 
Low carb diets are known to cause high SHBG...

Are you a heavy drinker?

I would consider a liver detox
 
I take liver detox supplements year around sny my SHBG is always very low. Coincidence, maybe...but I dont know
 
I take Liv. 52 by Himalaya year around
 
Playing devil's advocate Proviron and masteron. Will lower it . Your on an anabolic fourm odds are you are going to try pinning anyway . Yes it's better not to. In Canada it's legal so do what you want.
 
Glockguy706 said:
Playing devil's advocate Proviron and masteron. Will lower it . Your on an anabolic fourm odds are you are going to try pinning anyway . Yes it's better not to. In Canada it's legal so do what you want.
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Masteron is going to shut him down. Proviron tbh i am not sure if he were to use a low dose but i still wouldnt.
 
Have a listen to this guy. He is in Canada too. Discusses SHBG and inflamation and how to treat it.

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