Yeah the SR9009 is basically useless anyway. Their selling point is that transdermal will help you absorb more. In my opinion still not enough to actually do anything. I wouldn’t use it without 4andro or Epi andro or better yet both. Clomid/nolva/torem pct. your choice. I like to add in Reduce XT, M test and X gels to retain gains. Haven’t used rad140 personally but I heard the lethargy can be brutal. IMO better options out there for similar price. Look at prohormones on predator nutrition