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pheraplex vs epistane

rocketman123

rocketman123

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Hey guys, I'm getting a stack for my dad for christmas. He is 55 and works out everyday. I helped him change his diet and brought him into the 21st century in terms of supplementation. I will be starting to cut, for a show in may, Jan 1 and I am getting my dad into the gym so he can have some real equipment instead of his crappy bench and freeweights at home. He has been talking about doing a cutting style stack so i did research and found that Tren (19-Norandrosta 4,9 diene- 3,17 dione) would probably be the way to go. I am looking for another good PH to stack with it. Guys at my gym all have taken a pheraplex and tren stack and they all gained at least 8lbs lean and lost a good amount of bodyfat. Now, i have been reading about how epistane is pretty good for cutting as well. I am trying to decide between pheraplex or epistane. any suggestions??
 
My dad's stats are 250lbs probably 20-25% bodyfat, 5'9", 1g/lb of protein about, enough carbs (i'm making him quit eating so much dessert when he goes on the stack lol), he trains on a 5 day on, 2 day off workout plan 1 main bodypart and sometimes 1 small bodypart per day for 1 hr. no cardio yet (will start that when on cycle)
 
I'd use epi before phera on a cut. Epi is nice and dry, sides are very minimal usually. Phera can be quite wet, which makes it a good bulker.
 
bigpapa said:
um..i would have your dad talk to his doctor first because of his age.
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what would issues having to do with his age? I have been looking for an anti aging doctor who could set him up on testosterone and GH replacement which a lot of people his age are doing so isnt this just a more potent form of testosterone replacement? (even though the stack is only a month long?) I have a pretty extensive post cycle lined out for him as well
 
RedwolfWV said:
I'd use epi before phera on a cut. Epi is nice and dry, sides are very minimal usually. Phera can be quite wet, which makes it a good bulker.
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oh ok. yeah thats what i have been reading. that also explains why people say you gain more on phera: most likely from water? sounds good. I will tell him this and have him decide. thanks for the help!
 
my dad was asking if he could take celebrex while on this stack. what would be the side effects of that and would it be possible or would you not advise it? He has bad knees and arthritis in his back which hurts him sometimes when he works out. he says he can get away with one a week. would that be possible?
 
tell your dad to just get testosterone replacement therapy going then cheat the system and get more test to shoot. Alot safer for his age.
 
If Your Old Man Is Having Knee Problems,i Would Stay Away From Epi/tren As They Tend To Dry Out The Joints. This Stack Would Only Exaserbate His Excisting Problem.
 
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